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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Nov 2019 OP
Such silliness! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #1
So are we supposed to believe that Bernie verifies the origins of every photo TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #2
I don't think Bernie Sanders has fake endorsements JonLP24 Nov 2019 #6
Could you find a better source than Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept? pnwmom Nov 2019 #7
Grim is the one who broke the story so any other story would reference The Intercept's reporting JonLP24 Nov 2019 #8
Other sources can CONFIRM the reporting. Just because The Intercept was the first pnwmom Nov 2019 #9
The Intercept employs people like Mehdi Hasan who I have great respect for JonLP24 Nov 2019 #10
The Intercept helped elect Donald Trump. Just like Fox news, it employs certain individuals pnwmom Nov 2019 #11
We live in an era of hyper partisan ideologically driven news JonLP24 Nov 2019 #12
No, that was not what Obama's camp had to say about Clinton's campaign. betsuni Nov 2019 #13
Who reported what they had to say JonLP24 Nov 2019 #14
Oh, now the corporate media conglomerate is reliable. betsuni Nov 2019 #15
This is a big nothing. RandySF Nov 2019 #3
How is it her problem that Buttigieg's campaign is using fake endorsements? JonLP24 Nov 2019 #4
Oh, it's like that Colombian woman whose stock photo was on the ACA website. betsuni Nov 2019 #5
all Sanders and his sphere have are negative attacks and pipedreams nt Celerity Nov 2019 #16
Shit like this makes me lose respect for Buttigieg BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #17
Welcome to DU Celerity Nov 2019 #18
"Stock photo of a Kenyan woman" doesn't sound like a real SC supporter of Buttigieg. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #20
1st- everyone gets caught using stock photos. 2nd- DU goes shit crazy when the GOP does it. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #19
 

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
1. Such silliness!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:26 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TexasTowelie

(112,160 posts)
2. So are we supposed to believe that Bernie verifies the origins of every photo
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:28 AM
Nov 2019

that is used in association with his campaign? It's a mistake, but doesn't Omar have enough real problems--both on the job and in her family--that this non-story is really inconsequential?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. I don't think Bernie Sanders has fake endorsements
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:44 AM
Nov 2019

----

The blowback came immediately. Devine, who has not endorsed a candidate yet in the presidential election, told The Intercept that she did not intend her support for the plan to be read as an endorsement for Buttigieg’s candidacy, and believes the campaign was “intentionally vague” about the way it was presented.

“Clearly from the number of calls I received about my endorsement, I think the way they put it out there wasn’t clear, that it was an endorsement of the plan, and that may have been intentionally vague. I’m political, I know how that works,” she said. “I do think they probably put it out there thinking people wouldn’t read the fine print or wouldn’t look at the details or even contact the people and say, ‘Hey, you’re endorsing Mayor Pete?’”

Asked if she knew if any of the black supporters of the plan were also supporters of Buttigieg, she said she wasn’t sure. “The only ones I really knew were me and Rep. Thigpen,” she said. “I don’t know many — actually, now that I think about it, other than the folks working on Mayor Pete’s campaign, I don’t know of any local elected officials who have endorsed him yet.”

Thigpen, meanwhile, has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president, and was startled when he learned the campaign had not only attached his name to the plan, but also listed him as one of three prominent supporters atop the letter.

“How it was rolled out was not an accurate representation of where I stand,” Thigpen told The Intercept. “I didn’t know about its rolling out. Somebody brought it to my attention, and it was alarming to me, because even though I had had conversations with the campaign, it was clear to me, or at least I thought I made it clear to them, that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter — actually co-chair of the state, and I was not seeking to endorse their candidate or the plan. But what I had talked about was potentially giving them a quote of support in continuing the conversation, because I do think it’s a very important conversation.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/11/15/pete-buttigieg-campaign-black-voters/

I guess this is a non-story but I doubt it would be a non-story if it was Bernie Sanders with fake endorsements.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. Could you find a better source than Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept?
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:26 AM
Nov 2019

It only pretends, sometimes, to be a progressive publication. Greenwald is a libertarian. There's a difference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. Grim is the one who broke the story so any other story would reference The Intercept's reporting
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:30 AM
Nov 2019

Greenwald is a columnist who gives his own opinions -- I don't agree with him 100% of the time but he has been consistent since the Bush administration. He may be libertarian when it comes to NSA spying but not sure if he is libertarian when it comes to deregulation and private businesses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
9. Other sources can CONFIRM the reporting. Just because The Intercept was the first
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:43 AM
Nov 2019

doesn't make it reliable.

And Greenwald is a libertarian, not a Democrat -- and not just with regard to spying.

https://www.vox.com/2016/9/15/12853236/glenn-greenwald-trump-clinton

From Sept. 2016:

Why Glenn Greenwald relentlessly attacks Hillary Clinton — even if it helps Donald Trump

Greenwald is not a fan of Donald Trump. But he is a dogged critic of Hillary Clinton, a more than occasional defender of Trump from charges that he’s a Russian cat’s paw, and deeply skeptical of the liberal conventional wisdom that the mainstream press has done too little to put Trump under a microscope. He and his colleagues at the Intercept are sufficiently relentless in these stances that to many liberals who used to cheer his excoriations of the Bush administration, he may even look like he’s rooting for Trump. At the end of the day, after all, if you’re hurting Clinton, aren’t you helping Trump?

Greenwald rejects the whole framework of the question. In an interview on Friday, Greenwald and I talked about the Clinton Foundation, the Intercept’s place in 2016 campaign coverage, and why Greenwald thinks the media shouldn’t let its fear of Trump temper the firepower it trains on Clinton.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. The Intercept employs people like Mehdi Hasan who I have great respect for
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:53 AM
Nov 2019

I love sources like The Intercept because they criticize both Republicans & Democrats. MSNBC has been going downhill ever since they hired Andrew Lack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
11. The Intercept helped elect Donald Trump. Just like Fox news, it employs certain individuals
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:56 AM
Nov 2019

who might do good work. But that doesn't make The Intercept a reliable publication.

It was no accident that they were so much more critical of Hillary than Trump throughout the campaign. Just like Fox.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. We live in an era of hyper partisan ideologically driven news
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:06 AM
Nov 2019

When an independent news source publishes information that is critical of Hillary Clinton is not helping or hurting someone. It is just publishing news.

This is what Obama's camp had to say about Clinton's campaign

"She was the one who could not translate his strong record and healthy economy into a winning message," wrote Baker about the Obama camp's view of Clinton's campaign.

"Never mind that Trump essentially ran the same playbook against Clinton that Obama did eight years earlier, portraying her as a corrupt exemplar of the status quo.


"She brought many of her troubles on herself. No one forced her to underestimate the danger in the Midwest states of Wisconsin and Michigan. No one forced her to set up a private email server that would come back to haunt her.

"No one forced her to take hundreds of thousands of dollars from Goldman Sachs and other pillars of Wall Street for speeches. No one forced her to run a scripted, soulless campaign that tested eighty-five slogans before coming up with 'Stronger Together.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-blames-hillary-clinton-losing-trump-2016-book-1413757

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betsuni

(25,486 posts)
13. No, that was not what Obama's camp had to say about Clinton's campaign.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:48 AM
Nov 2019

Those quotes are from Peter Baker from The New York Times.

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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. Who reported what they had to say
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:51 AM
Nov 2019
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betsuni

(25,486 posts)
15. Oh, now the corporate media conglomerate is reliable.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:53 AM
Nov 2019

Now the press is totally fine. I heard they did black-outs and such.

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RandySF

(58,799 posts)
3. This is a big nothing.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:34 AM
Nov 2019
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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
4. How is it her problem that Buttigieg's campaign is using fake endorsements?
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:38 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,486 posts)
5. Oh, it's like that Colombian woman whose stock photo was on the ACA website.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:41 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,343 posts)
16. all Sanders and his sphere have are negative attacks and pipedreams nt
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:05 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
17. Shit like this makes me lose respect for Buttigieg
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:53 AM
Nov 2019

He has tons of supporters. There's no reason to try and fake them. Yet...

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Celerity

(43,343 posts)
18. Welcome to DU
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:05 AM
Nov 2019

If you had bothered to read more in depth, you would have seen there were no 'fake' supporters. The campaign sent out multiple emails advising the people involved that they were going to do a roll-out and if they did not want to be associated with it,they needed to let them know.

It probably was not handled the best by his South Carolina director, as I would have rolled with an opt-in versus opt-out methodology, but it is what it is. Pete stood up and took responsibility, which is part of being a leader.

None of that goes to my reply anyway. Always negative to all other Dems and our Party, always selling completely non-passable ponies and rainbows. The nation is too artificially spun to right on an electoral footprint to pass most all of the far left (far left for the US, milquetoast centrist in Europe where I live atm) agenda pushed by the Sanderites, let alone win an election upon that said agenda.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
20. "Stock photo of a Kenyan woman" doesn't sound like a real SC supporter of Buttigieg.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:11 AM
Nov 2019

Therefore: fake. The campaign deserves to be criticized for being lazy, at least.

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Undecided
 

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
19. 1st- everyone gets caught using stock photos. 2nd- DU goes shit crazy when the GOP does it.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:10 AM
Nov 2019

Its advertisement. Its not a big deal unless they're also faked as actual people quoted. But everyone gets pissed at their own level too.
Omar has far bigger problems than this silliness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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