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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:18 PM Jan 2020

Bernie Sanders' (2019) MLK comments anger Barack Obama supporters

Remember how Bernie Sanders celebrated MLK day last year by taking it as an opportunity to disparage the Democratic party and Barack Obama? Of course, his supporters may argue that quoting Bernie's own words is divisive.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/06/bernie-sanders-mlk-comments-anger-barack-obama-supporters/

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has once again aroused controversy, this time after he made comments about President Barack Obama at an event honoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that critics claimed disparaged the first African-American president and supporters insist was taken out of context.

On Wednesday, during an event in Jackson, Mississippi honoring King's legacy on the 50th anniversary of his death, Sanders discussed the future of the Democratic Party with members of the audience.

"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure," Sanders told the audience, according to BuzzFeed. "People sometimes don't see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama, who won the presidency in 2008 and 2012."

Sanders added, "He was obviously an extraordinary candidate, brilliant guy. But behind that reality, over the last 10 years, Democrats have lost about 1,000 seats in state legislatures all across this country."
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
1. Bernie will never get the support of African Americans
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jan 2020

He should drop out

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
2. YES.. how could we forget?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jan 2020
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. He was obviously speaking about the 1,000 plus seats lost.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jan 2020

Many in the 2010 elections that allowed the GOP to take control of the House, and many states a well.

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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
5. But Why Celebrate MLK Day By Trashing Obama and the Democrats...
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jan 2020

...and instead focus on 2010 to pronounce the Democratic Party a failure. Why 2006 or 2008? You have one year when you lose control, then the Democratic party is a failure? And he wants to be the Democratic nominee? Why when every chance he gets he draws a false equivalency between the Democratic and Republicans "establishment."

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
12. Exactly.. why do that?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. I do not blame the Democratic Party.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jan 2020

First, I blame apathetic voters.

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Cha

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13. No, it wasn't.. like Tom said.. why "celebrate MLK
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jan 2020

Day by trashing President Obama"?

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guillaumeb

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15. In my view,perhaps in the view of most people,
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jan 2020

it was a bad decision that will not build allies.

We can know what the problem is, and work to solve it, but it is best in my view to focus on the real problems.

1) The GOP leadership is corrupt.
2) We need to do what we can to create another, bigger, wave in 2020.

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
16. Here BS is Again Gratuitously Dissing President Obama around MLK Day..
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. It was unecessary, and unneeded.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020

We agree on that, and probably many other things.

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dlk

(11,552 posts)
4. There is a reason most African-Americans don't/won't support Bernie
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

As a voting group, few are more politically savvy.

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demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
6. don't blame them. Don't like Bernie myself.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jan 2020

he has been hurting/accusing dems more than republicans.

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dlk

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8. I have personally met some avid/rabid Bernie supporters
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jan 2020

I have always wondered about someone who expects to receive Democratic Party resources while refusing to join the party.

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thesquanderer

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7. Geez, THIS again?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jan 2020

This is Sanders talking about the failure of the party *despite* not *because* of Obama's presidency. It is not an attack on Obama by any means. (And "failure of the party" refers to the loss of all those seats.)

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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. Yup. BS Just Keeps Making Divisive, Anti-Democratic Statements
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jan 2020

For example, just a month ago, Bernie Sanders pushed a false equivalency blaming Republicans and Democrats equally for failing the American people, and the New York Times, too, for good measure! It is amazing how Bernie took no ownership of his own role in how Trump became President, but chooses to equally blame Democrats and Republicans.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/17/trumps-racist-demagoguery-only-works-says-sanders-because-too-many-americans-feel

"How did Trump become president?" Sanders said. "I think it speaks to something that I talk about a lot and that is the fact that...tens and tens of millions of Americans feel that the political establishment, Republican and Democrat, have failed them. Maybe the New York Times has failed them, too."
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Lexblues

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11. Don't leave out that Bernie wanted Obama primaried in 2012
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jan 2020
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peggysue2

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17. That's standard Sanders
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:17 AM
Jan 2020

Democrats = Republican-lite. And Dems are always at fault.

So, tell me again why Sanders insists on running as a Democrat when elections come up? Well, the Senator for Vermont admitted it himself during the 2016 campaign, why he didn't run as an Independent: For the money advantage and the PR exposure.

Excuse me, I'll vote for an actual Democrat in the primary. And hopefully, one of those Democrats will be our nominee.

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