Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumLA Times Op Ed: Elizabeth Warren brushed off Bernie Sanders.Good.
Op-Ed: Elizabeth Warren brushed off Bernie Sanders and taught a master class in handling sexismAs the Democratic debate in Iowa wrapped Tuesday night, Sen. Elizabeth Warren confronted the extended hand of Sen. Bernie Sanders. He was plainly after one of those no hard feelings, good game handshakes. Were cool, right? Warren (D-Mass.) wasnt cool. Its hard to have the presence of mind to refuse the near-mandatory displays of collegiality, but she did, folding her hands. Noli me tangere. Touch me not. CNN had cut the sound by this time, but in the pantomime she could seem to be speaking brusquely.
(snip) Sanders dispute with Warren had erupted the day before, with a news report of the 2018 meeting between them at which, according to CNN, Sanders told Warren a woman cannot win a presidential election. Warren confirmed the story. Sanders aides then called CNNs (and Warrens) account a lie.
A lie. Pretty strenuous protesting-too-much denial of something that could have been handily mitigated. If Sanders had more composure , he might have confirmed the report too dont we all think he said something close to what was reported? Then Sanders could have explained that he, like many feminists, fears America is too sexist to elect a Madame President. Done.
Instead his campaign distilled to a poisonous brew all the current male anxieties about gender with that one word: Lie. (On Twitter, pro-Sanders botnets drove the point home with a classy Lying Liz hashtag.) In Iowa, Sanders bloviated when the inevitable question about the report surfaced: Anybody knows me knows that its incomprehensible that I would think that a woman cannot be president of the United States. Inconceivable!
Then: How could anybody in a million years not believe that a woman could become president of the United States? In a million years!
(snip) Warren won. She also proved shes a master strategist. She didnt let Sanders get away with denying hes sexist Tuesday night. Instead, she checkmated him into proving it.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-01-15/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-women-presidents-iowa-democratic-debate
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Word of that stunt is getting around to Bernie's supporters across the Country .She won't be the Second Choice for Bernie's supporters anymore ...Accusing Bernie , by inference , of being sexist is a bridge too far . She has burned her bridges with Progressives .The centrists will stick with Joe . How does planting this stuff to CNN forward her cause ? .The people who detest Bernie will cheer Warren on - but so what ? ..Those who are for Bernie will redouble their efforts .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,349 posts)Elizabeth Warren would ever run on the same ticket with Bernie has been living on a different planet.
And that was even BEFORE this moment.
He showed his true colors. He could easily have mitigated this situation. Instead, he made it worse. And at least some of his supporters are behaving exactly like Trumpers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
djacq
(1,633 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,208 posts)He could have said they misunderstood each other. Instead he called EW a liar. I do with the moderators had brought that up last night - one of them is lying about what was said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)I am reading all these comments about Bernie calling Warren a liar. She did the same damn thing. Called him a liar.
Who to believe? Well, Sanders wanted her to run in 2016, Sanders is on record stating a women can be President. So her comment doesn't jive with actual empirical evidence.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,278 posts)Sanders was a comparative nobody before he ran in 2016. He was right to defer to her because she was the darling of the left back then. Two years later, he had the power and she was in the way. Its pretty easy to see his motivation for discouraging her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,349 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peregrine Took
(7,408 posts)Now she has taken a turn to another persona as did Mayor Pete.
Not a good idea. People like consistency.
If she was so offended why didn't she mention this when it happened two years ago?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)Obviously Warren is a threat to Sanders now, so he is hostile to her success. Total sexism. He was already starting to thwart her before this, which is his history with others, so we know Warren is telling the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden