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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:00 PM Dec 2019

Chuck Todd: "Kamala's proof if you haven't dreamed of being president your whole life, don't do it"

Yes. He said that.

We all know that if she HAD behaved as if she wanted to be president her whole life, she'd have been "too ambitious."

Kimberly Atkins countered with an excellent point. "How many times have you heard someone say, 'I like Kamala Harris, but I don't think a black woman can win in this environment.' or 'I like Kamala Harris, but I'm not sure people will vote for a black woman.' We need to be willing to acknowledge the role those 'buts.' played in this race."

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Chuck Todd: "Kamala's proof if you haven't dreamed of being president your whole life, don't do it" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP
Todd can be entirely irrational at times. George II Dec 2019 #1
Yes, exactly. redqueen Dec 2019 #2
so how was her polling in SC among various demographics? nt msongs Dec 2019 #3
He is the personification of unearned smugness BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #4
JFC.... Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #5
Fact is, she ran out of money. That's what is so f..d up about the political system. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #6
Yep. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #12
His lack of self-awareness is showing bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #7
lack of self awareness jcgoldie Dec 2019 #11
IKR?! StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #14
re: "not sure people will vote for a black woman" thesquanderer Dec 2019 #8
Well guess what. Toads buddy the orange fat ass didn't dream of being President all his life. Autumn Dec 2019 #9
Kamala lacked a coherent message and went after Biden in the most disingenuous way possible. IluvPitties Dec 2019 #10
Chuck Toad. Authority on nothing. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #13
Thank You, Senator Harris! corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #15
I think Chuck Todd likes to see how many stupid things he can say... Sloumeau Dec 2019 #16
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Todd can be entirely irrational at times.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:03 PM
Dec 2019
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redqueen

(115,096 posts)
2. Yes, exactly.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:03 PM
Dec 2019

You can't win with certain media types, and he definitely is one.

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msongs

(67,334 posts)
3. so how was her polling in SC among various demographics? nt
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:08 PM
Dec 2019
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BeyondGeography

(39,339 posts)
4. He is the personification of unearned smugness
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:08 PM
Dec 2019
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Docreed2003

(16,844 posts)
5. JFC....
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:09 PM
Dec 2019

I have no doubt that Todd has zero concept of the amount of privilege he exhibited with that comment

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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
6. Fact is, she ran out of money. That's what is so f..d up about the political system.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:09 PM
Dec 2019

And everyone goes around saying we have to save our ''Democracy''. It's gone bye bye a long time ago. Corporate America and BigMoney killed it.

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bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
7. His lack of self-awareness is showing
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

He immediately confronts Democratic positions. He is a shining example of the Peter Principle.

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jcgoldie

(11,603 posts)
11. lack of self awareness
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:28 PM
Dec 2019

I'm constantly floored by the fact that he anchors a daily media show about politics and fails to see the irony in spending half his time bemoaning the fact that 'Democrats just aren't getting their message across' and 'people just don't think the facts are important'... hello McFly whos fucking job is it to get the message about the facts to people if not you? People only care about the politics because people like Chuck Todd ONLY talk about the politics.

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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
8. re: "not sure people will vote for a black woman"
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:16 PM
Dec 2019

Her polling did hit 20. There were plenty of people willing to vote for her. She wasn't able to capitalize on the success she'd started to have.

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Autumn

(44,956 posts)
9. Well guess what. Toads buddy the orange fat ass didn't dream of being President all his life.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:20 PM
Dec 2019

The whole fucking truth right here.

"How many times have you heard someone say, 'I like Kamala Harris, but I don't think a black woman can win in this environment.' or 'I like Kamala Harris, but I'm not sure people will vote for a black woman.' We need to be willing to acknowledge the role those 'buts.' played in this race."
And lets add the media to that too. The media who spent time on people that had no business being in the race.
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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
10. Kamala lacked a coherent message and went after Biden in the most disingenuous way possible.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:21 PM
Dec 2019

I like her for VP or AG, but it is what it is.

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LakeArenal

(28,785 posts)
13. Chuck Toad. Authority on nothing.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:57 PM
Dec 2019

Especially Democrats.
I take his opinion exactly as I do Meghan Mc Cain’s. She’s just more interesting than he.

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
15. Thank You, Senator Harris!
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:16 PM
Dec 2019

I concur with the outrage here. Harris' reply on Twitter was perfect.

As a Berner, I would like to state for the record my gratitude to Senator Harris for contributing to the process markedly.


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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
16. I think Chuck Todd likes to see how many stupid things he can say...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:27 PM
Dec 2019

in a single hour. He's easily the worst host on MSNBC. Does his comment mean if Kamala's been dreaming of becoming President since she was 8, but someone else has been dreaming since they were six, she was destined to lose? At what age was it too late to dream? What a pointless comment, Chuck Todd.

I watched Todd a little today but I chose to stop watching when Todd and his panel were saying that the Democrats should not impeach until they looked under every rock. Todd and Company were acting as if the Democrats were completely finished investigating--apparently not realizing that this was just a resting point for the Intelligence Committee while they hand their report to the Judiciary Committee. Everyone on Todd's panel acted like the Democrats were completely finished investigating. What a clueless bunch Todd and his guests are.

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