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Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:36 AM

 

Andrew Yang: "I agree with proceeding with impeachment - it's the right thing to do. But..."




You can think something will have disastrous consequences while still thinking it's the right thing to do.

Pretty sure his point is the same as it's been the whole time: Candidates should focus on promoting their vision to the voters. Those involved in the impeachment should do their jobs.

He's been saying this for months. It's unfortunate that this is coming back up again. It really affects nothing but as you saw it's something that can be used to stir up a bunch of pointless arguing.

The house will proceed and the Senate will next. The rest of this is sound and fury.
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Reply Andrew Yang: "I agree with proceeding with impeachment - it's the right thing to do. But..." (Original post)
redqueen Dec 2019 OP
MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #1
honest.abe Dec 2019 #2
redqueen Dec 2019 #4
Dopers_Greed Dec 2019 #3
redqueen Dec 2019 #6
SKKY Dec 2019 #5
JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #9
cwydro Dec 2019 #15
JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #7
redqueen Dec 2019 #11
JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #16
redqueen Dec 2019 #17
George II Dec 2019 #8
JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #10
redqueen Dec 2019 #12
BlueWI Dec 2019 #13
redqueen Dec 2019 #14
Name removed Dec 2019 #18

Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:39 AM

1. Fuck the pResident's base.

 

They are already polarized and galvanized. There is nothing that will bring them back to sanity except getting that piece of shit off the stage.
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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:42 AM

2. Its impossible to predict what Trumps' base will do or not do.

 

They are driven by hate, anger, racism, bigotry fueled by false information from RW media.

We cant let people like that affect what we should do.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:45 AM

3. So "Let bygones be bygones"?

 

See how well that worked out for Obama.

Republicans ended up completely taking over the country in no time, and are now destroying it.
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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:46 AM

6. Who are you quoting?

 

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:46 AM

5. I'm not concerned with the President's "Base"...

 

I'm concerned with the nearly 9 million 2012 Obama voters who voted for Trump in 2016. That's who I care about.
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Response to SKKY (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:53 AM

9. I'm concerned with the

 

65 million that voted for Clinton - but who lost due to the Electoral College.
The 4.8 million disgruntled Republicans that voted for Johnson/Weld - I grew up with some of those people and they HATE Donald Trump and now live in places like NC, Florida, NV, and Arizona.
I'm concerned about the 1.4 million that voted for Jill Stein.
I'm concerned about the 730K that voted for Evan McMullin
I'm concerned about the 2600 votes cast for Kasich

That's 71 Million active voters in 2016.

Let's win this thing.
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:48 PM

15. This.

 

+1
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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:48 AM

7. One - I've donated to his campaign

 

Along with many others.

But on this - I agree with him.

I'm a local Democratic Committee member serving a two year duly elected term.

We've flipped our Borough (County Seat), sent Bob Menendez back to DC, Elected Phil Murphy Governor, and re-elected two Assembly members just last month - and flipped the 7th district seat held by GOP for DECADES.

Polarization has been good in the 7th District of NJ.

See - I disagree with Andy on the end result.

The senate NOT voting to Impeach (and I hope they don't) is going to make it a piece of cake to get Tom re-elected. And - Hope the articles of impeachment piss off the guy who called me a "nigger", while wearing a MAGA cap, and told me "this is revenge" the day after the 2016 election.

I hope it makes he and his ilk realize - they are dinosaurs who will be in the shoes I've walked in - for 46 years - in about 15 or 20. I HOPE they are pissed.

And I hope it PISSES off good solid LOYAL Americans next year - pisses them off to vote those fucking bastards out of office.

And I'm glad to see you posting again.
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:54 AM

11. I can see your point

 

The view from here in N Texas where I'd love to see areas turn blue or at least more purple is a little different.

And thanks
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Response to redqueen (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:57 PM

16. Your welcome

 

I should note - we are SLOWLY turning purple. We now have 600 registered Democrats in our borough - up 25% from 2017. It takes time - but time is on our side redqueen.

And - I'm STILL the only black person in shop rite on a Sunday morning!
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 01:19 PM

17. True, slowly but surely we will get there.

 


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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:53 AM

8. Sadly nothing will cause anyone in trump's "base" to go elsewhere, regardless of what we do...

 

Entering WWII under the circumstances at the time was the right think to do, and we knew it would have disastrous consequences. But it couldn't have been avoided.
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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:54 AM

10. Exactly George

 

They are his ride or die.
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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:58 AM

12. I disagree.

 

Several polls this year have shown his support dropping among republican and independent voters. Not sure if that's changed.
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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

13. Thanks for posting this.

 

It clarifies the pot-stirring OP posted yesterday which implied that Yang was entirely against impeachment.

I agree with Yang that in addition to protecting the Constitution, we need a more fundamental take home message for the contested states. Younger voters and rural voters are at risk to stay home if the economic messages amount to business as usual, tinkering with tax rates and interest rates, and infrastructure bills that don't meet the level of need. Yang has an outstanding analysis of current economic issues.

I'm still undecided between Warren, Yang, Booker and Sanders, and I appreciate Yang's presence in the race.
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Response to BlueWI (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:45 PM

14. Thanks. Wish the pot stirring OP wasn't more popular.

 

Some people like just like drama
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