Bernie is being Bernie, and plenty of Democrats don't like it

[comradebillyboy]

The Atlantic’s Edward-Isaac Dovere reports on Sen. Bernie Sanders’s hiring of an infamous left-wing attack dog:
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As a political matter, Sanders (I-Vt.) has stirred up a hornet’s nest, reviving resentments from 2016 in which mainstream Democrats saw Sanders as promoting himself and his cause at the expense of party unity. As Dovere wrote for the Atlantic, "The online fury of Sanders’s supporters was one of the most defining characteristics of his 2016 campaign. Sanders himself has said he is sensitive to that, as well as to accusations that he created divisions within the Democratic Party during his 2016 run against Hillary Clinton.”

The hire is especially worrisome for Democratic candidates and their staffs who vow to support the nominee in an effort to avoid a bloody internecine fight. As for Sirota, his reputation for vicious, personal attacks was well-earned. The Atlantic found, “On Monday night, after being contacted for a second time by The Atlantic with a list of specific questions about his undisclosed work for Sanders, Sirota did not respond to the email but deleted more than 20,000 tweets. He left fewer than 200 online.” That’s what you call a guilty mind.

Social media exploded with criticism of Sirota’s extreme views (e.g., praising former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez), his underhanded advocacy for Sanders and, even with all that, Sanders’s decision to hire him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/20/bernie-is-being-bernie-plenty-democrats-dont-like-it/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.da1fa9246852

[Gothmog]

1. Great article

I was about to post it

Link to tweet

Among the numerous long-time Democrats with whom I spoke about Sirota (none of which either works for or endorses a particular candidate), there was a common theme. A veteran Democratic insider tersely said, “David Sirota has been operating as a vicious attack dog against every Democrat who has been a threat to Sanders and, now, he’s just being paid for it.”

An alumnus of the Obama White House tells me, “The value we have as former government officials, especially those who worked with media, is the light we can shed on how the system works and how it’s broken. That’s why we need to be especially careful to disclose any relationships or conflicts when commenting publicly.” The former staffer added, “It’s not hard to do and gives even more credibility to what you’re saying. By not disclosing, you’re perpetuating the same shadiness that Bernie decries. To really show he’s grown since the 2016 experience and has broader appeal, Bernie needs of show he can bring the party together after what will be a tough nomination fight."

In a similar vein, a veteran of multiple Democratic campaigns and progressive causes observed that Sirota’s reputation is unique even in the hard-hitting world of social media political operators. “He’s the perfect storm: self-righteousness, ideological zealotry, and bullying obnoxiousness.”

At a time when Democrats are decrying President Trump and his band of cronies for polluting political discourse, pitting Americans against one another and seeking to destroy political enemies by character assassination, Sanders’s hire seems decidedly off-key. Rather than condemn Trump’s tactics and appeal to voters’ desire for something better, more high-minded, Sanders suggests through this hire that his operation will be just as mean-spirited as the current White House’s. The prospect of replacing Sarah Sanders or Stephen Miller with Sirota doesn’t exactly fill one with joy.

[R B Garr]

4. It's like he wants hands-off treatment only, but goes dirty

like what we saw with Hillary and these new hires. It just makes you wonder how he feels entitled to these double standards.

[Maru Kitteh]

37. Jay-zuz! Look at the periorbital ecchymosis in that photo! That was one HELL of a head strike.

That is the kind of head injury that happens when one is unguarded, such as an episode of syncope.

[True Blue American]

2. Not surprised

At all. Repeat.

[OhZone]

3. Yeah -

I don't like his hires of liars and Stein supporters. Every day it looks more obvious what his intentions are.

I am 100% done with him.

Maybe 110% ha.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. That did it for me.

I had supported Bernie in the 2016 primaries when the choice was only binary - and it had a whole lot more to do with some specific issues than him in particular. But his hiring of Jill Stein retreads and a divisive gut-puncher like Sirota in particular has totally soured me on Bernie. He’s now on my “oh, hell, no” list for the primaries this time.

[Snotcicles]

29. Lol. nt

[TexasTowelie]

85. Keep insulting the people that you will need in order to win a general election.

The actions of some Bernie supporters on social media and political discussion boards are the toxin that will doom him.

[Mr Tibbs]

136. This applies equally to supporters of all candidates

[TexasTowelie]

144. I agree with you,

And I agree that this forum has already become nasty. However, I see absolutely no reason to laugh at the remarks that were posted.

[lark]

89. We are in the same boat.

I loved his policies and so voted for him in the 2016 primaries. As Clinton caught fire, I switched to her side but still liked him. Later when I learned he had hired Paul Manaforts' partner as his campaign manager (WTF), that he lied about releasing his tax returns, that he had hired some of Steins, read Russia pushing, staff, that he knew about sexual harassment of his staff and basically ignored it - that door shut. With learning about the Sirota subterfuge the BS door is now shut, locked and barred forever.

[Amimnoch]

6. And only 1 person benefits from it. -nt.

[Eliot Rosewater]

101. Yep

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. It's as war has been declared on the entire Democratic field.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. The only "war [that] has been declared," as you put it, is on Bernie... it needs to stop.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[betsuni]

66. For example?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Isn't it obvious?!

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[betsuni]

74. No.

If you asked me to give examples of a war on Democrats, I could. Saying the party is "ideologically bankrupt" "feeble" "They want us to go back to their failed corporate approach." "Democrats have focused too much with a liberal elite that is raising incredible sums of money from wealthy people ... but has ignored to a very significant degree, working class, middle class and low income people in this country." "Are you qualified to be president of the United States when you're raising millions of dollars from Wall Street?" "The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic Party is an absolute failure." "It is not good enough to have a liberal elite." "The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last fifteen years or so has been a failure." "The Democratic Party has been dominated by wealthy campaign contributors." "And I think what Trump was able to do was pick up on the failures of the Democratic Party that did not talk about the fact that hard working decent people saw their jobs going to Mexico or China, or people cannot afford to send their kids to college or afford child care ... ." "It wasn't that Donald Trump won the election, it was that the Democratic Party lost. We need a Democratic Party that is not a liberal elite but of the working class of this country ... ,"

There are plenty more examples of a war on Democrats.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

79. Well, let's take just one of your so-called "examples"...

"Are you qualified to be president of the United States when you're raising millions of dollars from Wall Street?" The simple answer is no... Bernie is absolutely correct on this. Taking millions of dollars from those corrupt assholes on Wall Street is not a good look and why many candidates have sworn off taking their dirty money PRECISELY to demonstrate their qualifications to be President, one of which is to ZEALOUSLY represent the COMMON folks of this country, the 1% corporate elitist-types on Wall.Street be damned!!

The same goes for accepting dirty PAC money. Hat's off to all of Bernie's fellow Democrats - - who have followed his lead and, thus, shown their qualifications to be President in this respect also.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[betsuni]

82. It is illegal to accept donations in the millions directly from Wall Street/corporations.

PACs do not donate directly to candidates. These "Wall Street millions" are donations from individuals, as you know. Bernie has also raised money from Wall Street and corporations, as some of his donors work in corporations and on Wall Street. He also benefits from PAC money.

Hillary Clinton: "When I finally challenged Bernie during a debate to name a single time I changed a position or vote because of a financial contribution, he couldn't come up with anything."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. Thought we could have a serious conversation...instead, maybe you should take this up with Kamala...

your favorite candidate who said in an article in the Hill, entitled "Kamala Harris will no longer accept corporate PAC money":

"Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said Monday she will no longer accept donations from corporate PACs, the latest in a string of progressive Democrats who have vowed to do so.

Harris told the hosts of “The Breakfast Club” radio show in New York that she was caught off guard when asked recently at a town hall about accepting corporate donations. She said at the time it "depends."

“So I’ve actually made a decision since I’ve had that conversation that I’m not going to accept corporate PAC checks,” she said Monday.

Following Bernie's lead - who's NEVER caught "off guard" - all the other qualified "string of progressive candidates" have said the exact same thing... they have vowed to no longer accept corporate PAC money.

So, please, feel free to take this issue up with these candidates, who are eminently qualified when it comes to swearing off corporate PAC money.


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[betsuni]

92. Name some Democrats who've changed their votes or positions because of money.

It's a non-issue, like immigrants flooding into the U.S. to take everyone's jobs and doing crime, or voter fraud.

Seems like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her campaign manager have some PAC trouble.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

94. LOL!!! That's right, change the subject to AOC when your own candidate says she too

refuses to accept corporate PAC money, and RIGHTFULLY so, which was my point. So, you bring up AOC?! Really?!

But, if you want to change the subject - which is understandable - why don't you ask Kamala, not me, if SHE knows any Democrats who have changed their votes or positions because of money. The point is, to be a qualified candidate, you need to AVOID EVEN APPEARANCE(!!!) that your loyalties lie with any corporate interest groups. Kamala, Bernie, and a whole host of other Democrats running in 2020 understand this... and I'm sure you do too.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[betsuni]

95. Name Democrats who have changed votes or positions because of money. It's a non-issue.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. Has Kamala responded yet?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[George II]

125. I read that the PAC filed an amendment a week or so ago, removing her as a member...

...of their Board of Governors. Why would a candidate and then member of Congress be on the board of Governors of a PAC? According to FEC.gov, she also filed her statement of candidacy using the same address as that PAC, only changing it two weeks after the November 2018 election.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

132. Hmmm... interesting.

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[Mr Tibbs]

139. That would be illegal bribery

Politicians tend to be more subtle than that

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/01/25/senate-energy-democrats-hire-former-industry-lobbyist-to-lead-staff/

[TexasTowelie]

91. Upon examination of Bernie's rhetoric and policies

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there is very little substance--only the fantasy of some socialist utopia. I'm surprised that Jane and Bernie ever bought homes--their beliefs are more consistent with those who shun reality and live in co-ops, but then beg people at the grocery store to donate money because they are too lazy to get jobs.

[comradebillyboy]

93. One candidate led that lifestyle until he turned 40...

[R B Garr]

142. He lost in liberal California in 2016, and his groups lost

in 2018, with the exception of a couple who replaced incumbent Democrats. I don’t think any replaced Republicans.

It’s not an attack from the far right to note that socialism isn’t popular.

[TexasTowelie]

145. Bulls..t.

My posting history indicates that I'm a liberal Democrat so stop with the insults.

[True Blue American]

152. Didn't Bernie

Do everyone of those things before he managed to win an election to be Mayor and has been living off the Government dole ever since?

I read stories of his family living in a house with a dirt floor, seen pictures of his family. Know he once lived in a Commune, was thrown out for being lazy.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5120/sanders-was-kicked-out-commune-laziness-hank-berrien

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927

[Mr Tibbs]

138. One need only look at thread titles in the Forum

And do a little math

[DemocratSinceBirth]

78. Please vote in my poll.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128732851

and read this editorial:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-bernie-sanders-supporter-and-journalist-had-a-secret-he-kept-from-his-readers/2019/03/20/063aabee-4b26-11e9-b79a-961983b7e0cd_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b330200ba304



Thank you in advance.

[TexasTowelie]

83. .

[George II]

121. Is that why he hired at least three of his top advisers/staffers even though they openly say....

....that they supported and voted for a third party candidate, not Clinton?

Why would a "Democrat" associate with such people?

[Eliot Rosewater]

102. Yep

[Mr Tibbs]

137. He has launched a war on America's dysfunctional political system

[DemocratSinceBirth]

140. By hiring unethical journalists

By hiring unethical journalists who lambaste other candidates while surreptitiously in service to one of their opponents and then deleting 20,000 tweets to cover his tracks:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/19/bernie-sanders-hires-reporter-david-sirota-who-has-bashed-candidates/3216513002/


And then kneecapping the Democratic nominee on the eve of the most consequential election since the election of 1864:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/128734324

[msongs]

8. when someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them. is that the saying? nt

[MH1]

17. Yes. nt.

[Thekaspervote]

57. +1000

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

67. Yes, Bernie's shown us he's the Democrats' true Progressive warrior in this race and I believe him!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[wasupaloopa]

77. That based on speaches and no real actions.

It gets me how Bernie supporters fall for his talking points that he has repeated over and over for years.

His whole time in the Senate is just proposing bills he knows will never pass.

Wake the hell up. Bernie supporters here are like mindless stepford wives. You have a brain use it.

[TexasTowelie]

84. +1

[Kahuna7]

111. But he saaaays stuff and speaks words that the Democratic Party

never thought of..... </sarcasm>

[NurseJackie]

81. There's no evidence of that.

Democrats' true Progressive warrior

There's no evidence of that.

If such a claim were based in reality, then the BS message would be resonating strongly with the AA community and POC. But, that's not the case. The BS campaign is aimed at a certain segment and neglects so many others. BS is being rejected.

[Kahuna7]

112. He cannot point to any "progressive" legislation that he has proposed and passed.

ZIP!

[NurseJackie]

115. I keep requesting info that lists his legislative accomplishments, but so far, nothing.

I keep requesting info that lists his legislative accomplishments, but so far, nothing.

All I'm saying is, one might think that anyone who had spent 30 years in Washington would have something to show for it. (And I'm talking about things that have real meaning in the lives of everyone... not dedicating Post Office names, and the like.)

Where's the leadership? Where's the cooperation and compromise that gets things done? Finding common ground means PROGRESS, right? Grandstanding and boasting, well, not so much progress happens there.

By the way, you know that thing about how BS "votes with Democrats 99% of the time" ... I'm sure you've heard it. His supporters repeat it regularly. Well... turns out that IT'S NOT TRUE. In reality, BS does NOT "vote with the Democrats 99% of the time". It's closer to 80%.

[Kahuna7]

117. Hi Jackie! Remember me?

I hope so. kahuna.

[NurseJackie]

118. What do YOU think?

Hi there!

[Kahuna7]

119. Good!

[George II]

122. How has he shown that? I see proclamations like that frequently but never accompanied with....

....specific accomplishments. What might they be?

[Eliot Rosewater]

103. Yep

[getagrip_already]

9. what was he thinking?

It's like he is trump. F all of you, I'm going to do what I want and you aren''t smart enough to criticize me. Only I can win. And if I have to burn down the entire party to get there, I will.

So he only lost support by doing this. I doubt anyone who didn't already support him will say "hey, I want to be a part of that".

They are counting on nobody hearing about it. The calculated badly.

[Docreed2003]

28. And that's Bernie being Bernie

And why so few of his colleagues signed up for his camp in 2016!!

[Hortensis]

10. Bernie being Bernie equated to Trump being president,

so yes, I DON'T like it. In safe times we could afford dissident leaders and their followers going their own ways, but not in an era when races are won by such dreadfully thin margins. The danger to our democracy is enormous.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. What kind of thing is that to say? So Bernie is now responsible for tRumpy's fake win over Hillary?!

Didn't you read Hillary's book "What happened"?


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[Hortensis]

73. Didn't you notice how paper-thin the margin of loss was

and how in those key 3 states alone the # of Sanders' voters who believed his corrupt Democrats/corrupt Hillary theme and refused to vote Democrat was bigger than our margin of loss? And that doesn't even count all the other left-leaners who didn't vote at all because they lost their belief in us after hearing too much from him and Russia?

Sanders' poisonous effect on the election was only one of many factors that each alone would have made all the difference in this election, but it was also felt across the nation, not in just three states, where an expected giant blue wave was destroyed and corrupted by lies into widespread Republican victories.

But now the important thing to realize is that it could happen all over again and must not be allowed to. Many knowledgeable political scientists believe our democracy itself is in danger and that we might not have another chance to save it.

Democracy under Democratic Party leadership OR white nationalist authoritarian government. That's the choice.

[Croney]

76. I agree completely.

[George II]

123. The votes for Jill Stein in a few states were more than enough to prevent Clinton from winning....

And now we have a Democratic campaign being stocked with just such people - those who voted for Jill Stein and have expressed no shame or embarrassment.

[BlueFlorida]

148. Statistics show that

Bernie's superficial campaigning and his top aides' support of Jill Stein cause Hillary to lose by a 95% confidence limit.

[Eliot Rosewater]

104. Yep a million times

[roody]

11. "His cause", means ideas that help people. Eom

[Demsrule86]

16. He hired those who hate Demcrats...message received.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

20. Does this mean you won't be voting for him in the primaries?

[Demsrule86]

21. Hell no, but I probably wouldn't of done so anyway...I am still quite bitter about 16.

I wanted no candidate from 16 to run. However as we have discussed, I will vote for Sen. Sanders should he make it to the general. His campaign picks make me worry that we will end up with division, but I truly believe progressives and others who know that the only way to get Trump out is to vote Democratic will do exactly that no matter who the candidate is. You and I we have talked about this before. I actually voted for Sen. Sanders in Ohio. But was very angry by the end of the General and some of the stuff after that has not set well with me. May the best man or woman win.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. Well I voted for Hillary in 2008 and of course in the general. So we are even!

[Demsrule86]

87. People have a right to support whom they choose. I would never argue that. And may the best

man or woman win. I am a political junkie and generally enjoy every election. This one frightens me though because I think Trump could win. I look at the 18 mid-terms and I see moderates elected. We run on what Trump will call 'socialist' policies, we lose. This is why although I am a progressive, I will vote for a moderate in 20. I want to win the general. Sen. Sanders is not on my primary list because though you might think it unfair, I simply can't get over the bitterness of 16.

He would have my vote in a general of course. And I think if during the convention it goes to a second vote...supers need to vote for the person with the most delegates...no smoky rooms and no backroom deals because....no one wins if there is a brokered convention except Trump and Republicans.

[Thekaspervote]

58. It does me. He's divisive

[Eliot Rosewater]

105. Yep

[MH1]

18. Helping Trump win does not help people. nt.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

75. And it's those progressive ideas that Bernie and all the other Democratic candidates

are promoting that we should be uniting around, instead of dividing ourselves into separate camps over petty squabbles. Feel free to debate substantive policy differences on how best to bring those progressive agenda items into fruition, or to bring up past votes or positions that indicate the political leanings and, thus, likelihood of a certain candidate to fight hard for that progressive agenda, that's fair game... but to personally attack a fellow Democratic candidate, like Bernie, who has spent his entire political life fighting to help common folks and those in desperate need, caught up in a rigged system imposed by the 1%-ers and their ilk, that's over the line.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BlueFlorida]

149. Actios speak louder than words as the old saying goes

Bernie has a lot of words but where are the actions?

Every other Democratic senator running has introduced more bills and has had more of them passed per year of service.

[Kahuna7]

114. He's not the only ones with ideas that help people. What do you think

the Democratic Party has been doing for the past 50 years?? I have never in all my 65 years on earth seen a Democrat run a scorched earth campaign against another Dem like Bernie did. I've never seen a Dem challenge the clear winner at the convention the way Bernie did.

[sheshe2]

127. +1000

Hey, Kahuna.

[Kahuna7]

153. Hey Baby! Glad to see ya!

[roody]

147. Wtf? He was always a gentleman.

[monmouth4]

12. I'm so over Bernie, wish he would just go away..n/t

[Thekaspervote]

59. +1000

[Eliot Rosewater]

106. Yep times two million.

[Lazy Daisy]

13. yawn

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. Yep. From the paper that had Johnathan Capehart writing column after column without disclosing..

... his husband worked for a campaign.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

134. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[David__77]

14. I like him being him.

...

[melman]

15. Jennifer Rubin

is a right winger.

[redstateblues]

31. She's a never Trumper. The enemy of my enemy is my friend(for now)

She hates Trump-I know she'll go back to being a Republican, but I enjoy her slamming Drump

[melman]

34. She won't need to go back to being a Republican

because she never stopped being one. She is a Republican now.

[Cha]

23. Oh I don't care who wrote this.. she's

can certainly tell that Dems don't like fucking sirota and BJG.

Who would like this shite coming from these two?

"Bernie Sanders has tried to assure Democrats he does not intend to run a factional splinter campaign in 2020. To that end, he has promised to endorse the nominee, and pledged he will not run a negative campaign"..

Uh huh.. he says a lot things... and then he hires dividers and stupid attackers like Sirota and BJG.

Link to tweet

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Screenshots taken before the mass Twitter deletion preserve the role that Sirota was playing to his 125,000 followers, trying to turn the early online conversation about the 2020 primary race against other candidates, all while unofficially advising Sanders.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

Link to tweet

A couple of tweets, Sirota Deleted..

David Sirota on Twitter: "It's interesting that the Dem establishment ...

Link to tweet

?lang=en
David Sirota on Twitter: "If you are going to blame Trump's election ...

Link to tweet

Wonder what they said?.. lol:nuke

[melman]

25. "Devin Nunes Cocaine BJ Cow Did Treason"

One of the worst trolls on twitter.

[Cha]

33. Sez you. melman the worst fucking trolls

are sirota and BJG.

[melman]

36. Sez me and twitter

along with many other sites across the internet. When one gets banned over and over there is usually a reason.

In this individual's case the reason is because they are a troll. One of the worst.

[Cha]

38. No, you're Wrong.. Twitter says sirota

and BJG are the worst fucking trolls.

[melman]

40. Have they ever been suspended?

Devin Nunes Cocaine BJ Cow Did Treason has. More than once. And that's just on twitter.

Devin Nunes Cocaine BJ Cow Did Treason has also been outright banned on any number of other sites. I can think of three right now.

I am sure there are more. Again, the reason for all this suspending and banning is this individual is a troll. One of the worst.

[Cha]

41. At least she didn't have to DELETE 20,288

fucking TWEETS

[melman]

42. So you acknowledge that this individual is a troll

Thank you.

[Cha]

43. What I Acknowledge, melman.. is that

you are doing your USUAL DEFLECTION from the 3rd Party Hire TROLLS.

[melman]

44. Nope

Sorry. That is quite incorrect.

[Cha]

45. Yes you are.

[melman]

47. No

I'm actually not. I don't agree with the way you characterize these people. So in my view there is no need to deflect.


What I am doing is commenting on the tweeters you quoted. When you post these things people are allowed to comment

[Cha]

49. Deny it all you want.. not working.

[Eliot Rosewater]

107. yep

[Cha]

130. ..

[betsuni]

46. You know a lot about that person! In order to come across their tweets,

you must have visited their page, are following them, or follow someone who retweets them. Like you said yesterday is the only way to come across tweets. Which is it?

[Cha]

48. Snaps! lol!

[Eliot Rosewater]

108. Hey I know

Vote Blue No Matter Who


anybody disagree?????

[melman]

50. Hilarious!

Except it's really not. For that callback to make sense I would have had to have posted this tweet.

Which I did not. Better luck next time.

[George II]

120. What does that have to do with the discussion? Who is "Devin Nunes Cocaine BJ Cow Did Treason"?

[melman]

124. You don't know?

I think you do.

[George II]

135. Why not clue me in.

[Thekaspervote]

60. Thx for the post... very revealing

[Cha]

62. You're Welcome, Thekaspervote..

Yes, this the kind of people BS wants on his team.

[betsuni]

24. It's deja vu all over again.

[Eliot Rosewater]

110. Wait WHAT?

Something happened
It was terrible
To prevent it from happening again we need to

wait what?

[samnsara]

26. i refuse to throw any $$ support to anyone going negative..

...if they are the dem nom i will vote for them, but no $$

[shanny]

27. Don't like Bernie? Don't like Sirota? Don't vote for him.

Problem solved.

[bernie59]

35. Spectacular idea

and it takes much less work than doing all the criticizing.

[shanny]

52. yup.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. What?! And miss out on an opportunity to bash Bernie?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[shanny]

54. it does seem to be a favorite hobby for some

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

64. It's too bad...you'd think we could unite as Democrats around the progressive values...

Bernie has promoted his entire political life. Bashing Bernie, his staff and supporters, instead, only serves to sow seeds of division.

I, for one, will support and vote for the eventual nominee, but, history has shown us not everyone will. The last thing we need now is a bitter primary fight that leads to another "PUMA movement." That's why it's critically important to emphasize the progressive values our favorite candidates SHARE as Democrats and unite around the one, most important goal that should bind us... defeating the POS Traitor-in-Chief currently occupying the White House.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[shanny]

72. THIS

I truly do not understand the deeply-personal gut-level antipathy toward Bernie. He has been a life-long ally and espouser of liberal causes and yet he is less welcome than, say, a lifelong Republican who hates tRump. It is a mystery.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

71. Now THERE'S a concept!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[TexasTowelie]

146. Good advice.

I intend to follow it.

[RandySF]

30. George H.W. Bush '88 comes to mind.

[Eric J in MN]

68. You think Bernie Sanders is similar

...to George H.W. Bush?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. Seriously!! What's next, comparisons to tRump?! Oh, wait...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[aikoaiko]

32. And yet the polls show a lot of Democratic voters like Bernie.

That is what makes Bernie so wonderful.

[redstateblues]

51. Less every day. Bernie is slipping in the polls-down 8 to Biden in the CNN poll

He is sinking in Iowa as well

[UniteFightBack]

39. Wait a minute...I say Dem's like Bernie....but maybe just not enough to vote for him, 'all in'. nt

[Gothmog]

55. Washington Post-A Bernie Sanders supporter (and journalist) had a secret he kept from his readers

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A reporter’s undisclosed connection to a political candidate would constitute a breach of journalistic ethics. The basic rule is that journalists are supposed to be free of any personal or financial relationship with those they cover or comment on, even an “informal” relationship. Alternatively, reporters are obligated to at least disclose such relationships so that readers or viewers can evaluate the integrity of the reporting for themselves.

Sirota, 43, not only didn’t mention his relationship with Sanders’s campaign but apparently sought to erase his long history of attacks against Sanders’s opponents, according to the Atlantic. Just hours before his hiring by Sanders was announced, Sirota deleted about 20,000 or so of his tweets. He suggested that the timing of the mass deletion was coincidental, telling the Atlantic that his account was scrubbed by an “autodeleter” that periodically and automatically removes his posts.

It remains unclear how long Sirota advised the Sanders camp before his hiring. Neither Sirota nor Sanders’s representatives responded to multiple requests for comment on Wednesday.

Sirota’s vitriolic tweets and blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanders’s campaign, which has stressed that it will “respectfully engage” other Democratic candidates. His hiring as a speechwriter also appears to be an acknowledgment that Sanders, whose extemporaneous public remarks have been a sign of his authenticity, will at times be scripted like other politicians.

[oasis]

56. Bernie should dump Sirota before he has to start aplogizing

for his presence.

[Thekaspervote]

61. He already needs to apologize

[sheshe2]

129. For even thinking this was a good hire.

Blows my mind.

[Eliot Rosewater]

113. And yet here we are. This is why I am not going to bother anymore. If we cant

get it right then I will spend my time doing something else.

[allgood33]

63. Picking up where he left off. i hope the voters who followed him over the cliff wise up. nt

[Blue_Tires]

86. Sirota deleted 20,000+ tweets?

LOL

[Blue_Tires]

90. LOL

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[Gothmog]

96. Sanders supporter spreads false and baseless smear

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[comradebillyboy]

97. If I was on twitter I'd follow that tweeter.

[Gothmog]

98. I have been following this poster for a long time

[Kahuna7]

109. You sure would. Sally is one of my faves. nt

[Skidmore]

99. Bernie being Bernie

triggers "let Trump be Trump" for me. Let him follow Trump's playbook and lie while he does. I've always thought he was the flip side of that coin.

[dalton99a]

100. +1. Similarities are hard to ignore

[R B Garr]

143. +1000, very obvious similarities. nt

[Pope George Ringo II]

116. I'll come out and admit it: This didn't change my vote.

I decided in 2016 I wasn't ever going to vote for him, but I feel better about it now.

[Autumn]

126. I'm a Democrat and I like Bernie just fine. nt

[saljr1]

128. I supported Bernie in the last election but will not this time around.

I never gave as much financial support to a candidate. If he wanted to run again and get respect from the Democratic Party, the first thing he should of done was join the party. I see him in a different light this time around, more like a stubborn old man. We need a breath of fresh air with enthusiastic youth. JMHO

[Gothmog]

133. What it means that Bernie Sanders is hiring people who think all the non-Bernie democrats are bad

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[bernie59]

150. Politics is changing

It isn't nice, but it is reality. Bernie is playing to win.

[RandySF]

151. Bernie just hired a past partitioner of racial attacks.

Bernie Sanders first hired his new speechwriter, David Sirota, 20 years ago, shortly after Sirota was fired from a mayoral campaign for his connection to a bogus website that promoted a racially charged quotation, taken out of context, of a black opponent.

In 1999, in Philadelphia, there was a crowded Democratic primary for mayor. Three of the candidates were African American: John White, Dwight Evans, and John Street, all of them friends going back years. But the race got intense early, and David Sirota, then working as the deputy campaign manager for Evans, was part of an effort to cut down White’s support: creating a bogus website, purporting to be the official home page of the White campaign, and using it to promote a racially charged quotation, deliberately taken out of context.

The ruse was soon discovered. Evans, who is now a Democratic member of Congress, fired Sirota. He called Sirota “overzealous” at the time. “I do not want this race to be about race,” Evans said in 1999, calling the site in question an example of “dirty tricks.” The website took a comment that White had made in a broader interview with a Spanish-language weekly, Al Día, and presented the line as if it were an anti-white slogan: “The black and the brown, if we unite, we’re going to control this city.” Local reporters in Philadelphia received emails directing them to the site as though it were part of John White’s campaign.

White, according to news reports at the time, was speaking about the increased political clout African Americans and Latinos could have if they worked together as a coalition. That was February. By the fall, Sirota was hired as the press secretary for Bernie Sanders, then in the House. He was hired by Sanders’s then–chief of staff, Jeff Weaver, who went on to manage Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign and remains a senior adviser to the 2020 campaign.



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/bernie-sanderss-new-speechwriter-has-controversial-past/585547/

[Gothmog]

155. For this thread

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