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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:08 PM Mar 2019

Bernie Sanders Article On Vox

I know that there has been some discussion here of Bernie Sanders' support, or lack of support, from people of color, women, and other demographic groups. I was wondering how much of that was anecdotal and how much of that might be supported by polling data.

I found an interesting article on Vox that addresses that subject, in part. I was wondering what people here at DU might think about the subject and the article. The article is titled "Bernie Sanders' base is diverse- and very young." Here is a link:

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/7/18216899/bernie-sanders-bro-base-polling-2020-president

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Bernie Sanders Article On Vox (Original Post) Progressive2020 Mar 2019 OP
Thank you for posting the article. CentralMass Mar 2019 #1
We don't see the diversity BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #2
Do You Have A Source? Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #3
It come's from looking at the pictures and tweets from people like Watson who blur the faces Autumn Mar 2019 #4
Not Sure What This Post Is About Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #6
Watson tweeted how there were only white people at the rally. He blurred out faces of POC. Autumn Mar 2019 #8
I Still Do Not Understand Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #9
Click on the link I provided and you should be able to get the answers to you questions. nt Autumn Mar 2019 #10
They saw pictures. aidbo Mar 2019 #5
From the Washington Post Gothmog Mar 2019 #11
The Article Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #7
Here is the difficulty I have reading articles like this. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #12
I Understand Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #13
"I trust that they are representing the data properly. " WeekiWater Mar 2019 #14
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
1. Thank you for posting the article.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:22 PM
Mar 2019
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
2. We don't see the diversity
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:25 PM
Mar 2019

in the people who attend the rallies. They are almost 100% white.

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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
3. Do You Have A Source?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:42 PM
Mar 2019

Do you have a source backing up this assertion, or is it just an opinion? Where are you getting this information? Have you spent a lot of time observing the crowds at Sanders rallies? Has any Political Scientist done a count or study on this question? If not, you are dealing with anecdotal evidence at best.

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Autumn

(44,980 posts)
4. It come's from looking at the pictures and tweets from people like Watson who blur the faces
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:05 PM
Mar 2019

in the crowd. Watson seems to crop up occasionally.


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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
6. Not Sure What This Post Is About
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

Someone blurred some pictures of people at a Sanders Rally. Why? What is it supposed to mean? I am not clear on what the point of the post was. Can you explain it more plainly?

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Autumn

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8. Watson tweeted how there were only white people at the rally. He blurred out faces of POC.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:10 AM
Mar 2019
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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
9. I Still Do Not Understand
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 AM
Mar 2019

Who is Watson? Why is he blurring out the faces of POC? Is he anti-Sanders, pro-Sanders, or something else?

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Autumn

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10. Click on the link I provided and you should be able to get the answers to you questions. nt
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:36 AM
Mar 2019
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Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
11. From the Washington Post
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:51 PM
Mar 2019



NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. — The crowd packed into the gym of a century-old black church here cheered every time Sen. Bernie Sanders attacked inequities that hit disadvantaged African Americans especially hard, applauding his ideas to address “the disparity within the disparity.”

But the problem Sanders faces in appealing to black voters was staring at him as he spoke for an hour recently at the gym of the Royal Missionary Baptist Church: Of the more than 1,600 people who came to see the candidate, fewer than 40 were black.....

Black voters played a critical role in picking the last two Democratic nominees, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and it’s hard to see a path to the Democratic nomination without significant black support.

About 25 percent of Democratic primary voters in 2016 were African American, and in key states, including South Carolina, the figure was much higher.
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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
7. The Article
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:58 PM
Mar 2019

I appreciate that some people have posted here, but I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on the article. I think that it is worth a read. It contains polling information regarding the Sanders Campaign.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
12. Here is the difficulty I have reading articles like this.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

The article says "Sanders is more popular with people of color than white people, and women like Sanders as much as men do, if not more."

Lets take the first part of that sentence. It tells you so little nothing can be determined from it. So I then went to the poll that led them to write the sentence in that manner. It is over 330 pages. I'm not going to even look through the Index to find the information.

Now lets look at the second part. It is in conflict with itself. Do they like him as much or more? Do they even like him? Again, 330 page poll to look at. The sentence itself is truly meaningless as it stands.

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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
13. I Understand
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:54 PM
Mar 2019

I did not read the underlying documentation either, but Vox is a legitimate news source. I trust that they are representing the data properly.

Most people do not have the time to dig I into detailed studies and polls. We have to find news sources that are reliable. I think that Vox is reliable. Your experience might be different.

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WeekiWater

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14. "I trust that they are representing the data properly. "
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:11 PM
Mar 2019

I agree with you, overall, when it comes to VOX. That is why I point out how empty that sentence is. It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of writing sentences that are meaningless. Which many of the sentences in the article are. It is not a factual thesis.

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