Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders' (2019) MLK comments anger Barack Obama supporters
Remember how Bernie Sanders celebrated MLK day last year by taking it as an opportunity to disparage the Democratic party and Barack Obama? Of course, his supporters may argue that quoting Bernie's own words is divisive.
https://www.salon.com/2018/04/06/bernie-sanders-mlk-comments-anger-barack-obama-supporters/
On Wednesday, during an event in Jackson, Mississippi honoring King's legacy on the 50th anniversary of his death, Sanders discussed the future of the Democratic Party with members of the audience.
"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure," Sanders told the audience, according to BuzzFeed. "People sometimes don't see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama, who won the presidency in 2008 and 2012."
Sanders added, "He was obviously an extraordinary candidate, brilliant guy. But behind that reality, over the last 10 years, Democrats have lost about 1,000 seats in state legislatures all across this country."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)He should drop out
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Cha
(297,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Many in the 2010 elections that allowed the GOP to take control of the House, and many states a well.
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TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...and instead focus on 2010 to pronounce the Democratic Party a failure. Why 2006 or 2008? You have one year when you lose control, then the Democratic party is a failure? And he wants to be the Democratic nominee? Why when every chance he gets he draws a false equivalency between the Democratic and Republicans "establishment."
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Cha
(297,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)First, I blame apathetic voters.
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Cha
(297,154 posts)Day by trashing President Obama"?
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)it was a bad decision that will not build allies.
We can know what the problem is, and work to solve it, but it is best in my view to focus on the real problems.
1) The GOP leadership is corrupt.
2) We need to do what we can to create another, bigger, wave in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)We agree on that, and probably many other things.
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dlk
(11,552 posts)As a voting group, few are more politically savvy.
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demigoddess
(6,640 posts)he has been hurting/accusing dems more than republicans.
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dlk
(11,552 posts)I have always wondered about someone who expects to receive Democratic Party resources while refusing to join the party.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)This is Sanders talking about the failure of the party *despite* not *because* of Obama's presidency. It is not an attack on Obama by any means. (And "failure of the party" refers to the loss of all those seats.)
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TomCADem
(17,387 posts)For example, just a month ago, Bernie Sanders pushed a false equivalency blaming Republicans and Democrats equally for failing the American people, and the New York Times, too, for good measure! It is amazing how Bernie took no ownership of his own role in how Trump became President, but chooses to equally blame Democrats and Republicans.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/17/trumps-racist-demagoguery-only-works-says-sanders-because-too-many-americans-feel
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Lexblues
(180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Democrats = Republican-lite. And Dems are always at fault.
So, tell me again why Sanders insists on running as a Democrat when elections come up? Well, the Senator for Vermont admitted it himself during the 2016 campaign, why he didn't run as an Independent: For the money advantage and the PR exposure.
Excuse me, I'll vote for an actual Democrat in the primary. And hopefully, one of those Democrats will be our nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden