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brooklynite

(95,016 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:14 PM Apr 2019

What should Joe Biden do at this point?


15 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Deny that the events took place
0 (0%)
Dispute that the women were actually bothered
0 (0%)
Acknowledge that the women were bothered and apologize
13 (87%)
Say nothing
2 (13%)
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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What should Joe Biden do at this point? (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
The World Has Changed & Biden Will Need to Change With It, If He Chooses to Run dlk Apr 2019 #1
If there is something I would change about America IluvPitties Apr 2019 #12
The Idea of Personal Space Needs to Taken in Context with the High Numbers of Child Abuse and... dlk Apr 2019 #20
In other words, we are a sick society. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #22
Like it or Not, Too Many Things Get Swept Under the Rug dlk Apr 2019 #25
He already acknowledged and apologized. ucrdem Apr 2019 #2
Um, you're aware that more women HAVE come forward (this evening?) brooklynite Apr 2019 #6
Yes, and I don't doubt there are more queued up. ucrdem Apr 2019 #7
Agree Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #14
I want him to run, because I think he's the best choice to fix the damage done by Trump LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #3
You're absolutely right.. it's catty, self serving, whinnie, you name it... and I'm a women Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #30
For women as a group? Kentonio Apr 2019 #19
Joe Biden did nothing wrong. Joe Biden has nothing to apologize for. democratisphere Apr 2019 #4
Joe Biden.... quickesst Apr 2019 #5
+1 ucrdem Apr 2019 #8
Right back at ya! quickesst Apr 2019 #9
Spot on. cwydro Apr 2019 #21
Bag. mahina Apr 2019 #10
not much more he can do qazplm135 Apr 2019 #11
I've said elsewhere flotsam Apr 2019 #13
+1000. Seems to be strengthening him not weakening him Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #16
I think the best advice to Joe is "say nothing" Lucid Dreamer Apr 2019 #17
Say nothing... scardycat Apr 2019 #18
Other. He should announce his candidacy and begin the campaign. MineralMan Apr 2019 #23
I like this statement by Joe Biden Gothmog Apr 2019 #24
Perfect sfwriter Apr 2019 #28
Why should he say anything? sfwriter Apr 2019 #26
Are you aware that he's already spoken? brooklynite Apr 2019 #27
I was not. sfwriter Apr 2019 #29
I witnessed this behavior in the classroom jberryhill Apr 2019 #31
Acknowledge and apologize. It's the least *and* most he should do. DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #32
Keep on Trucking!! at140 Apr 2019 #33
 

dlk

(11,606 posts)
1. The World Has Changed & Biden Will Need to Change With It, If He Chooses to Run
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:26 PM
Apr 2019

Cultural norms have evolved and anyone in today’s political arena will need to evolve with it. Otherwise, they will be left behind by voters who will look elsewhere for leadership. Women have decided to speak up and speak out about unwelcome physical touch and contact, no matter the intentions of the person doing the touching. Respecting another’s personal space is important. One professional who worked with my son (who is on the autism spectrum) taught my son to respect a three feet circle of personal space around other people. It has worked very well for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
12. If there is something I would change about America
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:40 AM
Apr 2019

is this insane obsession with personal space and this readiness that so many people have to be offended.

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dlk

(11,606 posts)
20. The Idea of Personal Space Needs to Taken in Context with the High Numbers of Child Abuse and...
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:39 PM
Apr 2019

assault, sexual and otherwise in the US. Currently, child abuse is the largest public health crisis in this country. Add to that the number of children and adults traumatized by almost daily mass shootings, and those with PTSD from other traumas. Just those numbers alone make the cultural shift to respect others' personal space make much more sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
22. In other words, we are a sick society.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dlk

(11,606 posts)
25. Like it or Not, Too Many Things Get Swept Under the Rug
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. He already acknowledged and apologized.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:31 PM
Apr 2019

Yes it was done by a spokesperson. No it was not accompanied by a mariachi band or personal voice message from Joe. I don't think he should do anything more. If more women come forward, he can issue more statements. He doesn't need to go on TV and talk about this or any other lady's claim and I hope he doesn't. If they feel they were wronged they can sue. I imagine one way or another they will anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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brooklynite

(95,016 posts)
6. Um, you're aware that more women HAVE come forward (this evening?)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:47 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
7. Yes, and I don't doubt there are more queued up.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:51 PM
Apr 2019

Maybe dozens, who knows. He should issue a polite apology through a spokesperson saying the same thing to each one: he doesn't remember the incident the way they do, but he's sorry they experienced it the way they say. Period.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
3. I want him to run, because I think he's the best choice to fix the damage done by Trump
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:36 PM
Apr 2019

If he is forced out over stuff like this, people deserve what they get.

I have lost a lot of respect for women as a group today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,823 posts)
15. You're absolutely right.. it's catty, self serving, whinnie, you name it... and I'm a women
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 02:03 AM
Apr 2019

I have 2 words these women GROW UP!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #15)

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
19. For women as a group?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 04:34 AM
Apr 2019

What the actual fuck?

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
4. Joe Biden did nothing wrong. Joe Biden has nothing to apologize for.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:39 PM
Apr 2019

I'm sure Joe Biden has already toned down his friendly, comforting, sympathetic, empathetic behavior so as not to attract anymore critics or perpetrators.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
5. Joe Biden....
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:43 PM
Apr 2019

..... should announce his candidacy, secure the nomination, and become the next president of the United States.

The dog and pony show currently under way will not be a factor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mahina

(17,774 posts)
10. Bag.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:11 AM
Apr 2019

I love him, though how he handled the Anita Hill allegations was bananas, when considered in light of the times and expectations I can understand sort of.

I love him, though the connection to the banks in Delaware is uncomfortable for me.

I’m fond of him personally. I still think he should bag. He was a good V P.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
11. not much more he can do
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:31 AM
Apr 2019

more folks are going to leak out. I predict at least another 10.
None of them will present him touching them in an inappropriate way or place, just that they felt "uncomfortable."
The sheer number will magnify and kill his chances.

Quite frankly, I think he's getting screwed and unfairly attacked but I'm not sure there is anything he can do. He can't defend himself, because then he's attacking the women. If he admits and apologizes then he validates his wrongdoing and he's done then too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
13. I've said elsewhere
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:12 AM
Apr 2019

the response to people "made uncomfortable" is #FOWDC" (Fuck off! We don't care!). This stinks just like "The Frankening" and we should refuse to play.

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Thekaspervote

(32,823 posts)
16. +1000. Seems to be strengthening him not weakening him
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 02:05 AM
Apr 2019

People are fed up with this kind of crap

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Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
17. I think the best advice to Joe is "say nothing"
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 02:41 AM
Apr 2019

If he tries to explain there will be more criticism if just one syllable is out of place. It goes on forever

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scardycat

(169 posts)
18. Say nothing...
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 03:00 AM
Apr 2019

he already apologized..I think it is Bernie people doing this.. I hope not though.

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MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
23. Other. He should announce his candidacy and begin the campaign.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:01 PM
Apr 2019

That's what I'd do if I were him.

Just say Fuck It! and go for it.

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Gothmog

(145,972 posts)
24. I like this statement by Joe Biden
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 04:02 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
28. Perfect
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:27 PM
Apr 2019

That’s all he should say

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sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
26. Why should he say anything?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:26 PM
Apr 2019

He hasn’t announced yet.

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brooklynite

(95,016 posts)
27. Are you aware that he's already spoken?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:27 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
29. I was not.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:29 PM
Apr 2019

I just saw it. It’s perfect.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. I witnessed this behavior in the classroom
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:33 PM
Apr 2019

And it did bother some of the students.

I have spoken with two of them about his statement, and they are fine with it, so I don’t see why I shouldn’t be.

I lean Warren, but Biden has acknowledged his historical issues with personal space, which is huge because as good as he is at many things, he’s really not the most introspective person you’ll ever meet.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
32. Acknowledge and apologize. It's the least *and* most he should do.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:35 PM
Apr 2019

This is nutty (the situation, not your thread/poll brooklynite).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

at140

(6,110 posts)
33. Keep on Trucking!!
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:48 PM
Apr 2019

Joe never asked the women to his hotel room.
And he never dropped his pants in front of those women and asked them to kiss it.
And he never raped anyone.
And he never grabbed pussy like Drumpf.

This is making mountain out of a mole hill.
Probably engineered by his competition.

Run Joe Run!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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