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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 05:46 AM Feb 2020

Did the Tlaib incident effect your opinion of Bernie?


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No. I already didn't like him and still dont.
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No. I already liked him and still do.
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Yes, I wasnt a supporter and now I am.
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Did the Tlaib incident effect your opinion of Bernie? (Original Post) Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 OP
sanders cannot get nomination without support from former Clinton voters Gothmog Feb 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #5
It certainly squirecam Feb 2020 #37
So why are you former "Clinton voters" always threatening that you won't support the nominee brutus smith Feb 2020 #2
+1 Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #4
+2 InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #6
ROFLMAO, is that a joke?!?! Amimnoch Feb 2020 #9
Sound familiar? Zoonart Feb 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #13
Links to prove that HRC supporters are making such threats? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #20
She's still going to vote for Sanders if he's the nominee. And since Sanders will be leaving the highplainsdem Feb 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #23
Your earlier post did NOT include the fact she'd said she'd vote for Sanders against Trump. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #28
I asked for links -- plural -- because you said "they" were making threats. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #33
Didn't think you could back up your claim. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #34
That person doesn't say they're going to leave the party bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #57
Gotta admire the quality of those mental gymnastics. Lancero Feb 2020 #54
Granted, that's one person. Whereas polling shows this about Sanders supporters... ehrnst Feb 2020 #61
Where? MH1 Feb 2020 #26
They said cannot get the NOMINATION without help from Clinton voters. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #29
Isn't everybody on DU a former Clinton voter? lapucelle Feb 2020 #35
I think the poster meant Clinton primary voters democrattotheend Feb 2020 #58
Thread win!!!! DanTex Feb 2020 #43
Because ..... He. Stinks !!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2020 #45
I don't much care for him Codeine Feb 2020 #47
Care to link where any of us said that? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #50
Care to back that up with some sources? ehrnst Feb 2020 #59
"you former clinton voters"....So you didn't vote for Clinton? That's interesting... ehrnst Feb 2020 #60
No, but I am DEEPLY disappointed in Rashida. RandySF Feb 2020 #3
I am disappointed in my rep, Jayapal. LisaM Feb 2020 #12
That shocked me. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #15
Yeah, I was really liking Jayapal. Starting to question now. MH1 Feb 2020 #27
Me too ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #38
And the irony here is.... LisaM Feb 2020 #41
Yeah I don't get it ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #14
And I am disappointed in Ilhan Omar. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #53
Has Bernie had anything to say about this? Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #7
He never does. murielm99 Feb 2020 #10
... BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #11
Supported him in the last cycle Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #8
It affected my opinion of Pramila Jayapal ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #16
Mine too, and I am framing a call. LisaM Feb 2020 #46
It reinforces my opinion...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #17
Pretty much this. Codeine Feb 2020 #48
No it doesn't change my opinion. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #25
Did not affect my opinion of Bernie, but sure did in regards to Tlaib MichMan Feb 2020 #30
Stupid, unrofessional and short sighted behavior MontanaMama Feb 2020 #31
It didn't change my already low opinion of the comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #36
No. His hypocrisy about the crime bill did. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #39
If Back Bench Bernie is the nominee I WILL vote for him, but... MarianJack Feb 2020 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #44
Hillary told the truth. Talib should do research before spouting off. oasis Feb 2020 #49
It sure didn't help it any. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #52
Mostly it changed my opinion of Rep Jayapal tishaLA Feb 2020 #55
Options 4 and 6 are essentially the same. But regardless... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #56
 

Gothmog

(145,794 posts)
1. sanders cannot get nomination without support from former Clinton voters
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:16 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Gothmog (Reply #1)

 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
37. It certainly
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

Affected my opinion of her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
2. So why are you former "Clinton voters" always threatening that you won't support the nominee
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:21 AM
Feb 2020

If it is Sanders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
6. +2
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:07 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
9. ROFLMAO, is that a joke?!?!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:24 AM
Feb 2020

When more than 40% of BS supporters refuse to commit to supporting the nominee if BS loses?!?!

Ever heard of #bernieorbust?

Notice that Bernie's is the ONLY campaign that has hired on leadership positions that were openly and vocally Stein supporters??

Maybe.. just maybe.. a swath of those who supported Clinton have finally had enough of BS's campaign acting like they are ENTITLED to our votes while at the same time and for years refusing to make a firm commitment to us. This might come as a shock to you, but when you're insulted by a candidate, and his surrogates for years, the desire to support tends to suffer some.

Here's some helpful pointers to stopping this anti BS movement:
1. Stop attacking the Democratic Party as a whole.
2. Drop the Stein supporters.
3. Go after trump the same way he goes after Democratic Party Candidates.

Have you also noticed that BS is the ONLY candidate that everyone else is against? It isn't his policies like a segment of his devout would have people believe.. Many who detest him, adore Warren. If it was policy, they'd dislike her as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zoonart

(11,896 posts)
21. Sound familiar?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:01 AM
Feb 2020

1. Only he can solve our problems
2. Only his programs will work
3. Everything is rigged against him
4. He yells
5. He is temperamentally unfit for office
6. Seems to me that his campaign staff is running him and not the other way round.
7. He is NOT a Democrat

This is why I do not support Bernie.
My candidate was Corey Booker.
All that being said, I will vote for Bernie if he is the candidate.
(spoiler... I voted for Bernie in my state primary in 2016. I have done my Bernie homework)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brutus smith (Reply #2)

 

highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
19. Links to prove that HRC supporters are making such threats?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:53 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #19)

 

highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
22. She's still going to vote for Sanders if he's the nominee. And since Sanders will be leaving the
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020

Democratic Party again if he ISN'T our nominee, and his supporters have no problem with that, those supporters are in absolutely NO position to criticize anyone else for considering leaving the party if they feel it's gone too far left, when they're fine with him being an independent because he doesn't think the party's far enough left. It's sheer hypocrisy to fault any Democrats considering becoming independents if the party moves too far left.

I hope we can count on Sanders supporters voting for our nominee if it isn't him.

I'm much more concerned about them not voting than I am about any lifelong Democrats leaving the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #22)

 

highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
24. Your earlier post did NOT include the fact she'd said she'd vote for Sanders against Trump.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020

Which implied she wouldn't be voting Democratic in this election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #24)

 

highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
32. I asked for links -- plural -- because you said "they" were making threats.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:54 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #32)

 

highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
34. Didn't think you could back up your claim.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
51. That person doesn't say they're going to leave the party
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #51)

 

Lancero

(3,017 posts)
54. Gotta admire the quality of those mental gymnastics.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020

"I hate this Independent who calls himself a Democrat so much that if he becomes the nominee I'll leave the Democrats and become a Independent!"

Ideological differences that prevent you from calling yourself a Democrat, but still willing to support them. My my, how... Sanderish.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MH1

(17,608 posts)
26. Where?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:24 AM
Feb 2020

(or did I fall for a trick question here? Hmm.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
29. They said cannot get the NOMINATION without help from Clinton voters. nt
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,378 posts)
35. Isn't everybody on DU a former Clinton voter?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
58. I think the poster meant Clinton primary voters
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020

But there may be some on DU who didn't vote for Hillary in the general in 2016, either because they were too young, not citizens, etc. or because they have become Democrats between 2016 and now or voted for another candidate in 2016 and realized it's a mistake, which is great.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

trueblue2007

(17,243 posts)
45. Because ..... He. Stinks !!!!!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
47. I don't much care for him
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:08 PM
Feb 2020

and I find his supporters absolutely impossible to deal with, but I’ll still vote for him if the worst case scenario happens and he wins the nomination. I’ve always voted, I’ve always voted Blue, and I don’t intend to change my track record anytime soon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(84,000 posts)
50. Care to link where any of us said that?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020

I will wait here.

PS, You have that completely turned around.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
59. Care to back that up with some sources?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020

Like a poll or something?

https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-yang-bernie-sanders-supporters-wont-support-another-nominee-democratic-unity-msnbc-poll-1485241




So, you're not a "former Clinton voter?"

Who did you vote for in the General? Do tell....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
60. "you former clinton voters"....So you didn't vote for Clinton? That's interesting...
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(59,606 posts)
3. No, but I am DEEPLY disappointed in Rashida.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:22 AM
Feb 2020

I was back in Michigan for the 2018 primary and stuck up for her when she won an upset. I also stuck for her and Omar through all the accusations of anti-Semitism. But, I kind of hope Brenda Jones runs again this year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LisaM

(27,848 posts)
12. I am disappointed in my rep, Jayapal.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:19 AM
Feb 2020

This is just a horrible thing.

As usual, Sanders will ignore it, or give it tacit approval.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,766 posts)
15. That shocked me.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:42 AM
Feb 2020

How very disappointing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MH1

(17,608 posts)
27. Yeah, I was really liking Jayapal. Starting to question now.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Feb 2020

When someone goes too far, it generally isn't wise to jump on the bandwagon to stay one of "the gang". Better to be the adult and show true leadership. Jayapal can still recover, hopefully.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ismnotwasm

(42,022 posts)
38. Me too
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:13 PM
Feb 2020

She’s my rep as well, and always impressed me with her immigrant rights work.

For her to snicker like a kid on stage disappointed me so much

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LisaM

(27,848 posts)
41. And the irony here is....
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:32 PM
Feb 2020

In the primary, she essentially criticized Brady Walkinshaw for being sexist for running against her, now she supports a male candidate against strong women candidates (she can support whomever she wants, it's just inconsistent).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ismnotwasm

(42,022 posts)
42. Yeah I don't get it
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020

One of the things I admired about her is her “grown up in the room” persona. I cannot shake that juvenile behavior image out of my head.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to RandySF (Reply #3)

 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,946 posts)
53. And I am disappointed in Ilhan Omar.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:42 PM
Feb 2020

She and the rest of "the Squad" don't seem to understand that their job is to represent their districts and not just the people who agree with them all the time, and that constantly painting targets on their own backs prevents them from being effective representatives. Although I enthusiastically supported Omar in 2018 I will be looking very seriously at her primary challenger, John Mason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Arkansas Granny

(31,538 posts)
7. Has Bernie had anything to say about this?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:16 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,780 posts)
10. He never does.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:37 AM
Feb 2020

He could curb his supporters. He does not bother.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
11. ...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:08 AM
Feb 2020

Exactly.

I too am disappointed in Tlaib. But it is Bernie's actions that bias me against him, not hers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Supported him in the last cycle
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:18 AM
Feb 2020

Voted for HRC in the general election. I prefer Andrew Yang, but will vote for the nominee.

Not a Bernie or bust voter, not a PUMA voter. If Yang is not the nominee, I will pretty much lose interest and it will be confined to voting in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ismnotwasm

(42,022 posts)
16. It affected my opinion of Pramila Jayapal
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:45 AM
Feb 2020

Not much can be done about my opinion about Bernie Sanders. Jayapal is my Rep. I’m still angry. I liked Jayapal. So discouraging and disconcerting

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LisaM

(27,848 posts)
46. Mine too, and I am framing a call.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:58 PM
Feb 2020

I need to write down my talking points and just lay them out politely, but I will call.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
17. It reinforces my opinion...nt
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:45 AM
Feb 2020

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
48. Pretty much this.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:13 PM
Feb 2020

Shitty surrogates gonna surrogate shittily.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,766 posts)
18. No it doesn't change my opinion.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:47 AM
Feb 2020

It was just another example of his divisiveness. It did change my opinion of the three representatives involved. And not for the better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

 

MichMan

(12,001 posts)
30. Did not affect my opinion of Bernie, but sure did in regards to Tlaib
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
31. Stupid, unrofessional and short sighted behavior
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:51 AM
Feb 2020

for these women. It would not effect my opinion of the BS campaign unless this was somehow embraced/endorsed by them. If it isn’t called out as such by the campaign, it might say something about them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,183 posts)
36. It didn't change my already low opinion of the
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 11:17 AM
Feb 2020

Sanders campaign. This is the sort of behavior I expect from Bernie and his team.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
39. No. His hypocrisy about the crime bill did. nt
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
40. If Back Bench Bernie is the nominee I WILL vote for him, but...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:34 PM
Feb 2020

...he WILL lose, more than likely in a landslide.

Can you imaging Dolt45's ego if he gets a second term on a landslide? BARF!

RESIST!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to MarianJack (Reply #40)

 

oasis

(49,454 posts)
49. Hillary told the truth. Talib should do research before spouting off.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,946 posts)
52. It sure didn't help it any.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

If it was just a one-off it wouldn't make much difference - I supported him in 2016 but I've kind of had it with him for other reasons - but there seems to be a trend for his supporters and surrogates to spend more time attacking Democrats than going after Trump. That's so wrong and I wish he'd tell them to stop doing it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
55. Mostly it changed my opinion of Rep Jayapal
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:54 PM
Feb 2020

It used to be positive and I'm afraid it's making me believe I had bad judgment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,998 posts)
56. Options 4 and 6 are essentially the same. But regardless...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

...no opinion stated by someone who is not the candidate nor an official representative of the campaign would ever influence what I think about a candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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