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Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:33 PM Dec 2019

Two polls for Iowa...One poll for New Hampshire in the entire month of December...

Last time 14 polls...why so few this go around. Money -polls are expensive and the fact that people screen their calls and don't pick up the phone for unknown numbers. please note how few polls there are this go round. And none of the polls qualify for a debate.



https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/not-many-polls-in-december-for-first-states-in-democratic-primary-75772997897

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
1. Probably better off. I have a love/hate relationship with polls.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:36 PM
Dec 2019

Quality polling is very useful and informative but so many are garbage or fake and many are abused. I tend to think we are better off without them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
3. You may be right...but consider that Harris left the campaign when really we don't know the
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:56 PM
Dec 2019

state of the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,813 posts)
2. The pollster's name can show up on caller ID.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:37 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
4. I know but who recognized pollsters? And the DNC list which I have used has landlines mostly so
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019

you have no real way of calling Democrats with cell phones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,813 posts)
7. I'm a Democrat that was polled on a cell phone.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

And most of the reputable pollsters use randomly generated numbers to determine who to call, so, there is no way they can single out who is on a land line vs. who is on a cell phone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
8. then you end up calling Republicans, independents and whoever with no knowledge of the ratios...
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:35 PM
Dec 2019

Polling is not working right now...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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W_HAMILTON

(7,813 posts)
9. They account for this by the questions they ask.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:25 PM
Dec 2019

Honestly, it sounds like you could benefit from doing some research into how this sort of polling is actually conducted rather than assuming things based on your lack of knowledge on the subject. Read through the methodology of one of the reputable pollsters (Quinnipiac, for instance). It is only a page or two.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
10. I don't think it works well...and it is a disaster with GOTV...you want to call and visit your own
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 PM
Dec 2019

voters...there has to be a better way. Also, the most reliable polls are likely voter polls...and it is near impossible to have those these days...and people lie to pollsters too about who they support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
5. This has been driving me bonkers.. waiting for polls.. we have had two register polls since April I
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:18 PM
Dec 2019

think. We have had some crazy civiqs poll trying to tag itself to ISU.. but no on is giving that one the time of day.. it is an online poll... at some point, pollsters are going to have to dig down and start door knocking to get some kind of reliable info.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
6. The only poll that can measure Democratic vote accurately is one that uses addresses and people
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:24 PM
Dec 2019

ring the door bell...and that has its own issues too. In 08 and in 12 we asked...can we count on your support? and marked the addresses...everyone did this in every state...so our internals devised from this and professional pollsters were pretty good.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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