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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM Dec 2019

Poll: GOP voters drawn to Biden more than other 2020 Democrats




Republican voters are more drawn to former Vice President Joe Biden than to the rest of the candidates in the crowded Democratic presidential primary field, according to a new nationwide survey.

The Hill-HarrisX poll released Monday shows that 33 percent of GOP respondents named Biden as the Democratic candidate who came the closest to sharing their political views.

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg received the second-highest support among Republican voters at 30 percent and 28 percent thought Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) better aligned with their views.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg both garnered 26 percent of respondents who said the candidates closely shared their values.

Biden, the front-runner in most national polls, has long sought to position himself as the most electable challenger to President Trump.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Poll: GOP voters drawn to Biden more than other 2020 Democrats (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2019 OP
Thx for posting Gothmog...would be great if at least some gop voters fled!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #1
Of course they are. nt Autumn Dec 2019 #2
LOL!!! pangaia Dec 2019 #3
Yeah, how is that a net positive? For every deplorable RethugliKKKon that would vote for Joe InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #6
This dflprincess Dec 2019 #13
Every Trump vote boomer_wv Dec 2019 #18
Thanx Boomer for that analysis; may hafta think a little more bout what your sayin, makes some sense InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #30
. boomer_wv Dec 2019 #36
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No, lets discuss what the OP is about. Nice to see you, if you want to discuss Bernie Autumn Dec 2019 #12
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Hmm... GP6971 Dec 2019 #15
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Fuck Republicans. They have no "crossover appeal" to me or any other Sanders supporter Autumn Dec 2019 #17
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See this? Republican voters in Vermont. In Vermont. Autumn Dec 2019 #24
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This really doesn't help. nt dflprincess Dec 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #9
I don't see it either!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #10
"Republican voters are more drawn to former Vice President Joe Biden" myohmy2 Dec 2019 #5
I hear you... see what I said above about the negative effect it could have on the party's base. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #8
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No. What you hear is Bernie appeals to Democrats and Independents in Trump country. Autumn Dec 2019 #21
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Tell that to David Sirota Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #27
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I posted the same.. Cha Dec 2019 #34
Amen, that was said to be Bernie's strength treestar Jan 2020 #59
Not like BS isn't trying for it.. Cha Dec 2019 #31
David's just a shill... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #35
Whatever.. that has nothing to do with BS wanting to Cha Dec 2019 #37
Americans like Joe Biden. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #20
So Biden, Bloomberg, or other Dems, need Repubs to win? Against Trump? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #23
Every candidate needs Dems, Pubs, & Indies to WIN! Let's not kid ourselves. napi21 Dec 2019 #29
I'd prefer we appeal to all sane citizens... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #33
Another inaccurate inference stated nowhere but your own sentiment. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #42
Thanks for agreeing that it is not a good look for Biden! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #45
Who said they needed the Republicans? treestar Jan 2020 #58
Not something to be proud of. N/T jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #32
Howdy go after that. rusty quoin Dec 2019 #38
Republican voters will vote for a Republican ArcticFox Dec 2019 #39
It is a grave error to think this translates into votes caraher Dec 2019 #40
That's what I thought... LakeArenal Jan 2020 #55
People forget how much Biden helped Obama with those crossover Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #41
Exactly!! Biden has the ability to thread the needle where others just sticking themselves. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #43
People also forget how Bernie appealed to republican voters in the primaries.. Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #44
Wins in open primaries may well have been nothing more than sabotage votes by republicans LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #49
This is true. But that didn't stop Bernie and his supporters from soliciting... Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #50
No argument. More's the pity. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #51
Joe Biden is the only candidate beating trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #46
Biden/Trump 51-42%; Sanders/Trump 51-43% crazytown Jan 2020 #48
Poll Shows Biden As The Only Democrat Who Would Defeat Trump In Virginia Gothmog Jan 2020 #61
"Biden ... came the closest to sharing their political views" crazytown Jan 2020 #47
Any candidate to the left of center on the Democratic Party spectrum, as opposed to to the left emmaverybo Jan 2020 #52
Let's be clear, crazytown Jan 2020 #54
I did not bracket them together as being all alike in the degree to which they are left leaning, emmaverybo Jan 2020 #56
Hey! We don't need no stinking Republican votes! MineralMan Jan 2020 #53
That was the case with Hillary too treestar Jan 2020 #57
The socalled progressives that voted for Trump in 2016 more than offset Blue_true Jan 2020 #60
K&R Go Joe!! nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #62
 

Thekaspervote

(32,606 posts)
1. Thx for posting Gothmog...would be great if at least some gop voters fled!!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:49 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(44,762 posts)
2. Of course they are. nt
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:50 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
6. Yeah, how is that a net positive? For every deplorable RethugliKKKon that would vote for Joe
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:06 AM
Dec 2019

based on whatever Joe campaigns on that would attract them, one has to ask what is the potential negative effect on votes from the party's base. That would seem a worthwhile discussion.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
18. Every Trump vote
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:23 AM
Dec 2019

you steal is worth 2 Clinton voter you might lose.

If there were 10 Trump voters and 10 Clinton voters, and candidate X convinced two of the Trump voters to cross over and doing so caused 3 of the Clinton voters to leave you end up with....


Trump: 8
Candidate X: 9

Other: 3

So, yeah....

Assuming that the most progressive voters are likely to live in very blue states and the moderate Trump voters who would switch are likely to live in swing states......It's an ever greater swing.

Besides that, Biden isn't even doing anything to attract them. He just looks like the most moderate candidate when comparing him to Trump and Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
30. Thanx Boomer for that analysis; may hafta think a little more bout what your sayin, makes some sense
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:04 AM
Dec 2019

Best of luck to your candidate... and have a Happy New Year!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

 

Autumn

(44,762 posts)
12. No, lets discuss what the OP is about. Nice to see you, if you want to discuss Bernie
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:13 AM
Dec 2019

start an OP on him. You know how to do that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #12)

 

GP6971

(31,017 posts)
15. Hmm...
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:20 AM
Dec 2019

Welcome to DU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to GP6971 (Reply #15)

 

Autumn

(44,762 posts)
17. Fuck Republicans. They have no "crossover appeal" to me or any other Sanders supporter
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:22 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #17)

 

Autumn

(44,762 posts)
24. See this? Republican voters in Vermont. In Vermont.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:34 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #24)

 

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
4. This really doesn't help. nt
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:04 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to dflprincess (Reply #4)

 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
10. I don't see it either!!
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:12 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

myohmy2

(3,118 posts)
5. "Republican voters are more drawn to former Vice President Joe Biden"
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:05 AM
Dec 2019

...something to worry about as we select our nominee...

...I wouldn't want that on my resume...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
8. I hear you... see what I said above about the negative effect it could have on the party's base.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:09 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #8)

 

Autumn

(44,762 posts)
21. No. What you hear is Bernie appeals to Democrats and Independents in Trump country.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:28 AM
Dec 2019

And Bernie is the best one to get them out to vote instead of sitting out the election or deflecting to another party like they did before. I can see where that gets confusing to some.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #21)

 

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
27. Tell that to David Sirota
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:45 AM
Dec 2019



Reaching out to republicans is ok when its Bernie but outrageous when it's anyone else according to his comments
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
59. Amen, that was said to be Bernie's strength
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jan 2020

that he could attract independents who might otherwise vote Republican, and now we find it not desirable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,925 posts)
31. Not like BS isn't trying for it..
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:07 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,118 posts)
35. David's just a shill...
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:30 AM
Dec 2019

...this is from the horse's mouth...


" Joe Biden was asked if he would consider choosing a Republican running mate if he is nominee for a show-of-force unity ticket:

“I would” Biden said..."


...our candidates should be appealing to us, not them...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,925 posts)
37. Whatever.. that has nothing to do with BS wanting to
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:55 AM
Dec 2019

court trump voters.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
20. Americans like Joe Biden.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:26 AM
Dec 2019

That is clear. Many independents and moderate Republicans can't stand Donald Trump.

If we nominate Biden, we will win in 2020.

And if he wins he will move progressive legislation through Congress and he will help win Congressional seats with his long coat-tails.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,698 posts)
22. So Biden, Bloomberg, or other Dems, need Repubs to win? Against Trump?
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:29 AM
Dec 2019

That is not good for us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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napi21

(45,806 posts)
29. Every candidate needs Dems, Pubs, & Indies to WIN! Let's not kid ourselves.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:57 AM
Dec 2019

not EVERY Dem is going to vote, no matter how hard we try to get them to. If we nominate a candidate who can get the Pubs who are disgusted with DT, that's a great thing!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,698 posts)
33. I'd prefer we appeal to all sane citizens...
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:15 AM
Dec 2019

...just not Trump voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. Another inaccurate inference stated nowhere but your own sentiment.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:18 AM
Dec 2019

Not a good look, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,698 posts)
45. Thanks for agreeing that it is not a good look for Biden!
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:04 AM
Dec 2019

And for following my posts so closely! It's an honor! Really!

Now, I'll celebrate with a few strong hits of a Sativa vape to keep me going!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
58. Who said they needed the Republicans?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jan 2020

Like the Bushes, some Republicans know the Dotard is unfit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
32. Not something to be proud of. N/T
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:11 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
38. Howdy go after that.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:18 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
39. Republican voters will vote for a Republican
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:54 AM
Dec 2019

Or they will vote downballot and leave president empty.

They will NOT vote for the Democratic candidate. They just won't.

Note that "being drawn to" is the phrase used, not "will vote for."

🤔

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

caraher

(6,276 posts)
40. It is a grave error to think this translates into votes
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:02 AM
Dec 2019

Nothing in this poll suggests Biden is uniquely positioned to flip votes to D from R. The poll question is this (asked for each leading candidate separately):

... how closely do they align with your personal political views?


Choices are very closely, somewhat closely, not very closely or not closely at all. The 33% figure for Biden is the combination of the first two categories among self-identified Republicans. The lowest any Democrat listed got was Warren and Buttigieg's 26%, which isn't all that much lower (Sanders was 28%, Bloomberg 30%) in a poll listing a 3.1% margin of error.

Bear in mind that the poll offers respondents three options for party affiliation - R, D and Independent. What this result says is this: among the group most likely to vote for Trump, slightly more claim their views align with Biden than with other candidates. Reality check: those people are voting for Trump in 2020, period. The poll did not ask whether they'd consider voting for a Democrat, and in a world where Trump's approval rating is still north of 40%, these are the people who simply will not vote for us.

Turn out the Democrats and the sane independents. We win by bringing record numbers of voters to the polls, not by "persuading" people who still imagine Trump is a fit president. Those people are beyond persuasion.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,729 posts)
55. That's what I thought...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jan 2020

1,2,3%. That is nothing almost a year out.

Although I will say, it’s that 3% or less that swings Wisconsin. We need to attract every Democratic vote. Whether it’s a puke holding his nose or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
41. People forget how much Biden helped Obama with those crossover
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:12 AM
Dec 2019

republican and independent voters in 2008. But Biden hasn't forgotten.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
43. Exactly!! Biden has the ability to thread the needle where others just sticking themselves.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:22 AM
Dec 2019

No ones base wins anyone anything. That was true for Trump too.. he was able to buffalo independents and those unaffiliated Democrats. They call themselves Democrats out of habit. The same is true for Republicans. We have to snag those people whose hearts are actually with us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
44. People also forget how Bernie appealed to republican voters in the primaries..
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:54 AM
Dec 2019

and won many states where the the primaries were open. That may be the reason for all the spleen-venting on DU and twitter. Biden is making a play for THOSE voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
49. Wins in open primaries may well have been nothing more than sabotage votes by republicans
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
50. This is true. But that didn't stop Bernie and his supporters from soliciting...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jan 2020

those votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
51. No argument. More's the pity.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
46. Joe Biden is the only candidate beating trump
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
48. Biden/Trump 51-42%; Sanders/Trump 51-43%
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jan 2020

Quinnipiac Dec 10, https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3651

Why do Biden supporters make so many absolutist statements in a reasonably contested space?

Biden's dominance with AA voters, and Sanders with Millennials, makes little difference in the GE.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287394793

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
61. Poll Shows Biden As The Only Democrat Who Would Defeat Trump In Virginia
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:17 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
47. "Biden ... came the closest to sharing their political views"
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jan 2020

Yes he does.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
52. Any candidate to the left of center on the Democratic Party spectrum, as opposed to to the left
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jan 2020

of left of center, would come closer to a Republican’s sense of her or his political viewpoint. Pelosi would come closer than Sanders, Warren, AOC etc. if the question were “who comes closest, among these four Democrats.

Would answering that Pelosi comes the most close suggest she is Republican in her political positions?




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
54. Let's be clear,
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jan 2020

there is a rich Left tradition amongst Democrats - Warren treasures it and so does Nancy Pelosi - whatever individual policy differences they may have. Would Speaker Pelosi back M4A, if she thought she could get it through the Senate - yes - as quickly as Ted Kennedy would have. Their differences are matters of strategy, not ideology, and Pelosi is the best strategist there is.

Biden is a different kettle of fish. When he ran in 2008, he made it clear he was philosophically opposed to mandates - that was Obama's position at the time as well.

AOC's DSA, and Sanders Socialism do not fit within the Democratic Party. I know their policy positions - but the rationale of the former - class warfare - is quite different.

Warren's issue is corruption - breaking the stranglehold of money, not just on campaign financing, but on the political process. This is mainstream Dem, and has appeal across idealogical divides

"We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob ... The American people know from a four-year record that today there is only one entrance to the White House—by the front door. Since March 4, 1933, there has been only one pass-key to the White House. I have carried that key in my pocket. It is there tonight. So long as I am President, it will remain in my pocket. Those who used to have pass-keys are not happy. Some of them are desperate." FDR

And they are desperate to keep Warren out. With his long experience in Congress, Biden is more far comfortable dealing with lobbyists and donors to get legislation through. His donors call their donors etc etc.

Sorry for this long diatribe ... I've gone off course. When I see AOC Sanders and Warren bracketed together I see .... Red.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
56. I did not bracket them together as being all alike in the degree to which they are left leaning,
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020

ideological, or share an ideology, but simply to illustrate that Republicans’ answer to that question, does not tell us what democratic primary contender is most like a Republican. None of our candidates hold positions similar to, allied with, friendly to or in the interests of Republicans.

Your implication that Biden is like a Republican speaks to the spin you want to put on the results.

Biden is a life-long liberal. Period.

However, he has universal appeal across a wider range of the political spectrum and among a more widely diverse demographic than many widely known democrats. He may appeal more to moderate liberal leaning independents and disenchanted Republicans than other candidates.

You are trying to make a case where you can’t and then waxing offended at a case I wasn’t trying to make in throwing some more left leaning political figures together.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
53. Hey! We don't need no stinking Republican votes!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jan 2020

Oh...wait...maybe we do. Hmm...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. That was the case with Hillary too
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jan 2020

Remember the Bushes voting for her. There are Republicans who can't stand the Dotard and know he is dangerous. But that didn't help - it has to be in the swing states or its no help.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. The socalled progressives that voted for Trump in 2016 more than offset
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jan 2020

sane republicans who couldn't stand the guy. Those republicans are now independents who likely voted for congressional democrats in 2018 as they watched their party become even more extreme.

What we need in 2020 is when a candidate in the democratic primary doesn't win the nomination, that person vocally support the presumptive democratic nominee. We didn't get that on 2016 and that has severely damaged the nation and the world.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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