Tweet from "People for Bernie"

[ehrnst]

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Someone who can't tolerate a fair amount of bullshit shouldn't be in politics.

[Cha]

82. And they shouldn't be adding to it, either..

[lapucelle]

2. "And I don't say "Happy Birthday".

I can't wait to see the Larry David version of the interview.

Did a pro-BS group really post this?

[ehrnst]

42. Maybe someone is unhappy about being left out of celebrations

Or just unhappy around groups of happy progressive people

[sheshe2]

3. Ouch.

I am not good at pleasantries. I will not wish you a happy birthday.

Speaks volumes.

[Quackers]

12. And that just shows his true character even more.

He comes off as rigid, inflexible, not good with change, not willing to compromise with anyone. He wants to give orders and expects no pushback from anyone. Happy Birthday? The hell it is! Ba-humbug.

[sheshe2]

16. The vid focused on two black faces.

They did not look happy with his message.

Why anyone from People For Bernie think this is a good vid is beyond me.

[Scurrilous]

25. At first it was bad he didn't get the endorsement, now it's good he didn't get it. A badge of honor.

I can't find the clip but I was watching a Bernie rally w/ Naomi Klein yesterday and she was telling the crowd how Bernie was going to D.C. and that he was going to introduce the Green New Deal and there were cheers and cheers from the crowd and I said wha....??


Grand opening -

Senator Markey and Rep. Ocasio-Cortez Introduce Green New Deal Resolution (Thursday, February 7, 2019)

https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senator-markey-and-rep-ocasio-cortez-introduce-green-new-deal-resolution


Grand closing -


Republicans defeat Green New Deal in U.S. Senate vote Democrats call a stunt (3/26/2019)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climate-greennewdeal/republicans-defeat-green-new-deal-in-u-s-senate-vote-democrats-call-a-stunt-idUSKCN1R71BZ


These people are seriously loopy and out of touch. And blinded.

[lapucelle]

37. Wait...what? The Seacoast NH Women's March was a BS rally?

That's the event Klein appeared at with BS on Saturday. It was a Women's March. He made a brief speech, and left before the march began to go campaign somewhere else.

https://www.facebook.com/events/2811794492242250/

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-01-18/sanders-steps-up-appeals-to-women-after-flap-with-warren

[Scurrilous]

41. This one I think.

[lapucelle]

44. I guess Naomi didn't march either.

First things first.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. How will he like the impeachment trial, given McConnell's draconian rules?

The people in that interview look bored to death.

[Cha]

5. lol.. bacatcha.

[mcar]

6. This is getting worse and worse

Where other candidates have been nitpicked about gaffes, things they said 20+ years ago, if they, as a prosecutor, actually prosecuting crimes (I still miss you, Kamala!), Bernie has apparently decided being careful is not going to work for him.

[George II]

7. Someone should send him a copy of Dale Carnegie's book.

[billpolonsky]

9. He was a millionaire....

What's your point.

[sheshe2]

19. So is Bernie.

What is your point.

[ehrnst]

30. ......

[Cha]

83. What's yours?

[lapucelle]

11. Didn't Dale Carnegie become a millionaire by writing a best selling book

called "How to Win Friends and Influence People"?

[sheshe2]

20. OMG!

Bernie did not read that one.

[George II]

27. That's the book. Yes, he made a lot of money from the book, relatively speaking....

....he wrote it in the 1930s.

You made me look up his biography. All these years (like 50+?) I thought he was one of THE Carnegies, but he wasn't. He was born into poverty on a farm in Missouri.

Thanks! The things one learns here on DU.

[lapucelle]

38. I think Carnegie's specialty was helping people acquire interpersonal skills.

Step 1. Say Happy Birthday when it's someone's birthday.

[Scurrilous]

50. ...

[ehrnst]

51. Step 2. Treat one's coworkers and employees with respect and dignity.

https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657

[lapucelle]

52. ...

Step 3. Remember it's impolite to point or put your hand in someone's face.

[ehrnst]

68. .....

[lapucelle]

78. Another rule...

4. Engage in friendly conversation! When someone speaks to you, acknowledge and look at him.

[emmaverybo]

76. Good one!

[ehrnst]

32. There's no law against making millions selling a book!

How dare you smear Dale Carnegie!!

[Happy Hoosier]

8. Except from his own staff....

... unless he agrees with them, of course.

[samnsara]

10. OK...hes officially my cranky uncle.....

..and I dont want my cranky uncle in the white house either...

[NYMinute]

13. Unhinged rant

Fits the demographics

[UniteFightBack]

18. I don't say happy birthday because I'm too busy being focused on the issues that matter

to the American people. What The Everloving Fuck.

[W_HAMILTON]

45. Well, when you put it like that -- LOL!

[Scurrilous]

65. America? Bernie's going worldwide!

"At the rally in Conway on Sunday, Klein espoused confidence that Sanders will win the Democratic nomination and ultimately defeat Trump in November.

"It's going to be the most epic case of moral whiplash the world has ever seen," Klein said. "And it's going to inspire people around the world to find their own survival instinct and act like the house is on fire—because it is."

Translations -

Moral whiplash: Nothing on google.

Survival instinct: An episode of Star Trek Voyager.

Act like the house is on fire - paraphrasing Greta Thunberg; panic.

[MH1]

14. I can relate. But I would not be a very good President.

Oh, better than the current occupant. But that's rather a low bar.

I am very good at what I do, and I like to hire people who I expect to be very good at their jobs. Sanders doesn't impress me as one who will be very good at being President.

[George II]

28. If his top staffers (Turner, Gray, Sirota, etc.) are any indication...

I can just imagine who he'd pick for his cabinet.

[The Valley Below]

15. Working well with others is essential to the job of being the president.

Sanders is temperamentally unsuited to the role.

Everyone know that's true.

[ehrnst]

33. One would think, wouldn't one? (nt)

[UniteFightBack]

17. That was really really bad. BAD. nt

[squirecam]

21. Not a helpful video

Nt

[Hav]

23. The perspective matters

If SNL was looking for new material, that was a gold mine.
For Bernie? Not something to be used in an ad, of course.

[peggysue2]

22. LOL!!

And that's what Bernie's campaign thinks a positive ad looks like? For their own candidate!

Why not just run a banner: Cranky Old Uncle Bernie?

Meanwhile, Cory Booker's interview was an absolute knockout.

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. The uncles that I knew were anything but cranky.

I had another who probably was cranky, but he died when I was pretty young. The thing is that he was crazy, hated FDR with a passion, and bigoted against most minorities. His politics might have aligned with Hitler and Mussolini.

He ended up hanging himself, but never heard any details of the why. It's a subject of much speculation between me, my sister and my cousins to this day.

Happily, the uncle I knew best was anything but cranky.

[Tiggeroshii]

26. Is this a "he needs to tolerate bullshit," thread?

I'm sure it isn't. Cause that would be stupid.

[ehrnst]

29. Ask People for Bernie

It's their video, not mine. But it looks someone is unhappy that a shoe is fitting.

[sheshe2]

31. Perhaps you can explain that to us.

This came from People For Bernie. Your group. You explain.

[ehrnst]

43. Crickets..... (nt)

[sheshe2]

47. Yep nt

[ehrnst]

48. I think a shoe fit....

[sheshe2]

49. ;)

[getagrip_already]

34. haven't we had enough of

Intolerance, rudeness, incivility, chaos, and general narcicistic bs?

I'd like to try civility and effectiveness again.

Thanks

[myohmy2]

35. a most excellent clip...

...view it for yourself...


...I'd run it as a campaign ad...

...Bernie's strong, decisive, articulate and takes no bullshit or crap...

...he doesn't do bullshit, why? because


"I try to stay focused on the important issues facing the working families in this country..."


...some don't get it, do they?

...this is why Bernie will be our next President...

[ehrnst]

39. If you say so. Did we see the same clip?

Not really sure that the American people think this is 'bullshit."






Maybe it's just those that don't get invited.

[squirecam]

60. Atticus?

Going for the Gladiator demographic with that pic?

[ehrnst]

61. Someone who gets wished a happy birthday...

Unlike others who are clearly unhappy about that kind of thing.

Perhaps those who didn't get invited?

[squirecam]

63. Yeah

Just riffing on the name on the cake.

[ehrnst]

67. Oh, you mean Atticus.

[squirecam]

69. Ive

Been watching too much Spartacus on Netflix.

[ehrnst]

70. I always think "Spartaculus" from Clueless...

[squirecam]

72. Lol

Nt

[Scurrilous]

46. Press him on the details...he'll do bullshit. Every fucking time!

Bernie Sanders cannot answer key question about Medicare for All: How to get it done

<snip>

"And this continues to be the big difficulty for Sanders. He was actually asked at the debate how exactly he would enact Medicare for All.

"I will tell you how we'll do it," Sanders said. "We'll do it the way real change has always taken place, whether it was the labor movement, the civil rights movement, or the women's movement. We will have Medicare for All when tens of millions of people are prepared to stand up and tell the insurance companies and the drug companies that their day is gone, that health care is a human right, not something to make huge profits off of."

That's a really good way to explain how people who support Medicare for All can lobby for it. But it does very little to answer the question of how he'd actually do it."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-democratic-debate-medicare-for-all/index.html

See the bolded section, that there is bullshit. So the Bernie 'doesn't do bullshit,' is bullshit. He does bullshit because the non-bullshit answer to 'how exactly he would enact Medicare for All' would be: "I can't enact Medicare for All under current Senate rules."

[Cha]

53. ...

[Scurrilous]

55. ...

[emmaverybo]

36. I love oddballs, those who walk to a different drummer, eschew bourgeoise conventions and

meaningless smalltalk, even those who verge on the anti-social because they are single-minded in
their solitary mission. Such eccentric cranks make the world go round and sometimes find a following of the like-minded.

But these offbeat personalities, proud to be intolerant of social niceties, happy with their own prickly temperament, are not well-suited to be the president of the United States—to unify, to negotiate, to lead the many pedestrian souls who do, in fact, take the time to say good morning and happy birthday, as they do not consider themselves too exalted for the small exchanges that smooth the way in daily life.

The fact that Sanders would think this demonstration of grump-chic a winning look is
amazing. Not sure why he bothered to include two African Americans who look like they can barely
tolerate him.

[sheshe2]

54. You nailed it, emma.

But these offbeat personalities, proud to be intolerant of social niceties, happy with their own prickly temperament, are not well-suited to be the president of the United States—to unify, to negotiate, to lead the many pedestrian souls who do, in fact, take the time to say good morning and happy birthday, as they do not consider themselves too exalted for the small exchanges that smooth the way in daily life.

Brava.

That vid was from The people For Bernie? Holy Shit. Not One Clue.

[Scurrilous]

74. Yeah...things were grim.

Things were grim because those people were not buying it. This guy goes up there and runs this garbage past them:

"He promises that once in office, a groundswell of support will emerge to push through his agenda."

That's straight-up demagogue. "A leader who makes use of false claims and promises in order to gain power."

[emmaverybo]

75. No. No. Just no. Build the consensus first. And yes, smacks of what you said, but I have to

mind my p’s and q’s. Don’t think Bernie aware of how he sounds at times.

[highplainsdem]

40. That came across as a rehearsed speech to create an image he thinks his followers

will be impressed by.

And rehearsed speeches during an interview are BS, even if done to announce you don't tolerate BS.

[ehrnst]

57. Those people don't look very interested.

I'm not sure why this went out unedited.

[highplainsdem]

58. That's the NYT staff interviewing Sanders. Here's a tweet from the NYT with another

part of the interview:

Link to tweet

[ehrnst]

59. Thanks for the context. (nt)

[betsuni]

56. Look. In revolution there is no "happy birthday." Identity politics meant to distract

us from focusing on the important issues facing the working families of this country. No back-slapping, no pleasantries. Only fighting. Happy birthday? No such thing.

[nolabear]

62. Who are those people? It's edited like a video deliberately made.

Two cameras. Cuts for reaction. What’s it supposed to be? It’s a weird campaign video but can’t be spontaneous.

I’m confused.

[highplainsdem]

66. NYT staff interviewing Sanders. See reply 58.

[nolabear]

71. Thanks. That other clip was illuminating too.

I don’t dispute some of what he said but making the case that being poor and not heard and economically held down makes you susceptible to 45’s brand of hate mongering is a hard sell to black folks.

I feel like everything we think we can be rests on this next election.

[NCProgressive]

64. Isn't that speshull

(In my best church-lady voice)

[oasis]

73. Thus Spoke Bernie!

[revmclaren]

77. Holy s&$t...

ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

[Hortensis]

79. :) Thanks for the chuckle. Sanders is a big-big-picture thinker,

and this is typical illustration of how he thinks and what he cares about. And doesn't.

People need to understand that Sanders has a giant revolution to do, dammit, and he's devoted the last 40 years of his life to nothing but. Those who think he's always been all talk and privilege miss the point that it's been such enormously important talk that it leaves no time for anything else.

[ehrnst]

80. I agree.

[MrsCoffee]

81. And get off my lawn!

[octoberlib]

84. For somebody who doesn't tolerate bullshit

very well , he sure does spew a lot of it.

[betsuni]

86. +1

[DetlefK]

85. Wow, that's desperate.

"I'm so busy with important things I'm not even gonna say happy birthday."

His PR-team is really grasping for straws here if they think that this neckbeard-ism will impress anyone.