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The first Black woman elected to the U.S. Senate, Carol Moseley Braun, endorse Joe Biden (Original Post) Gothmog Oct 2019 OP
She's right DownriverDem Oct 2019 #1
Thank you, Senator Mosley Braun, for the kind words. Gothmog Oct 2019 #2
That's a glowing endorsement! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #3
Not sure I'm center left... LakeArenal Oct 2019 #4
How'd that work for us last time? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #11
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #13
Yeah, don't think it's spurious. Sorry. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #14
This +1 progressoid Oct 2019 #23
Ummm we won. We were cheated and hacked. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #18
It's not that easy. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #20
You are just the positive force we need. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #22
If your argument is that we were cheated and hacked, progressoid Oct 2019 #24
I'm no advisor. I don't pretend to know everything about Biden LakeArenal Oct 2019 #26
Wonderful endorsement. The article is well worth reading. Moseley Braun gives the Biden history emmaverybo Oct 2019 #5
Just the right endorsement for this time! Thank you FloridaBlues Oct 2019 #6
And former presidential candidate. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #7
K&R betsuni Oct 2019 #8
Joe Biden Is the Ally, Champion and Fighter We Need in 2020 Gothmog Oct 2019 #9
K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #10
Centrist supports centrist. Shocking. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #12
I don't think Warren can possibly win the Midwest LakeArenal Oct 2019 #19
Have you not read this forum? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #21
lol you don't get much more centrist than an ex republican . stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #27
K&R!!!!!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #15
Strange saga with her Senate seat. tritsofme Oct 2019 #16
Gothmog, Thanks for posting this. This is great news for Joe! :) Sloumeau Oct 2019 #17
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #25
K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #28
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
1. She's right
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:04 PM
Oct 2019

We are a Center/Left country. Many folks don't believe it. but it's true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
2. Thank you, Senator Mosley Braun, for the kind words.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:14 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
3. That's a glowing endorsement!
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:17 PM
Oct 2019
To Carol Moseley Braun.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
4. Not sure I'm center left...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:27 PM
Oct 2019

But I think our candidate has to be.

Sure I’d love dream healthcare and free for all school and hot lunch for every kid. So does Joe probably. But getting there is so incremental. It’s like knowing an algorithm for getting there. Sometimes it’s lengthy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
11. How'd that work for us last time?
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:55 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:26 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
14. Yeah, don't think it's spurious. Sorry.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:32 AM
Oct 2019

Last edited Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:44 PM - Edit history (1)

We nominated a centrist candidate that people didn't like. She lost. If we are going to ignore why people didn't like her, then we will likely lose again.

You know all the "Dems just needed to get out and vote in those swing states" arguments? There are reasons they didn't. We need to figure them out. I am positing that the lack of enthusiasm for a centrist was part of it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
18. Ummm we won. We were cheated and hacked.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:46 AM
Oct 2019

Short memory?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
20. It's not that easy.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:56 AM
Oct 2019

If that is how we go into the next election, we will lose again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
22. You are just the positive force we need.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

Keep spreading those rainbows.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
24. If your argument is that we were cheated and hacked,
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:44 PM
Oct 2019

what is your candidate doing to avoid this? Because it's likely going to happen again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
26. I'm no advisor. I don't pretend to know everything about Biden
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:44 PM
Oct 2019

What I know is Biden is the most qualified both nationally and globally. He’s well liked everywhere. I’m not blind to what I think are smeary half truths about Biden

Booker Harris Warren Sanders were all on the Franken Railroad. Although many of the other Senators have since expressed disappoint in their rash act of no due process, the above have failed to do so in even the remotest way. Actually they have doubled down on it. So for me that is more damning than Biden’s hugs, or something he should have made his grown son do or Not do, or something else that Republicans are trying to make important.

Is your argument that we didn’t win the vote and we weren’t hacked or cheated?

Also Joe Biden is not an office holder at this time so what is he have supposed to do about it?

Obviously you don’t like Biden. So I feel no further need for us to discuss this further.
Besides I have to go out

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. Wonderful endorsement. The article is well worth reading. Moseley Braun gives the Biden history
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:32 PM
Oct 2019

many seem unaware of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
6. Just the right endorsement for this time! Thank you
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:18 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
7. And former presidential candidate.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:34 PM
Oct 2019

She dropped out after DC and endorsed Howard Dean.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
9. Joe Biden Is the Ally, Champion and Fighter We Need in 2020
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:27 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
12. Centrist supports centrist. Shocking.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:57 AM
Oct 2019

Based on the response when progressives endorse Sanders or Warren, I guess that is the response we are supposed to have.

But, hey, good for Joe. I don't think he will win the nomination, but best of luck.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
19. I don't think Warren can possibly win the Midwest
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:50 AM
Oct 2019

But hey good for Warren.

Opinions everyone has one. Takes a special person to go on a pro other candidate post to buzz kill for another candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
21. Have you not read this forum?
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:58 AM
Oct 2019

Because it's not all positive posts. But, sure, we'll pretend the "buzz kill for another candidate" responses are limited.

Clinton didn't win the Midwest, so...

Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, and other large midwestern states can and do go Dem. Others never will. Ohio is likely lost completely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

stonecutter357

(12,695 posts)
27. lol you don't get much more centrist than an ex republican .
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:47 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
16. Strange saga with her Senate seat.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:19 AM
Oct 2019

But the long and short of it is...if she didn’t flame out in 1998, there never would have been an opening for a little known state senator named Barack Obama in 2004.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
17. Gothmog, Thanks for posting this. This is great news for Joe! :)
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:25 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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