Why do they hate Biden so much?

[Eliot Rosewater]

I dont get it.

And what happened to the poll of who do you believe as in the Warren Sanders deal?

cant find it.

[redstatebluegirl]

5. Absolutely! This is also scary, they may stay home like they did in 2016.

If they can't have their way it is the highway.

[Eliot Rosewater]

7. I participate on a chat of a "progressive" talk show and even the mods there

have made it clear they consider Obama republican lite and Biden a flat out republican.

MODERATORS of a show with a progressive host. NOT the uygur...it goes without saying Uygur has these ridiculous opinions, no this is someone else.

Scary

I wrote to the show production staff and asked them if they know they are being used to promote russian KGB talking points.

[PatSeg]

21. That is really scary

Sounds more like Russian propaganda.

[Mike 03]

27. It's worse than "stay home" I'm afraid.

At least according to this Vox article:

About 12 percent of Bernie Sanders supporters from the Democratic primary crossed party lines and voted for Donald Trump in the general election, a new analysis says.

In several key states — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — the number of Sanders to Trump defectors were greater than Trump’s margin of victory, according to new numbers released Wednesday by UMass professor Brian Schaffner.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/24/16194086/bernie-trump-voters-study

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. That is MADDENING! Thanks for posting!

[Mike 03]

29. Yeah, I think this is really important.

People don't want to remember this.

[Eliot Rosewater]

30. I have read a few of your posts, you are a valued person here...thanks!

[Autumn]

9. Delusional? I don't think any Sanders supporters here is filled with hate enough to support

and recommend a project veritas expose on any Democratic candidates staffer.

[HerbChestnut]

2. Who's 'they'?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. I think we all know... these narratives do little but create division, which only helps Dump45.

We should share the common goal of defeating tRumpty Dumbty AT ALL COSTS!! LIVES DEPEND ON IT!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Who?

[Autumn]

4. Who is this mysterious "they" you are talking about?

[guillaumeb]

6. Because he is not "THE PERFECT CANDIDATE".

And because he is not "THE PERFECT CANDIDATE", and because his positions on every issue that matters to "THE PERFECTLY INFORMED VOTER" are not in line with the opinions of THE PERFECTLY INFORMED VOTER, that same PERFECTLY INFORMED VOTER must scrutinize why the inperfect candidate voted on any of a myriad of issues.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. I knew there was a reason I liked you

Yeah, perfect...

For instance I WISH Bernie was as much as a democratic socialist as I am , but he isnt...Would I still vote for him, if he is the nominee OF COURSE.

But neither he or 99.9999% of his supporters are as far to the left as I am.

[guillaumeb]

11. My thought from yesterday.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287421258

And no, do not ask me to reveal the true identity of the mysterious Eliot Hosewater.

Remember the comment from 2016 about how it is his time in the barrel? It is Biden's time.

[Eliot Rosewater]

18. Love this LOL

What amazes me about YOU is sometimes your posts are aggressively supportive of your candidate and I would find a few reasons to debate you on something maybe but then you do this CRAZY thing and say NO MATTER WHAT we have to do what we have to do to survive and get the best result!

I dont know who you are, nor you me, but we cant be alone. So thank you and lets keep keeping on!!

It is because of people like you that I wont lose hope, I nearly do daily but I wont...THANKS!

[guillaumeb]

20. "Keep on the sunny side".

AP Carter, and one of my favorite songs.

[George II]

14. Biden is like Ivory Soap, only 99-44/100 % pure. It's that 56/100 % that bugs them!

[guillaumeb]

16. From the recent past:

Roger Stone, and the “now it is his time in the barrel” comment.

Stone and one of his associates, Jerome Corsi, appear to have conducted communications with WikiLeaks and the “Guccifer 2.0” cutout, and Stone had contact with at least one Russian national offering dirt on Hillary Clinton. Most famously, Stone predicted in August of 2016 that something momentous involving Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta—his “time in the barrel”—was about to break, two months before Wikileaks distributed hacked emails of Podesta’s.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/roger-stones-time-barrel-campaign-dirty-tricks-political-sabotage-and-law


Divide and conquer.

[NYMinute]

25. It would bug them even if he were 99.9999999% pure

Because their messiah is 150% pure

[Demsrule86]

10. Why did they hate on Hillary so much in the general? They want what they want...

and won't accept that they are likely to lose the primary. They are flailing around in attack mode...trying to find that magic attack that will result in victory only there isn't one.

[Eliot Rosewater]

13. I had a moderator of a "progressive" show tell me she was SICK AND TIRED

of me telling her how much good Hillary and Bill do with their foundation.

That is when I realized what I was dealing with. Ignorant of course, but filled with hate also.

[Demsrule86]

15. Wow, unbelievable...they want to believe what they want to believe against all evidence...I am just

praying we don't have repeat of 16.

[guillaumeb]

17. Would this moderator prefer dirt?

Of course, because dirt sells and appeals to ratings driven corporate outlets.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. Joe Dirt...

[NYMinute]

22. It is funny as hell.

Enough "they"s responded asking about who "they" are and thinking it was them. Guilty conscience?

[Eliot Rosewater]

24. Which is why I just let them stew, I dont answer...

[peggysue2]

23. Don't get it either, Eliot

Haven't from the start. But haters have to hate and Joe Biden's experience, qualifications and proven durability make him a huge target. The electability factor falls into it, too. The pundits, talking heads and supporters of other candidates have tried their best to downplay the perception that Biden has carried throughout this campaign: that he's the best candidate to beat Trump in November. That sense, picked up by the electorate, has just infuriated a lot of people. The numerous Biden obituaries written over the last year is clear evidence of that frustration.

This has never been a slam-dunk for Biden and things can still happen. But Biden entered with a distinct advantage as the former Veep to an extraordinarily popular President, a long, accomplished career in public service and the sense of trust voters have in the man. People feel they know the heart of the man and that's important after living inside a cyclone for the last 3+ years.

We shall see. We know that Trump hates/fears Joe Biden and Putin doesn't like him either But I've always believed this was Biden's nomination to lose. And that factor can be daunting to political opponents and their campaigns, so the attempted tear downs and cherry-picked complaints were inevitable. The media has had Joe Biden on life-support throughout most of the year. Not sure what's that about either though I do know that the constant, withering critiques of Hillary Clinton injured her in 2016, made the GOP's disinformation campaign all the more easy.

We will know shortly how successful the vitriol and venting of spleen turns out to be.

Because in politics, things can always turn on a dime.

Btw, I believe Warren in the recent dispute. Must have missed the actual poll.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. It is funny, I have criticized Joe going way back to when he was chair of judicial and the

hearings for Thomas.

I could go on and on about THEN and the things NOW, but I wont, for obvious reasons.

I also LOVE the guy and think of him as an every-man, DECENT with his heart in the right place, always. Often does or says things we wish he wouldnt, but we KNOW if we were up against it, he would BE THERE!

When the election is over, I will tell someone here all about all of my issues...hint at one from a long time ago:


Who can turn a question into a 5 minute speech ? But they all do that, dont they.

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I LOVE JOE...I mean watch this video

This is an EVERY man who achieved way beyond his wildest imagination and then WOW