Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCould everyone please stop attacking other candidates
Everyone has their preferred candidate. I get that. But everyone needs to stop attacking their opponents. That only helps Trump and the Republicans.
Right now their are several posts on this board attacking Sanders. A few attacking Biden. And some more attacking the other candidates. This really needs to stop. One of these candidates will be our nominee. Attacks like these will only create bitterness among supporters of other candidates and we need to be fully united to beat Trump.
So please, please stop with all the attacks and negative posts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Inside the campaigns!
Our personal opinions should be posted as such but most are attributed to staffers or candidates.
We didn't learn much from 2016 I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)to making venomous attacks on the rest, and the party in general.
As long as that candidate maintains that strategy, they are fair game, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)N M
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Bidens campaign questioned Warrens calculations, calling them double talk and mathematical gymnastics and asserting that middle-class taxes would rise despite her vow.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-warren-medicare/democrat-warren-medicare-for-all-would-not-raise-u-s-middle-class-taxes-idUSKBN1XB466?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
Nice way of calling Senator Warren a liar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,096 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikeysnot
(4,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,096 posts)Which others relentlessly attack the Democratic party?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikeysnot
(4,755 posts)over 4000 pounds of evidence to send us? Hyperbole, much? I found these just in the running threads.
Biden suppporters
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=399173
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=399031
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=314341
Mayor Pete suporters.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287399002
New DU'er, posting a deleted quote via twitter
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=398652
Undecided!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=397593
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=395223
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=396303
Warren
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287392588
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,096 posts)Keep this shit up and rump will be reelected.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikeysnot
(4,755 posts)with the word PERIOD!!! after your BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Qutzupalotl
(14,230 posts)My own candidate sucks so bad I have to attack yours!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CousinIT
(9,151 posts)...new DU member, just since yesterday. Hmm...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
djg21
(1,803 posts)You have Democratic candidates (and one non-Democrat) competing against one another for the Democratic nomination. If we cannot be critical of candidates, how could there be any meaningful discussion that would help us decide on a candidate to support. I for one am really tired of all the stupid jury notices I get regarding posts that supposedly attack democratic candidates, when the discussions are fairly innocuous. Its stupid. Grow a thicker skin. Its politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gab13by13
(20,849 posts)none of our candidates are perfect but Joe has a lot of skeletons in his closet too. I don't feel the urge to attack him though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Resume that isnt so great.
No candidate is perfect, so getting snide with other peoples candidates like that is asking to have your nose rubbed in your candidates flaws.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)And I'm a Sanders supporter.
Although I am getting very tired of the droning on about Sanders not being an official Democrat. When he is one of our candidates. When one can look at more than a few "official Democrats" that side with Republicans on many key bills. One even recently jumped ship to the other side. In comparison, it's a freakin letter in front of a name FFS.
But yeah, having ones post hidden and a very involved discussion cut off instantly, even if a little heated, is frustrating as hell, and shuts down important dialogue in a place that is supposed to be a discussion board. I think it's used by some as a way to silence others who may be getting the better of them in a debate. Thin skin indeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)We need to GO BLUE.
We have wonderful candidates and I have no problem supporting the 2020 Dem slate TOTALLY.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I think it is important that people are able to express their opinions, even if that means criticizing various Democratic Presidential Candidates. There are many forums on Democratic Underground. If a person does not want to read about "attacks" or criticism about the various Democratic Candidates, that person might want to avoid the Democraic Primaries Forum.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)You can start
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)If your candidate cant handle that, then politics is not the blood sport for you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Perseus
(4,341 posts)"Legitimate criticism is not an attack." That should be a quote we all live by...well put.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Perseus
(4,341 posts)We must not fall into the MAGAT attitude that our candidate can shoot someone in daylight in the middle of fifth avenue and we are going to turn the other way, which is what I have seen a lot at DU. A gaffe is a gaffe is a gaffe no matter who made it, and we have to be critical of that action.
We must stop being fanatics of our candidates and allow ourselves critical thinking.
Bashing is sometimes an interpretation of factual news, things that we see in video which can be corroborated easily, and I believe we know what real bashing is and I agree that bashing cannot be condoned and must be rejected, but lets make sure we don't fall into trying to defend what cannot be defended, I am convinced that anyone of our candidates will beat the con, that of course will happen if the DNC is smart to place walls to prevent the cheating that we all know will come from the republicans aided by the Russians, mostly in the key states within the Electoral College. To this day I cannot understand why Democrats have not fought hard to get rid of the Electoral College, I cannot understand it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Moral Compass
(1,498 posts)Im just a lurker whose occasional opinions when posted are most often ignored, but I think the flaming of other candidates is counterproductive at best.
The excuse I often see when the attacks are on Bernie is that hes not a Democrat which totally ignores the fact that hes running as a Democrat.
Attacks on Biden and Bernie should be alerted and eliminated by the existing rules.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dansolo
(5,376 posts)He runs as a Democrat in the primary, but then switches back to Independant after he gets the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)There's a lot to be worried about. People need a way to express that fear or concern without being lit on fire as 'concern trolls' instantly.
Some fears have merit. Some we can talk out, if, and only if, we talk.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)We must stop it! I am really tired of the attacks on Sanders. The 2016 election is over folks. I want DU to retain its integrity as a good place for us to meet and that we strive for factual posts and dont attack each other or our candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(7,990 posts)a couple of the candidates need to stop attacking the Democratic Party. To me, that's even worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)We will come together but I disagree critiquing our candidates helps traitor trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(152,963 posts)really tired of hearing we have to take the position that a candidate can do no wrong - it is ridiculous
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Never in a million tears would I give Gabbard, aka Jill Stein wannabe, a pass on her nonsense
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(152,963 posts)and there are others besides those two - one of whom I absolutely DETEST
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
David__77
(23,213 posts)That is, so-and-so has done something, and so it's right or needed that I do something else. I'm fairly confident that there are a lot of narratives that can be created that would be pretty toxic to any of the candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Grasswire2
(13,564 posts)It's against DU rules.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
defacto7
(13,485 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(80,693 posts)from trump.
We should ALL be focused on THAT.
The Democratic candidate one attacks today could be the Democratic nominee tomorrow.
And yes, I need that reminder myself, every time Bernies name comes up (along with my hackles).
I frankly dont care that much who our nominee is. I have already vowed to support and to vote for that candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,677 posts)Everyone what many of us have been saying for months. It is just doing the Republicans work for them! Every single candidate should be hammering Trump non stop.
Pick things they cant defend him against. Him being fined for his scam university, him being fined for running a scam foundation, etc. Things that show him to be a con artist and no more than a common criminal mastermind...He keeps saying the same things over and over an soon people believe him. Do the same to him but louder and more often and see how the likes it..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,122 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:21 AM - Edit history (1)
We are doing their work for them, as well as for the rethug and Russian bots on social media... just grab an attack here and post it anywhere.
And what benefit does it serve on DU?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dansolo
(5,376 posts)*crickets*
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Dems should know the difference between good faith politicking and bad faith smear attempts. With Iowa coming up in just a month it's not too early to consider the tone we're using against our front runners.
Any one of them could be the candidate we'll all be voting for in November and we need to imagine Trump using divisions we create in the present time against us later.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)At the end of the day, my guess is that less than 10% of the criticisms are valid, relevant and telling; the rest is simply throwing crap at the wall hoping it sticks.. that pitched crap followed quickly by a "this doesn't look for candidate X" or "Disqualifying!!!"
It's the primaries. It's the form. Our sacred cows need the faithful flock to gnash teeth, rend garments and yell righteously at the rain not to fall on our bumper stickers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
defacto7
(13,485 posts)and debate the position. I don't care about someone's op-ed about a candidate's personal life or spreading misinformation or twisted facts, that's manipulation. I don't care if the info comes from a campaign or not; they can be the worst offenders.
On vetting: The vetting should be done before it's posted here. We don't need this to be a sandbox turned litter box. We end up defending against false information more than discussing real issues and opinions.
We need to ask, what is going to educate us vs. what is going to divide us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,122 posts)Dizzying constant fistfights and spitting in faces. Degenerative. Yet it continues without regard to its negative impact on the quality of the DU community.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thisaintright
(15 posts)and this is why...just got back from a week's long journey from the northeast down through W. Virginia, down through NC, 3 days in the Orlando theme parks and then back up through GA and SC, NC and VA visiting some historic/military sites all along the way.
And here's what I didn't see...not a single maga hat, t-shirt or bumper sticker...nor any flags flying...this includes multiple hops off I-95 traffic in the back roads of NC and GA. Nothing!
...what this tells me is that folks are figuring out that their guy ain't really their guy anymore and are afraid to show it and though many may still vote R for POTUS next year in secret because of some BS family tree guilt they have to deal with, I think a lot are having their lights turned on of late and realizing what's at stake. My 2 cents anyway...
So, lets have respectful discourse about our slate of candidates but keep cool with anything vicious because the tide is turning, my friends. We just have to keep at it to make sure nothing is left to chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(152,963 posts)people need to be called out for any serious errors of judgement
THIS IS AMERICA
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Beginning to sound like you do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Getting rid off Trump is and should be the priority. We cant afford purity tests this election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
muriel_volestrangler
(101,146 posts)That would be the least you can do, if you're asking others to respect all Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Dont recall ever attacking her. And didnt realize she was running for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
muriel_volestrangler
(101,146 posts)or there's this:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212514053#post6
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)how is noting that she owes Pelosi an apology for calling her a racist an attack? Or offering her advice to pick her battles more wisely an attack?
And when did she start running for President?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
muriel_volestrangler
(101,146 posts)but you were happy to attack a Democrat (when, just as with candidates' supporters, it's in favour of another Democrat), and what was worse, to help a libertarian against a Democrat.
Are you saying you only respect Democrats who run for president? Do you care nothing for the House? Because you are saying that's your excuse.
If you'd turned over a new leaf, that'd be fine. But you're unrepentant about the Ocasio Cortez attacks, after you've put yourself forward as being in favour of party unity.
I'm not sure you get this 'party' thing. You accuse party members of having "ideological blinders", and when asked to explain what on earth you're going on about, use the insulting and pointless "If I have to tell you you won't get it" crap. Without ever saying what the point was, apart from causing arguments.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and Im not sure why.
And nothing I said was an attack, unless you think that Nancy Pelosi is a racist. Do you?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
muriel_volestrangler
(101,146 posts)Give me a break - you have been looking for fights in all your threads. We had that "draw your own conclusions" BS about your "polls" of how many supporters of different candidates bothered replying to your threads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Do you think Nancy Pelosi is a racist?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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marble falls
(56,353 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,119 posts)for having fundraisers or taking donations from people who have jobs with corporations, and is being hypocritical, hell yes I will attack them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,972 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,118 posts)...I think philosophical differences create the bitterness...but that's what primaries are supposed to iron out...
...I think you're worrying too much...
...even the most adamant Bernie or Biden supporter knows any one of our candidate's a 1000 times better than a trump...
...in the end, we'll all be working to defeat trump, guaranteed...
...but in the meantime......
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Prosper
(761 posts)everywhere and he keeps on gaining.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Prosper
(761 posts)name from all discussions. Glaringly highlighted by his polling and fund raising. Not a doubt in my mind that a huge segment doesnt want to see lower classes elevated in any way. Contrast this with the embarrassment projected when the MSM is forced to report the 2% tax threatening the benefactors of Trumps wealth redistribution law of 2017.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided