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Richluu

(80 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:13 AM Feb 2020

Breaking News on Rachel Maddow: Iowa Caucus Phone Jamming

In Iowa on caucus night, Trumpers organized to jam our phone lines to make the backup plan for app failure, jam. That's why caucus leaders couldn't get through.

Rachel showed pictures of their messaging encouraging each other to keep calling because it was working and the caucus people couldn't get through. When the app failed, Dem leaders had posted the call number online. I wonder who started it, and if it was a GOP professional.

Several years ago in NH, the GOP hired an answering service to jam lines for rides to the polls to help in Sinunu's election. People went to jail for that.

Regarding this, Chuck Schumer said:
(on Maddow) Remember that justice will flow like a mighty river, and the arc of history bends toward justice; don't give up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Breaking News on Rachel Maddow: Iowa Caucus Phone Jamming (Original Post) Richluu Feb 2020 OP
KR! Cha Feb 2020 #1
They do this frequently, in many locations. SharonAnn Feb 2020 #17
Can't hack a pencil. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #2
We did have a paper trail. Richluu Feb 2020 #15
Not sealed Richluu Feb 2020 #16
Rachel's show repeats at 9 pac. Right now in fact. oasis Feb 2020 #3
Kick oasis Feb 2020 #4
There won't be any "flowing" with a piece of shit like Barr as AG FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #5
This was out earlier today relayerbob Feb 2020 #6
DNC Chair, Tom Perez up next for Rachel interview. Earlier today Perez oasis Feb 2020 #7
Why caucus leaders couldn't get through? billpolonsky Feb 2020 #8
Why the hell did they post it online? tinrobot Feb 2020 #9
I suspect that whoever is behind this weren't just randomly checking online. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #12
Is it possible that the trollish behavior originated from the littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #14
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #10
Each precinct should have had sealed envelopes, with certain assigned numbers & userids/passkeys. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #11
Sadly, this is very true. Dem2theMax Feb 2020 #13
Actually... BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #19
Just another reason Iowa results can't be trusted. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #18
 

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
17. They do this frequently, in many locations.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:07 PM
Feb 2020

Even in our small county they tried to keep Dem Party phone occupied on Election Day 10 years ago so people couldn’t call in for info, rides, etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
2. Can't hack a pencil.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020

Paper ballots. We KNOW how to do this. No apps. No computers. We’ve got to get over the need for immediate results. We’ve got to get this right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Richluu

(80 posts)
15. We did have a paper trail.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:06 AM
Feb 2020

For the first time ever, we had candidate preference cards. We wrote down our candidate for the first and second iteration (count). These were collected. That's what the verification will use.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Richluu

(80 posts)
16. Not sealed
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

The preference cards were just that--cards. No need to seal them because everyone knows who you're supporting. You're standing in that candidate's group. They count you, then collect cards as verification. Tom Perez wants to use those in the review.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,401 posts)
3. Rachel's show repeats at 9 pac. Right now in fact.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:57 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
5. There won't be any "flowing" with a piece of shit like Barr as AG
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020

He's already suppressed every investigation into MF45 and republicons, but more than willing to crucify any democrat

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

relayerbob

(6,553 posts)
6. This was out earlier today
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:21 AM
Feb 2020

4chan was one of the main attack bases

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oasis

(49,401 posts)
7. DNC Chair, Tom Perez up next for Rachel interview. Earlier today Perez
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:22 AM
Feb 2020

called for a re-canvassing of the Iowa results.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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billpolonsky

(270 posts)
8. Why caucus leaders couldn't get through?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:27 AM
Feb 2020

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tinrobot

(10,914 posts)
9. Why the hell did they post it online?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:08 AM
Feb 2020

There is nobody to blame for this but the people in Iowa who made that dumb decision.

If you post a number like that, the trolls will find it. They did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
12. I suspect that whoever is behind this weren't just randomly checking online.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:06 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

littlemissmartypants

(22,775 posts)
14. Is it possible that the trollish behavior originated from the
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020

Perpetrators of the jamming calls? Once one person shared it, it was "out there" to be shared freely. Nothing stopping anyone from sharing it after that. There definitely needs to be a less, vulnerable to exploitation, system.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
11. Each precinct should have had sealed envelopes, with certain assigned numbers & userids/passkeys.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:52 AM
Feb 2020

.

These should have only been opened in the event of a problem, and multiple dial-in numbers used that are assigned to only certain specific precincts, with a single primary and a contingent number. If someone opened an envelope and took a picture and posted it, that photo would have identified the location or set of precincts involved, and it would have only compromised just one primary and one alternate number, only impacting a subset of precincts.

There should have been unique userids and passkeys for each precinct to help prevent phone imposters.

After all these years, you'd think they'd have their shit together. It's not rocket science.

.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Dem2theMax

(9,653 posts)
13. Sadly, this is very true.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:09 AM
Feb 2020

But we are Democrats and we don't think in evil ways.
It's not in our DNA to behave the way Republicans behave.

Unfortunately, we are going to have to learn to play dirty and be 20 steps ahead of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
19. Actually...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:19 PM
Feb 2020

The DNC runs a “red team” that looks for ways to disrupt caucuses and primaries. In this case - they obviously didn’t predict just how corrupt Trump supporters really are.

One thing is sure in my mind, we gotta get our shit together if we’re going to beat Trump and his flying monkeys.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
18. Just another reason Iowa results can't be trusted.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:15 PM
Feb 2020

There are probably a dozen ways to avoid this kind of rat fucking. Sadly Iowa ran a flawed caucus that was open to all sorts of errors. I wonder if a well run primary is a more secure and reliable process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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