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Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,160 posts)that is used in association with his campaign? It's a mistake, but doesn't Omar have enough real problems--both on the job and in her family--that this non-story is really inconsequential?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)----
The blowback came immediately. Devine, who has not endorsed a candidate yet in the presidential election, told The Intercept that she did not intend her support for the plan to be read as an endorsement for Buttigiegs candidacy, and believes the campaign was intentionally vague about the way it was presented.
Clearly from the number of calls I received about my endorsement, I think the way they put it out there wasnt clear, that it was an endorsement of the plan, and that may have been intentionally vague. Im political, I know how that works, she said. I do think they probably put it out there thinking people wouldnt read the fine print or wouldnt look at the details or even contact the people and say, Hey, youre endorsing Mayor Pete?
Asked if she knew if any of the black supporters of the plan were also supporters of Buttigieg, she said she wasnt sure. The only ones I really knew were me and Rep. Thigpen, she said. I dont know many actually, now that I think about it, other than the folks working on Mayor Petes campaign, I dont know of any local elected officials who have endorsed him yet.
Thigpen, meanwhile, has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president, and was startled when he learned the campaign had not only attached his name to the plan, but also listed him as one of three prominent supporters atop the letter.
How it was rolled out was not an accurate representation of where I stand, Thigpen told The Intercept. I didnt know about its rolling out. Somebody brought it to my attention, and it was alarming to me, because even though I had had conversations with the campaign, it was clear to me, or at least I thought I made it clear to them, that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter actually co-chair of the state, and I was not seeking to endorse their candidate or the plan. But what I had talked about was potentially giving them a quote of support in continuing the conversation, because I do think its a very important conversation.
https://theintercept.com/2019/11/15/pete-buttigieg-campaign-black-voters/
I guess this is a non-story but I doubt it would be a non-story if it was Bernie Sanders with fake endorsements.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)It only pretends, sometimes, to be a progressive publication. Greenwald is a libertarian. There's a difference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Greenwald is a columnist who gives his own opinions -- I don't agree with him 100% of the time but he has been consistent since the Bush administration. He may be libertarian when it comes to NSA spying but not sure if he is libertarian when it comes to deregulation and private businesses.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)doesn't make it reliable.
And Greenwald is a libertarian, not a Democrat -- and not just with regard to spying.
https://www.vox.com/2016/9/15/12853236/glenn-greenwald-trump-clinton
From Sept. 2016:
Why Glenn Greenwald relentlessly attacks Hillary Clinton even if it helps Donald Trump
Greenwald rejects the whole framework of the question. In an interview on Friday, Greenwald and I talked about the Clinton Foundation, the Intercepts place in 2016 campaign coverage, and why Greenwald thinks the media shouldnt let its fear of Trump temper the firepower it trains on Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I love sources like The Intercept because they criticize both Republicans & Democrats. MSNBC has been going downhill ever since they hired Andrew Lack.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)who might do good work. But that doesn't make The Intercept a reliable publication.
It was no accident that they were so much more critical of Hillary than Trump throughout the campaign. Just like Fox.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)When an independent news source publishes information that is critical of Hillary Clinton is not helping or hurting someone. It is just publishing news.
This is what Obama's camp had to say about Clinton's campaign
"She was the one who could not translate his strong record and healthy economy into a winning message," wrote Baker about the Obama camp's view of Clinton's campaign.
"Never mind that Trump essentially ran the same playbook against Clinton that Obama did eight years earlier, portraying her as a corrupt exemplar of the status quo.
"She brought many of her troubles on herself. No one forced her to underestimate the danger in the Midwest states of Wisconsin and Michigan. No one forced her to set up a private email server that would come back to haunt her.
"No one forced her to take hundreds of thousands of dollars from Goldman Sachs and other pillars of Wall Street for speeches. No one forced her to run a scripted, soulless campaign that tested eighty-five slogans before coming up with 'Stronger Together.'"
https://www.newsweek.com/obama-blames-hillary-clinton-losing-trump-2016-book-1413757
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,486 posts)Those quotes are from Peter Baker from The New York Times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,486 posts)Now the press is totally fine. I heard they did black-outs and such.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,799 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)He has tons of supporters. There's no reason to try and fake them. Yet...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,343 posts)If you had bothered to read more in depth, you would have seen there were no 'fake' supporters. The campaign sent out multiple emails advising the people involved that they were going to do a roll-out and if they did not want to be associated with it,they needed to let them know.
It probably was not handled the best by his South Carolina director, as I would have rolled with an opt-in versus opt-out methodology, but it is what it is. Pete stood up and took responsibility, which is part of being a leader.
None of that goes to my reply anyway. Always negative to all other Dems and our Party, always selling completely non-passable ponies and rainbows. The nation is too artificially spun to right on an electoral footprint to pass most all of the far left (far left for the US, milquetoast centrist in Europe where I live atm) agenda pushed by the Sanderites, let alone win an election upon that said agenda.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)Therefore: fake. The campaign deserves to be criticized for being lazy, at least.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Its advertisement. Its not a big deal unless they're also faked as actual people quoted. But everyone gets pissed at their own level too.
Omar has far bigger problems than this silliness.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden