Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden have the same rating on Social Security.

[Demsrule86]

The following ratings are based on the votes the organization considered most important; the numbers reflect the percentage of time the representative voted the organization's preferred position.

Joe Biden scores 89% by the ARA on senior issues
Ted Kennedy scores 89% by the ARA on senior issues

The mission of the Alliance for Retired Americans is to ensure social and economic justice and full civil rights for all citizens so that they may enjoy lives of dignity, personal and family fulfillment and security. The Alliance believes that all older and retired persons have a responsibility to strive to create a society that incorporates these goals and rights and that retirement provides them with opportunities to pursue new and expanded activities with their unions, civic organizations and their communities.

In 1985 Biden went around saying we should freeze entitlements including Social Security...during the height of the Reagan years where Democrats were trying to survive...he never voted against social security. And he voted against the lock-box combined with freezing the debt (balance budget)...thus helping kill it. I have posted his votes and Kennedy's votes for anyone who wants to look...pretty good website.

https://www.ontheissues.org/2020/Joe_Biden_Social_Security.htm
https://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ted_Kennedy_Social_Security.htm

[vsrazdem]

1. Sanders and Warren are 100%.

[Demsrule86]

5. And how long has Sanders and Warren been in the Senate...89 works for me.

Clearly...Sanders campaign is lying.

[Demsrule86]

7. So I guess if Teddy...lion of the Senate came back, he wouldn't be good enough for Sanders voters...

Alright, then. I of course and millions would disagree.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

13. He primaried Jimmy Carter

[Demsrule86]

23. Too bad he didn't win, Reagan would not have been elected and we would have health care.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. PLEASE STOP!! You're not sposed to rely on facts... you're interfering with all the Bernie bashing!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[George II]

2. Too bad we have to go through all this crap just because Sanders hired Sirota to do his dirty work..

....and lie about Biden's record.

[PatSeg]

4. And I don't hear anyone defending Sirota

Everyone knows that he has lied numerous times and used dirty tricks to undercut Sanders' competitors, yet I don't hear Bernie's supporters denying it or defending him.

[Cha]

3. KR!

[Demsrule86]

6. Thanks Cha...

[madville]

8. The negative 11% must be when they both voted to increase

Both Kennedy and Biden voted to raise the full social security retirement age from 65 to 67 in 1983, that’s about the only negative I can think for either of those two on that subject.

[Demsrule86]

9. That is it...and if you remember...that was a compromise and the GOP had Congress or part of

congress...it was supposed to keep it safe until 2047 I think...but GOP are liars.

[madville]

10. House was Dem, Senate was Rep

The House Democrats had a +104 seat advantage under Tip O’Neil. Almost half the Democrats in Congress voted to cut social security by raising the age. I’m still firmly behind Biden of course, those were different times and circumstances almost 40 years ago.

[Demsrule86]

11. We were fighting for our lives in Reagan's America...we were about to have the worst loss ever

with Dukakis.

[vsrazdem]

15. Or maybe its this one.

Freeze entitlements; don't favor special interests
Biden toured the country in 1985 chiding groups like unions and farmers for being too narrowly focused and complained that Democrats too often "think in terms of special interests first and the greater interest second." In the latter case, Biden was specifically complaining about their opposition to his calls for a spending freeze on entitlements and an increase in the retirement age.

[boomer_wv]

16. Can you

point to anything that happened since the last time Haleys Comet passed?

[vsrazdem]

17. It's his record isn't it.

[boomer_wv]

20. Sure

but it's pretty telling when you have to go back 35 years to find something to complain about him saying.

[vsrazdem]

21. Oh, you mean like when Sanders went to Russia on his honeymoon, or when he was Mayor of

Burlington, yea its pretty telling alright.

[boomer_wv]

22. Whatabout

And now you're defending it by bringing up some whataboutism that wasn't even part of this conversation.

[Demsrule86]

24. It was 85, Reagan's nightmare reign....so he has an 89% rating in terms of Social security and

anyone who says Biden has or wants to cut Social Security is a damn liar-not saying you. Sanders is getting some vetting today going back a number of years...some was quite shocking and unknown to me...everyone knows Biden's shit...it came out when he was the VP candidate but few know about some of the new stuff I saw about Sanders which is why it would be more effective in a general than any of the stuff known about Biden for years which is so innocuous...it had to be doctored in videos in order to use it for Sirota's attacks.

[vsrazdem]

18. It was also enlightening comparing the civil rights ratings.

BIDEN
ACLU 60% HRC 78% NAACP 100%

SANDERS
ACLU 93% HRC 100% NAACP 97%

[NYMinute]

19. Biden is fine in protecting SS and MC - Sanders campaigns dirty tricks notwithstanding