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Polybius

(15,381 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:11 PM Feb 2019

If Bernie Sanders can run in 2020, so should Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton has not announced a 2020 presidential campaign — though we already know what would happen if she did.

Boisterous (mostly male) political pundits would immediately lay an axe to her candidacy, decrying her “selfish” and “illogical” attempts to serve the American public in the White House. Democratic lawmakers would urge her to withdraw from the race, calling for “unity” in the battle against Donald Trump. And when it comes to the president, his sexist smears would once again ignite an exhaustive election cycle riddled with false double standards.

Even the prospect of Clinton launching another run for the Oval Office has produced fervently critical commentary: headlines in recent weeks have read, “Please, God, not Hillary.”

All in all, a campaign roll-out for Hillary would face far more backlash than that of Bernie Sanders, whose 2020 announcement was met with millions of dollars in donations from voters in every state across the country and swift analysis on how the lifelong Independent lawmaker could possibly win in an ever-crowded pool of popular Democrats.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bernie-sanders-2020-hillary-clinton-campaign-trump-sexism-candidate-democratic-primaries-a8787466.html

Good article!

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If Bernie Sanders can run in 2020, so should Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Polybius Feb 2019 OP
I'd vote for her again to justify how she got cheated to recify the wrong kimbutgar Feb 2019 #1
Perfect illustration of just how completely insane the whole thing is. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #2
They both CAN. elleng Feb 2019 #3
Exactly. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #7
She knows better. Wish that was more common. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #4
+1 BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #5
I love Hillary but I'd rather focus on people who are running. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #6
So much sexism in the world. n/t OhZone Feb 2019 #8
We didn't deserve her. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #9
Sez you. Cha Mar 2019 #18
She's the only candidate that I would commit to voting for in the primary *right now* W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #10
Hillary CAN run if she wants to; she doesn't brooklynite Feb 2019 #11
I remember seeing Bernie Sanders on Colbert, murielm99 Feb 2019 #12
omg.. BS needs to look in the mirror. Cha Mar 2019 #19
Rematches go to the original victor, but by wider margin Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #13
Great article, thank you! lunamagica Feb 2019 #14
I'd rather she didn't Trenzalore Feb 2019 #15
She could run, but will not, I'm sure. MineralMan Feb 2019 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #17
 

kimbutgar

(21,127 posts)
1. I'd vote for her again to justify how she got cheated to recify the wrong
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. Perfect illustration of just how completely insane the whole thing is.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

No more qualified human being on earth, but she would be attacked instantly EVERYWHERE

EVERYWHERE

I hope most people dont do what I am thinking about doing, tuning out. If the people on OUR SIDE (allegedly) do the damage they do then why do I bother anymore?


For instance ANYONE who says Bernie should run and Hillary shouldnt...I dont want to read that here, I better NOT read that here.

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
3. They both CAN.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

SHOULD they is a different question.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
4. She knows better. Wish that was more common.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:17 PM
Feb 2019
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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
6. I love Hillary but I'd rather focus on people who are running.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:25 PM
Feb 2019

There is no indication that she has any intention of running. If she did run I would definitely consider supporting her again.

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OhZone

(3,212 posts)
8. So much sexism in the world. n/t
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:56 PM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(297,137 posts)
18. Sez you.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:59 PM
Mar 2019

The country deserved Hillary for President.

Instead the fucking idiots helped Russia rig the Climate Change Denier in.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
10. She's the only candidate that I would commit to voting for in the primary *right now*
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:11 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
11. Hillary CAN run if she wants to; she doesn't
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:17 PM
Feb 2019

That said, I wouldn't support her in the Primary, because I think she'd again be a flawed GE candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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murielm99

(30,733 posts)
12. I remember seeing Bernie Sanders on Colbert,
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:33 PM
Feb 2019

pimping one of his many hastily written books. It was not long after the "election." He said that Hillary should sit down and be quiet.

There was no huge outcry over what he said about Hillary. Yet if ONE person suggests that BS go away, or that AOC should stop traveling for a bit and pay attention to learning her job and to her constituents, people here have a cow.

Can we debate the merits of each candidate without the nastiness of last time?

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Cha

(297,137 posts)
19. omg.. BS needs to look in the mirror.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:00 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
13. Rematches go to the original victor, but by wider margin
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:58 PM
Feb 2019

Hillary is remembered as a loser. Many people who voted for her don't admit it. It is an interesting dynamic that is always recognized by polling firms. I have seen in play out on several sports sites recently. I distinctly remember some guys who supported Hillary in 2016, but now on those forums they try to deny it or deflect it, saying they disliked Hillary but simply preferred her above Trump. I am virtually the only one who continues to champion Hillary.

Rematches to the victor is a boxing truism and it works elsewhere also. I love wagering on anti-revenge in sports. And I was always so impressed with Al Gore staying away from 2004, despite calls for him to run and assumption he would run. Gore probably understood he would get beaten in routine fashion the second time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. Great article, thank you!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
15. I'd rather she didn't
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:32 PM
Feb 2019

I'd also rather Bernie didn't either. He is just going to restart the inter party war we had and I know it is agist but I don't particularly like people in their 70s running for President.

I'd like Biden to stay out as well. That generation had their shot at leadership and it is time to let a new generation have an opportunity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
16. She could run, but will not, I'm sure.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:02 PM
Feb 2019

Why would she subject herself one more time to the heinous attacks by people purporting to be from her own Party?

By all rights, she should be sitting in the White House right now. Had some who call themselves Democrats not abandoned the party in 2016, she would be doing just that.

If I were here, I would not run again, either. I would wash my hands of politics altogether and do something else for the rest of my life.

I voted for her, because she was the legitimate Democratic nominee. I would do so again, but completely understand her unwillingness to subject herself to the calumny heaped upon her the last time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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