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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:28 AM Feb 2020

So Michael Moore speaks at a Sanders rally

and attacks the Democratic Party. Not Trump or Republicans in the senate but the Democratic Party. With “friends” like these we don’t need enemies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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So Michael Moore speaks at a Sanders rally (Original Post) Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 OP
Of course Michael Nader Moore did. Cha Feb 2020 #1
The likes of Michael Moore cost us the 2000 and 2016 elections scheming daemons Feb 2020 #2
I wish Michael Moore would go away to hell. NYMinute Feb 2020 #3
It's deja vu all over again; Yogi Berra nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #4
The only one Michael Moore is interested in promoting ... CatMor Feb 2020 #5
mature people NJCher Feb 2020 #6
Constructive criticism Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #7
Sanders is known for NJCher Feb 2020 #8
What has sanders accomplished in the real world? Gothmog Feb 2020 #10
be aware NJCher Feb 2020 #12
LOL. sanders is a very weak candidate who has zero legislative accomplishments Gothmog Feb 2020 #22
Thank you for that, Goth! Cha Feb 2020 #47
Not talking about Sanders Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #23
He is godlike that way. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author aeromanKC Feb 2020 #27
"Mature people" don't bogus attack.. Cha Feb 2020 #16
Yes, they do jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #46
I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago Gothmog Feb 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #29
sanders has very poor judgement on staffing and endorses Gothmog Feb 2020 #44
MM "All Obama Will Be Remembered For Is Being The "First Black President" Cha Feb 2020 #34
Why don't you post what he said instead of leaving it a big blank Beringia Feb 2020 #11
Ditto krkaufman Feb 2020 #19
Exactly Beringia Feb 2020 #39
Here's one of several recent MM IA speeches JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #41
Progressive want to make the Democratic party more progressive, not center Beringia Feb 2020 #42
What did he say? betsuni Feb 2020 #13
See here krkaufman Feb 2020 #20
Thank you. betsuni Feb 2020 #21
Moore spoke at the original Women's March JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #14
It was Ashley Judd who took the mic away from Moore.. Cha Feb 2020 #15
+++ still_one Feb 2020 #33
Yes! Here is video of Ashley Judd's great speech. JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Feb 2020 #32
Stop peeing into your own teent Danmark Feb 2020 #17
Tell that to michael moore Cha Feb 2020 #24
Michael Moore is a true liberal, doesn't sugarcoat crap & yes, he does hurt peoples feelings yaesu Feb 2020 #18
Moore is a millionaire white guy Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #37
"A vote for Gore is a vote for Bush" - Michael Moore scheming daemons Feb 2020 #40
Exactly squirecam Feb 2020 #45
michael moore is full of BullShit.. Cha Feb 2020 #25
Tired of this type of thing treestar Feb 2020 #26
Moore is wrong... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #30
Even while he's carrying water for them? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #36
This is.not the time to criticize the Democratic Party. From my perspective it is becoming very still_one Feb 2020 #31
I fully expect if Sanders isn't the nominee for MM to predict trump will be re-elected like he still_one Feb 2020 #35
Like Fred Gutenberg, I have no respect for this man Gothmog Feb 2020 #48
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
1. Of course Michael Nader Moore did.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
2. The likes of Michael Moore cost us the 2000 and 2016 elections
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

He actively worked against Gore, and it led to war.

He actively worked against Hillary, and we got Trump.


Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon, the "squad".... they're doing their best to get Trump re-elected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
3. I wish Michael Moore would go away to hell.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

He is a republican tool - always has been.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
4. It's deja vu all over again; Yogi Berra nt
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
5. The only one Michael Moore is interested in promoting ...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020

is Michael Moore. He is a pompous windbag.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
6. mature people
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:54 AM
Feb 2020

learn from criticism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
7. Constructive criticism
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:56 AM
Feb 2020

not bs attacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
8. Sanders is known for
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:00 AM
Feb 2020

having his facts together.

One has to have an ego that can handle criticism. Most of the time that isn't the situation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
10. What has sanders accomplished in the real world?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:06 AM
Feb 2020

The man has zero legislative accomplishments

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
12. be aware
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020

that I no longer will respond to your posts. You posted irrelevant information in the past to points I made and on which I specifically requested substantiation on from you. You failed to come across, and I can't be bothered with you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
22. LOL. sanders is a very weak candidate who has zero legislative accomplishments
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:02 AM
Feb 2020

sanders was such a weak candidate last cycle that there was no need for the Clinton campaign to use any of the oppo contained in the very well written and researched memo. That had over 1000 pages of backup


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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
47. Thank you for that, Goth!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
23. Not talking about Sanders
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:45 AM
Feb 2020

Re-read the OP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
43. He is godlike that way.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:32 PM
Feb 2020

"In a 1969 essay for the Freeman called “Cancer, Disease and Society,” Sanders, then 28, contended that conformity caused cancer by breaking down the human spirit and inflicting emotional trauma."

"What do you think it really means when 3 doctors, after intense study, write that ‘of the 26 patients (who developed breast cancer) below 51 (years of age), one was sexually adjusted.’ It means, very bluntly, that the manner in which you bring up your daughter with regard to sexual attitudes may very well determine whether or not she will develop breast cancer, among other things."

"How much guilt, nervousness have you imbued in your daughter with regard to sex? If she is 16, 3 years beyond puberty and the time which nature set forth for childbearing, and spent a night out with her boyfriend, what is your reaction? Do you take her to a psychiatrist because she is “maladjusted,” or a “prostitute,” or are you happy that she has found someone with whom she can share love? Are you concerned about HER happiness, or about your “reputation” in the community."


“These articles were written more than 40 years ago,” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said in an email to Mother Jones. “Like most people, Bernie’s views on many issues have changed over time.”


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-freeman-sexual-freedom-fluoride/

And here we were told Bernie was always consistent.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #7)

 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
16. "Mature people" don't bogus attack..
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020






Attack Biden for the same thing BS did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
9. I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:05 AM
Feb 2020

Who cares what a maker of bad films thinks?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
44. sanders has very poor judgement on staffing and endorses
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
11. Why don't you post what he said instead of leaving it a big blank
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:21 AM
Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
19. Ditto
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:28 AM
Feb 2020

Heh, I read through the thread wondering if anyone would post what Moore had actually said, but nope ... they were all too busy ripping him based on the OP comment’s spin or some past grievance against him. Michael can be a bit much at times, but I’d prefer to form my own impression of his comments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
39. Exactly
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

It's like mention someone's name and then people bring out the pitchforks and torches.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
41. Here's one of several recent MM IA speeches
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:27 PM
Feb 2020

Mostly he just blathers pointlessly, but about 24 min. in, he begins relitigating 2016, speculating that Bernie could've won states Hillary lost.

More troubling for me was at about 11 min. in during a phoned message from Bernie himself, where he says his objective is to"take on the entire political establishment," including the Democratic Party.

That sounds like he plans to remake our party in his own image the way Trump has done the GOP.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
42. Progressive want to make the Democratic party more progressive, not center
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:20 PM
Feb 2020

How would go about trying to make the party go more toward those values you put as priorities?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
13. What did he say?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:51 AM
Feb 2020

Is there any link?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
20. See here
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:53 AM
Feb 2020

See this tweet for what is likely the outburst being referenced...

https://mobile.twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1223473200643870722

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
21. Thank you.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 05:03 AM
Feb 2020

That was weird. Conspiracy theory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
14. Moore spoke at the original Women's March
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:17 AM
Feb 2020

...and spoke and spoke, mansplaining to the pink-hatted largest protest march in history how to organize for change.

Finally, some women running the stage nearly had to drag him away from the mic.

MM is much more useful to the cause behind the camera than in front of it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. It was Ashley Judd who took the mic away from Moore..
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:26 AM
Feb 2020
Actress Ashley Judd Dropped Jaws, Drew Cheers With Her Speech At The Women’s March

It takess a lot to upstage Michael Moore. But Ashley Judd managed to do just that when she grabbed the mic from the surprised documentarian and launched into an anti-Trump performance that rocked the crowd in Washington, D.C.

https://www.good.is/articles/ashley-judd-slays-trump-poem
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
38. Yes! Here is video of Ashley Judd's great speech.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

The clip shows her incredibly inspiring piece --- which she could perform only after giving MM the bum's rush.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to JaneQPublic (Reply #14)

 

Danmark

(39 posts)
17. Stop peeing into your own teent
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:09 AM
Feb 2020

Putin is winning

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
24. Tell that to michael moore
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:48 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. Michael Moore is a true liberal, doesn't sugarcoat crap & yes, he does hurt peoples feelings
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:28 AM
Feb 2020

sometimes but that politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
37. Moore is a millionaire white guy
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020

who has done more to help republicans get elected than democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
40. "A vote for Gore is a vote for Bush" - Michael Moore
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

"True liberal", you say?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
25. michael moore is full of BullShit..
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:15 AM
Feb 2020
Michael Moore: All Obama Will Be Remembered For Is Being The "First Black President"

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dorsey/michael-moore-all-obama-will-be-remembered-for-is-being-the

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
26. Tired of this type of thing
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:25 AM
Feb 2020

They are a minority, they will lose, and they whine about it all day. Bernie did not win the last primary and he won't win this one. Note how entitled they are. They don't need to convince actual voters - all they have to do is whine that it's "rigged."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
28. Moore is wrong...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:27 AM
Feb 2020

...if Black and Hispanic Democrats supported Booker and Castro, they'd be on the stage. What's the DNC supposed to do - ask people who have dropped out of the race to get on the debate stage? Maybe ask some of the "all White" group of Democrats Moore refers to, to leave the stage? Maybe ask Bernie and Biden to drop out because they've had a chance, while Booker and Castro have not? I'm disappointed in Moore...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
36. Even while he's carrying water for them?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,153 posts)
31. This is.not the time to criticize the Democratic Party. From my perspective it is becoming very
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

clear that MM is a liability

Have fun Michael, like Ralph Nader you have become irrelevant

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,153 posts)
35. I fully expect if Sanders isn't the nominee for MM to predict trump will be re-elected like he
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:21 AM
Feb 2020

he predicted president Romney and McCain

his “a vote for Gore is a vote for bush” says everything one needs to know about Moore’s critical thinking skills

Moore is a divisive Person who divides Democrats by constantly criticizing the Democratic Party at the wrong time, and uniting repukes

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
48. Like Fred Gutenberg, I have no respect for this man
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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