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TexasTowelie

(112,160 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:16 AM Mar 2019

As Harris draws crowds, some ask: Can only Beto turn Texas blue?

FORT WORTH -- California Democrat Kamala Harris is in Texas this weekend winning some Democrats’ hearts.

But in a state where no Democratic candidate for president has won in nearly half a century, the party’s success might still rely on El Paso Democrat Beto O’Rourke’s volunteer force and money.

In 2016, the last time Democrats didn’t have O’Rourke on the statewide ballot, presidential nominee Hillary Clinton lost by 9 points. Yet when O’Rourke spent $80 million in 2018, Democrats flipped more than a dozen seats in federal and state offices.

National candidates might say the 2020 election won’t be about wealth, money or privilege.

Read more: https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-kennedy/article228327964.html

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As Harris draws crowds, some ask: Can only Beto turn Texas blue? (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2019 OP
Assumes facts not it evidence FBaggins Mar 2019 #1
Here's the facts in evidence itsrobert Mar 2019 #2
That's "slightly purple" FBaggins Mar 2019 #4
It's incremental change itsrobert Mar 2019 #5
Exactly.. some just don't realize how phenomenal this was.. Cha Mar 2019 #9
Beto flipped this county in November dalton99a Mar 2019 #10
I was thinking the same thing. Cruz is a huge jerk and still won. Texas has issues. dem4decades Mar 2019 #3
In BOTH cases, crowds do not translate to vote... brooklynite Mar 2019 #6
that is for sure, and that was exemplified in 2016 still_one Mar 2019 #7
Beto almost beat cruz by Cha Mar 2019 #8
The Democrats Trump Fears Most Gothmog Mar 2019 #11
 

FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
1. Assumes facts not it evidence
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:21 AM
Mar 2019

Beto couldn’t turn TX blue... and arguably the only reason he came close is because Cruz was his opponent.

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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
2. Here's the facts in evidence
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:25 AM
Mar 2019

"In 2018, Democrats flipped more than a dozen seats in federal and state offices. "

Are you saying that is not turning TX blue?

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FBaggins

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4. That's "slightly purple"
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:29 AM
Mar 2019

Turning a state blue implies winning statewide races or majorities in the state legislature. “Picking up seats” is not turning a state blue.

The House delegation from TX is 23-10 Red.

and, of course, Beto was hardly the only factor in TX elections last year.

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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
5. It's incremental change
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:39 AM
Mar 2019

a very positive thing. The word "turning" is different than "turned" Turning is usually in the process. Turned is it already has happened. Nothing in the article says Beto has turned Texas blue. It basically asking a question, "Can only Beto turn Texas blue?" The evidence is that Texas has picked up some blue seats with Beto bringing in new voters to the Democrats.

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
9. Exactly.. some just don't realize how phenomenal this was..
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:22 AM
Mar 2019

How the race between Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke became the closest in Texas in 40 years


“Who?”

That was the reaction back in late 2016 from former Houston Mayor Annise Parker when she first heard that a sophomore Democratic congressman from El Paso named Beto O’Rourke was mulling a challenge to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. Parker, like most other Texans, had absolutely no clue who O’Rourke was, or why she should take seriously his potential entry into a race that many Democrats viewed as a suicide mission.

Almost exactly two years later, O'Rourke fell roughly 220,000 votes short out of 8.3 million of unseating Cruz, closer to winning a statewide office than any Texas Democrat in a generation. The strength of his candidacy helped Texas Democrats pick up two U.S. House seats, two state Senate seats and a dozen state House seats
.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/09/ted-cruz-beto-orourke-closest-texas-race-40-years/
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dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
10. Beto flipped this county in November
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:48 AM
Mar 2019

Tarrant County, which includes Fort Worth, was solid Republican. It was a big wake-up call for the GOP

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dem4decades

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3. I was thinking the same thing. Cruz is a huge jerk and still won. Texas has issues.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:25 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
6. In BOTH cases, crowds do not translate to vote...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:09 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,187 posts)
7. that is for sure, and that was exemplified in 2016
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:11 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
8. Beto almost beat cruz by
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:19 AM
Mar 2019

less 3%. And, his fundraising and campaigning was phenomenal!

How the race between Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke became the closest in Texas in 40 years


“Who?”

That was the reaction back in late 2016 from former Houston Mayor Annise Parker when she first heard that a sophomore Democratic congressman from El Paso named Beto O’Rourke was mulling a challenge to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. Parker, like most other Texans, had absolutely no clue who O’Rourke was, or why she should take seriously his potential entry into a race that many Democrats viewed as a suicide mission.

Almost exactly two years later, O'Rourke fell roughly 220,000 votes short out of 8.3 million of unseating Cruz, closer to winning a statewide office than any Texas Democrat in a generation. The strength of his candidacy helped Texas Democrats pick up two U.S. House seats, two state Senate seats and a dozen state House seats
.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/09/ted-cruz-beto-orourke-closest-texas-race-40-years/

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Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
11. The Democrats Trump Fears Most
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:41 PM
Mar 2019

trump is worried about three possible Democratic nominees https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/24/the-democrats-trump-fears-most/

“President Trump has publicly boasted that he could beat any of his 2020 Democratic challengers. But privately, several members of the Trump campaign see a few who could pose a threat to his re-election, and are in the early stages of building out their strategy for attack,” Axios reports.

“The three candidates that seem to concern the Trump campaign most are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Beto O’Rourke. That’s in no particular order, and you’ll get a different answer depending on who you talk to.”

I think that any of these three could turn Texas blue
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