Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum"Pete Buttigieg is the embodiment of white privilege - and black voters know it"
One of my favorite church deacons at a ministry I attended in Boynton Beach, Florida, decided one Sunday that he would run for mayor. Deac, as we all affectionately referred to him, had already served many years as vice-mayor and city commissioner, so it was no surprise when he won the mayorship.
Deac was best known for singing old gospel songs with the growl of a blues singer and the whoop of a baptist preacher. To me, he was far more a beloved, black church dignitary than he was a politician. Nevertheless, my church deacon is more qualified to serve as president of the United States than former mayor Pete Buttigieg.
Political pundits and media outlets are scrambling to try to understand how it is that Buttigieg could have 0% support among black primary voters. I would offer the following:
First, ask any black person across the south and theyll likely say the same thing: Buttigieg has less experience in office than our local church deacons - yet he is being propped up to be the next president , above equally educated and far more qualified politicians such as Kamala Harris and Cory Booker....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/11/pete-buttigieg-black-americans-democrats
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,160 posts)I am not surprised
He also rules out supporting Warren
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/epmm8z/benjamin_dixon_official_endorses_bernie_sanders/
How much white privlege does a gay white man who served in the armed forces have Mr. Dixon, or are you conveniently ignoring the gay bigotry that very much exits in the US today?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,160 posts)and the fact that he brings it up that it isnt because he is gay, and insinuates that African Americans are falsely accused of bigotry against gays, tells me Mr. Dixon himself ha a problem with gays
How would he feel if his OpEd replaced the words Gay with African American. Would he feel the same way
Why bring up that Pete is gay in the OpEd, if that isnt an issue with Mr. Dixon, and then imply that Pete is racist
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I have lived along with blacks and whites my entire life - if anything, Id say the whites have a slight edge on the homophobia. Or maybe theyre just more verbal about their dislike.
I find this offensive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)Privilege reflects the disproportionate opportunities given him and the sense of entitlement that says, "Sure, I can win this thing with very little experience."
Of course, If he shows he CAN win this thing, then that's another matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,160 posts)that Pete is a racist
I think Mr Dixon has some issues himself
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,160 posts)at personally attacking Pete, with some pretty nasty and unnecessary insults
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)If he's white, he has white privilege. Being gay does not erase his white privilege.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,160 posts)up Pete being gay? Why is that necessary?
Because he assumes he will be accused of gay bigotry
I am not surprised he is a Sanders supporter, just based on his divisive rhetoric
Finally with all the other divisive nonsense thrown in, he says Pete has no experience, and criticizes Petes positions on the issues such as healthcare, etc
Too bad he didnt start with the no experience, and differences on the issues, which would have given credibility to his OpEd, but choose instead to personally attack Pete
Typical of what I see from some supporters associated with that campaign
Cornell West comes to mind, and his attacks against President Obama
From my perspective, the minute one starts to personally attack someone, instead of focusing on the issues, you lose the argument
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,919 posts)I don't think you understand the concept. I can give you some good books to read if you want to learn more.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)Geesh! I despise people with no experience in politics giving their opinion as gospel.
It especially irks me with that statement about Buttigieg being propped up. Propped up by what?
Another wanna be pundit. Reminds me of old men in a bar spouting off their opinions. Even young whippersnappers who think they got it alllll figured out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,919 posts)Are you denying it exists or that someone Pete, a white guy, doesn't have it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)Or better yet how much does Sanders have? Seems to me that applying one standard should be applied the same to everyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,919 posts)Again, seriously, I can point you to a few books, since you seem to think a) it's like a percentage meter type thing and b) one cannot have privilege if they lack it in another area. Both of those things are not accurate.
Perhaps people feel that one of the two realizes he has privilege more than the other. Perhaps people feel that one of the two is trying to realize and deal with and stop that privilege in society.
But, yeah, both Bernie and Pete have white privilege. Never would say they don't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,330 posts)Bloomberg's reply to Trump
Link to tweet
now Dixon is starting up again and attacking Klobuchar as a racist
pure scorched earth attacks from a certain side of the far left twittersphere/blogosphere/podosphere
it is ripping our party apart and is only going to get worse
here is Dixon on the booing of Hillary, which he loved
https://podbay.fm/podcast/954648487/e/1580740425
Show notes
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Episode 802 |
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Rashida Tlaib is a badass -- point blank period. She booed Hillary Clinton over the weekend, and despite all the cries about "civility," Tlaib had every reason to boo Clinton. Here's why.
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Listen to this compilation of Biden in debates versus Trump in his debates. It's shaping up to be a political blood bath.
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Amy Klobuchar has serious baggage with this case of a wrongfully convicted Black man. Her interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News should end her career.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)how did they do?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)"They need to acknowledge and deal with it and move on"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quackers
(2,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,919 posts)Would have thought liberals would have a better grasp on it, but, you know, live and learn.
If you really want to gain an understanding, I would recommend:
White Like Me by Tim Wise
So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo
White Fragility by Robin Diangelo
Between the World and Me by Ta Nehisi Coates
How to Be Less Stupid About Race by Crystal Fleming
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided