Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumPoll: GOP voters drawn to Biden more than other 2020 Democrats
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The Hill-HarrisX poll released Monday shows that 33 percent of GOP respondents named Biden as the Democratic candidate who came the closest to sharing their political views.
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg received the second-highest support among Republican voters at 30 percent and 28 percent thought Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) better aligned with their views.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg both garnered 26 percent of respondents who said the candidates closely shared their values.
Biden, the front-runner in most national polls, has long sought to position himself as the most electable challenger to President Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,762 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)based on whatever Joe campaigns on that would attract them, one has to ask what is the potential negative effect on votes from the party's base. That would seem a worthwhile discussion.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)you steal is worth 2 Clinton voter you might lose.
If there were 10 Trump voters and 10 Clinton voters, and candidate X convinced two of the Trump voters to cross over and doing so caused 3 of the Clinton voters to leave you end up with....
Trump: 8
Candidate X: 9
Other: 3
So, yeah....
Assuming that the most progressive voters are likely to live in very blue states and the moderate Trump voters who would switch are likely to live in swing states......It's an ever greater swing.
Besides that, Biden isn't even doing anything to attract them. He just looks like the most moderate candidate when comparing him to Trump and Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Best of luck to your candidate... and have a Happy New Year!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Autumn
(44,762 posts)start an OP on him. You know how to do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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GP6971
(31,017 posts)Welcome to DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Autumn
(44,762 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(44,762 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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dflprincess
(28,057 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
myohmy2
(3,118 posts)...something to worry about as we select our nominee...
...I wouldn't want that on my resume...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(44,762 posts)And Bernie is the best one to get them out to vote instead of sitting out the election or deflecting to another party like they did before. I can see where that gets confusing to some.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)Link to tweet
Reaching out to republicans is ok when its Bernie but outrageous when it's anyone else according to his comments
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Cha
(295,925 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)that he could attract independents who might otherwise vote Republican, and now we find it not desirable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,925 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,118 posts)...this is from the horse's mouth...
" Joe Biden was asked if he would consider choosing a Republican running mate if he is nominee for a show-of-force unity ticket:
I would Biden said..."
...our candidates should be appealing to us, not them...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,925 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)That is clear. Many independents and moderate Republicans can't stand Donald Trump.
If we nominate Biden, we will win in 2020.
And if he wins he will move progressive legislation through Congress and he will help win Congressional seats with his long coat-tails.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,698 posts)That is not good for us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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napi21
(45,806 posts)not EVERY Dem is going to vote, no matter how hard we try to get them to. If we nominate a candidate who can get the Pubs who are disgusted with DT, that's a great thing!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,698 posts)...just not Trump voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Not a good look, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,698 posts)And for following my posts so closely! It's an honor! Really!
Now, I'll celebrate with a few strong hits of a Sativa vape to keep me going!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)Like the Bushes, some Republicans know the Dotard is unfit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)Or they will vote downballot and leave president empty.
They will NOT vote for the Democratic candidate. They just won't.
Note that "being drawn to" is the phrase used, not "will vote for."
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
caraher
(6,276 posts)Nothing in this poll suggests Biden is uniquely positioned to flip votes to D from R. The poll question is this (asked for each leading candidate separately):
Choices are very closely, somewhat closely, not very closely or not closely at all. The 33% figure for Biden is the combination of the first two categories among self-identified Republicans. The lowest any Democrat listed got was Warren and Buttigieg's 26%, which isn't all that much lower (Sanders was 28%, Bloomberg 30%) in a poll listing a 3.1% margin of error.
Bear in mind that the poll offers respondents three options for party affiliation - R, D and Independent. What this result says is this: among the group most likely to vote for Trump, slightly more claim their views align with Biden than with other candidates. Reality check: those people are voting for Trump in 2020, period. The poll did not ask whether they'd consider voting for a Democrat, and in a world where Trump's approval rating is still north of 40%, these are the people who simply will not vote for us.
Turn out the Democrats and the sane independents. We win by bringing record numbers of voters to the polls, not by "persuading" people who still imagine Trump is a fit president. Those people are beyond persuasion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)1,2,3%. That is nothing almost a year out.
Although I will say, its that 3% or less that swings Wisconsin. We need to attract every Democratic vote. Whether its a puke holding his nose or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)republican and independent voters in 2008. But Biden hasn't forgotten.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)No ones base wins anyone anything. That was true for Trump too.. he was able to buffalo independents and those unaffiliated Democrats. They call themselves Democrats out of habit. The same is true for Republicans. We have to snag those people whose hearts are actually with us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)and won many states where the the primaries were open. That may be the reason for all the spleen-venting on DU and twitter. Biden is making a play for THOSE voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)those votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Quinnipiac Dec 10, https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3651
Why do Biden supporters make so many absolutist statements in a reasonably contested space?
Biden's dominance with AA voters, and Sanders with Millennials, makes little difference in the GE.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287394793
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Yes he does.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)of left of center, would come closer to a Republicans sense of her or his political viewpoint. Pelosi would come closer than Sanders, Warren, AOC etc. if the question were who comes closest, among these four Democrats.
Would answering that Pelosi comes the most close suggest she is Republican in her political positions?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)there is a rich Left tradition amongst Democrats - Warren treasures it and so does Nancy Pelosi - whatever individual policy differences they may have. Would Speaker Pelosi back M4A, if she thought she could get it through the Senate - yes - as quickly as Ted Kennedy would have. Their differences are matters of strategy, not ideology, and Pelosi is the best strategist there is.
Biden is a different kettle of fish. When he ran in 2008, he made it clear he was philosophically opposed to mandates - that was Obama's position at the time as well.
AOC's DSA, and Sanders Socialism do not fit within the Democratic Party. I know their policy positions - but the rationale of the former - class warfare - is quite different.
Warren's issue is corruption - breaking the stranglehold of money, not just on campaign financing, but on the political process. This is mainstream Dem, and has appeal across idealogical divides
"We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob ... The American people know from a four-year record that today there is only one entrance to the White Houseby the front door. Since March 4, 1933, there has been only one pass-key to the White House. I have carried that key in my pocket. It is there tonight. So long as I am President, it will remain in my pocket. Those who used to have pass-keys are not happy. Some of them are desperate." FDR
And they are desperate to keep Warren out. With his long experience in Congress, Biden is more far comfortable dealing with lobbyists and donors to get legislation through. His donors call their donors etc etc.
Sorry for this long diatribe ... I've gone off course. When I see AOC Sanders and Warren bracketed together I see .... Red.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)ideological, or share an ideology, but simply to illustrate that Republicans answer to that question, does not tell us what democratic primary contender is most like a Republican. None of our candidates hold positions similar to, allied with, friendly to or in the interests of Republicans.
Your implication that Biden is like a Republican speaks to the spin you want to put on the results.
Biden is a life-long liberal. Period.
However, he has universal appeal across a wider range of the political spectrum and among a more widely diverse demographic than many widely known democrats. He may appeal more to moderate liberal leaning independents and disenchanted Republicans than other candidates.
You are trying to make a case where you cant and then waxing offended at a case I wasnt trying to make in throwing some more left leaning political figures together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Oh...wait...maybe we do. Hmm...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)Remember the Bushes voting for her. There are Republicans who can't stand the Dotard and know he is dangerous. But that didn't help - it has to be in the swing states or its no help.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)sane republicans who couldn't stand the guy. Those republicans are now independents who likely voted for congressional democrats in 2018 as they watched their party become even more extreme.
What we need in 2020 is when a candidate in the democratic primary doesn't win the nomination, that person vocally support the presumptive democratic nominee. We didn't get that on 2016 and that has severely damaged the nation and the world.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden