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trueblue2007

(17,138 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:20 PM Feb 2020

BS man -- Jeff Weaver on MSNBC right now. I TURNED OFF THAT LYING PIECE of you know what

I can't stand Jeff Weaver or Nina Turner. As far as I am concerned, they are liars. They both lied and their destructive comments really hurt Hillary. Weaver will lie about ALL the other Dems in the primary now and I will NEVER listen to him.
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BS, you have some really awful people in your campaign staff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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BS man -- Jeff Weaver on MSNBC right now. I TURNED OFF THAT LYING PIECE of you know what (Original Post) trueblue2007 Feb 2020 OP
I don't even like looking at Jeff Weaver. LisaM Feb 2020 #1
I'm pleased that they are attacking both Pete and Bloomberg. They are getting a twofer with this UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #2
Perhaps the Sanders campaign should put their attacks into a TV ad denem Feb 2020 #6
They possibly need Skidmore Feb 2020 #14
... Cha Feb 2020 #16
K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #3
Where are all the other surrogates for the other campaigns? Why are only Sanders people on UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #4
To complain that the media shuts them out? LisaM Feb 2020 #5
The reporters on MSNBC and CNN are surrogates for the other campaigns. DanTex Feb 2020 #7
Ridiculous. Sounds like someone else who disparages the media redstateblues Feb 2020 #10
It's true though. Here's another good one. DanTex Feb 2020 #11
Michael Tracey is a LWNJ CT bullshitter who is featured on Breitbart ffs Celerity Feb 2020 #31
Umm, OK, but did you see the clip with the "body language expert"? DanTex Feb 2020 #32
speaking as a lesbian of colour, Joy Reid is a homophobic hack who should have been sacked Celerity Feb 2020 #34
Because you say so? ehrnst Feb 2020 #19
lol Cha Feb 2020 #40
Do you hear yourself? Squinch Feb 2020 #35
Did you hear Chris Matthews talking about hangings in Central Park? DanTex Feb 2020 #37
Red herring... has nothing to do with or supports your ehrnst Feb 2020 #41
Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #8
I do declare... billpolonsky Feb 2020 #9
Bernie is past his time katmondoo Feb 2020 #15
Billionaire Ran Government DanieRains Feb 2020 #28
You mean like Sanders staffers and canvassers chanting "fuck Warren! Fuck Biden!!" in public? ehrnst Feb 2020 #18
Have Turner and Sirota denounced their Stein votes? Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #20
Turner lived/lives in NY. She voted that way because she scipan Feb 2020 #44
Nina Turner: Joe Biden Is Pimpin' Proximity To Obama, Not Earning Black Vote Like Bernie Scurrilous Feb 2020 #36
You'll Feel Better Once They Become White House Employees, I Promise corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #12
Will most of his WH staff quit like the founding Our Revolution staff did ehrnst Feb 2020 #17
Ancient History corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #42
Nice attempt at a redirect... but actually, the Our Revolution financial setup is recent news... ehrnst Feb 2020 #43
Better is relative. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #22
Kick Cha Feb 2020 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #21
Well you can tell when they are lying...as their lips are moving...but doctored videos...lying about Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #27
Nina Turner... ehrnst Feb 2020 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #25
See, I actually listened to the She the People video. ehrnst Feb 2020 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #29
No, your description is wrong. As the video shows. ehrnst Feb 2020 #30
Jeff Weaver will be a permanent fixture in a Bernie administration. oasis Feb 2020 #33
I didn't watch the debate but there was a clp underthematrix Feb 2020 #38
They are toads, that is what BS hires. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #39
 

LisaM

(27,762 posts)
1. I don't even like looking at Jeff Weaver.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020

Something about his appearance just irks me, I don't know why!

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
2. I'm pleased that they are attacking both Pete and Bloomberg. They are getting a twofer with this
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020

donor billionaire and he's a billionaire bullshit.

This will backfire badly.

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Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
6. Perhaps the Sanders campaign should put their attacks into a TV ad
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

to see if Mike cops it sweet

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
14. They possibly need
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:07 PM
Feb 2020

more $27 donors.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. Where are all the other surrogates for the other campaigns? Why are only Sanders people on
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

MSNBC each fucking hour?

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LisaM

(27,762 posts)
5. To complain that the media shuts them out?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:26 PM
Feb 2020

It was the same last time, I could probably have named ten people who worked for Sanders or were out there representing him.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. The reporters on MSNBC and CNN are surrogates for the other campaigns.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
10. Ridiculous. Sounds like someone else who disparages the media
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

All the time.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
11. It's true though. Here's another good one.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:57 PM
Feb 2020

In theory, neither Joy Reid nor the "body language expert" are surrogates for anyone, but....



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Undecided
 

Celerity

(42,666 posts)
31. Michael Tracey is a LWNJ CT bullshitter who is featured on Breitbart ffs
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:48 PM
Feb 2020






Exclusive– Michael Tracey: Democrat Primary Will Appear ‘Rigged’ if Pete Buttigieg Wins New Hampshire

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/09/exclusive-michael-tracey-buttigieg-nh/


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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
32. Umm, OK, but did you see the clip with the "body language expert"?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

Because it was hilarious.

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Celerity

(42,666 posts)
34. speaking as a lesbian of colour, Joy Reid is a homophobic hack who should have been sacked
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:56 PM
Feb 2020

when she lied about her blog being hacked to try to save her arse from those gay bash posts

so I guess we do have a dislike of her in common at least

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Because you say so?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

But I'll bite... got any evidence to back up that claim?

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Squinch

(50,774 posts)
35. Do you hear yourself?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
37. Did you hear Chris Matthews talking about hangings in Central Park?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
41. Red herring... has nothing to do with or supports your
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:55 AM
Feb 2020

conspiracy theory about MSNBC or CNN being "surrogates for other candidates."

Just because commondreams, Jacobin and The Intercept are clearly pushing Bernie doesn't mean that the actual non-partisan media journalists that are subject to editorial journalistic standards on MSNBC or CNN are pushing other candidates. I mean, if anything Chris Hayes barely hides his support of Sanders...

That's pretty much what FoxNews viewers say about any media that isn't FoxNews being just as far to the left as FoxNews is to the right, and surrogates for any Trump opponent.



But do go on...

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billpolonsky

(270 posts)
9. I do declare...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:39 PM
Feb 2020

If we are going to re run how Nasty ole Bernie blew it for poor dear Hillary , and gives yall the vapors, yet again I think I may vomit.

Calling a campain liars and pieces of shit is real quality political discourse.



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Undecided
 

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
15. Bernie is past his time
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
28. Billionaire Ran Government
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

Is past its time.

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. You mean like Sanders staffers and canvassers chanting "fuck Warren! Fuck Biden!!" in public?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

That kind of discourse?

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Happy Hoosier

(7,081 posts)
20. Have Turner and Sirota denounced their Stein votes?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

No?

Thought not.

But hey, keep supporting these foul people. Sanders' refusal to address this just underlines his poor judgement, IMO.

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scipan

(2,296 posts)
44. Turner lived/lives in NY. She voted that way because she
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

Knew it wouldn't affect the winner.
You can argue that was wrong but at least get the context right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
36. Nina Turner: Joe Biden Is Pimpin' Proximity To Obama, Not Earning Black Vote Like Bernie
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:03 PM
Feb 2020

Yeah...defend her.

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
12. You'll Feel Better Once They Become White House Employees, I Promise
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. Will most of his WH staff quit like the founding Our Revolution staff did
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020

when they found out that Bernie broke his promise that Weaver wouldn't be involved...and then found out Weaver set up OR to take dark money?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/us/politics/bernie-sanders-our-revolution-group.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
43. Nice attempt at a redirect... but actually, the Our Revolution financial setup is recent news...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020
Common Cause Files Complaint Against Pro-Bernie Sanders Group Our Revolution for Violating Soft Money Ban


Under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, an entity directly or indirectly established by a federal candidate or officeholder is not allowed to “solicit, receive, direct, transfer, or spend funds in connection with an election for Federal office” unless the “funds are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements” of federal law.

According to Our Revolution’s tax returns showing contribution amounts but not contributor names, data compiled and first reported by the Associated Press, from 2016 to 2018 Our Revolution raised almost $1 million dollars from contributors who gave in excess of the applicable $5,000 contribution limit, including multiple contributions of between $100,000 and $300,000. Our Revolution has not disclosed any of its contributors to the FEC, as required by federal campaign finance law.

“Americans expect and deserve to have our campaign finance laws enforced and they expect political organizations to abide by the law, regardless of their political views,” said Paul Seamus Ryan, Common Cause vice president for policy and litigation. “The facts surrounding Our Revolution, including its founding by Sen. Sanders, its receipt of six-figure contributions, its failure to disclose donors to the FEC, and its political spending in Iowa and elsewhere, point to a clear violation of the federal soft money ban. Common Cause is a nonpartisan organization and we work to hold power accountable regardless of party affiliation or policy positions. It is critically important that the soft money ban be enforced, or outside groups founded by candidates will become a commonplace means to evade contribution limits and disclosure requirements.”

You're welcome.

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Happy Hoosier

(7,081 posts)
22. Better is relative.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020

If Sanders is nominated and wins, I will be happy. But IMO, Sanders will have a very rocky Presidency because he hires shitty people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
23. Well you can tell when they are lying...as their lips are moving...but doctored videos...lying about
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

other candidates...you name it this group has done it...going to hurt Sanders in the end.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #23)

Response to ehrnst (Reply #24)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
26. See, I actually listened to the She the People video.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020

The audience reacted vocally when he was asked a second time to answer the question about what he would do about white supremacy, and he evaded with "I marched with MLK. I endorsed Jessie Jackson for president in 1988."

As if that would have been tolerated as anything but "some of my best friends are black!" from any of the other candidates - who which, BTW actually showed the respect of preparing for questions that the audience would likely be asking of them.

Surprised you didn't watch the video from the forum, but are commenting on how the media got it wrong.

And then I listened to Nina's words before commenting on them.

So, yes, Nina was not being honest when she smeared those WOC who held his feet to the fire for "booing marching with MLK."

You're welcome.



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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
30. No, your description is wrong. As the video shows.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

Perhaps it's been awhile since you saw it, and forgot.

Sayu Bhojwani, founder and president of New American Leaders, an organization that helps first- and second-generation Americans seek elected office, asked Sanders, “What do you believe is the federal government’s role to fight against the rise of white nationalism and white terrorist acts, and how do you plan to lead on that in your first year as president?” Citing the recent string of Louisiana church fires, Bhojwani talked about the need to address “terrorist attacks by white men to enact fear upon people of color.”

Sanders gave a general response referring to Trump and demagoguery, but he went back to his standard lines about universal programs and comprehensive immigration reform, seemingly missing the purpose of the question. When Allison followed up, explaining that the question was about white supremacist violence, Sanders referenced his attendance at the March on Washington in the 1960s and his support for Jesse Jackson during the 1988 presidential campaign. It was clear the audience did not appreciate his deflection, as some in the audience booed and others groaned.


https://rewire.news/article/2019/04/30/heres-how-bernie-sanders-missed-the-mark-at-she-the-people-forum/

You histility here has been noted.

You certainly seem to be here to fight. Enjoy your stay.



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oasis

(49,152 posts)
33. Jeff Weaver will be a permanent fixture in a Bernie administration.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

Count on it.

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underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
38. I didn't watch the debate but there was a clp
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders trying his hand at #ProjectiveLying In response to Joe Biden's healthcare policy position, Bernie said his proposal would cost over 50 trillion dollars over the next decade.

Of course this is false but the media did not address it. No one wants #TraitorTrump re-elected more than our media. Why? Because people are NOT smart enough to change the channel. They seem to think being woke is about giving attention to the thing they supposedly don't want.

We may doomed by our own stupidity and immaturity.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
39. They are toads, that is what BS hires.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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