Vox: 5 winners and 3 losers from the October Democratic presidential debate

[TomCADem]

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Vox's analysis of the debate. Again, surprising that Warren emerged as the winner in the analysis even though she was the clear target of most of the other candidates as the perceived front runner.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/15/20916495/democratic-debate-october-2019-winners-losers

Winner: Bernie Sanders
Bernie entered this debate on the ropes. After spending most of the campaign solidly in second place behind Joe Biden in national polls, he is now a distant third behind Biden and Elizabeth Warren. He’s also in third in Iowa (which he nearly won in 2016) and in New Hampshire (which he won in 2016 in a huge landslide). By the numbers, he seems to be underperforming his last run, despite having a vastly more professional campaign infrastructure and not facing a juggernaut like Hillary Clinton.

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Winner: Elizabeth Warren
If there was any lingering doubt that Warren has ascended to frontrunner status, this debate put it to rest. Warren was certainly treated like the frontrunner of the debate, judging by all the attacks she took. The Massachusetts senator has replaced Bernie Sanders as the preferred punching bag of lower-polling moderate candidates who are hesitant to go after Biden. From the get-go, more moderate candidates including Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg jabbed at Warren, trying to pin her on whether she’d raise taxes in paying for Medicare-for-all.

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Loser: Tulsi Gabbard
The congresswoman from Hawaii has premised her entire candidacy on fierce opposition to US military adventurism abroad. Tonight, she had a chance to distinguish herself during a lengthy foreign policy debate — and made a series of blatantly false statements.

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Loser: Joe Biden
Joe Biden’s campaign is not going as planned. He entered the race with a lot of confidence, consistently polling as the frontrunner. Over the last few weeks, that’s started to change — with several polls finding Elizabeth Warren ahead, and polling averages by RealClearPolitics and the Economist at times putting Biden in second place overall.

[TexasTowelie]

1. Is the link provided correct?

The material that you show as excerpts is not shown in the linked article.

[Iliyah]

2. Honestly, I don't need to be told who won lost . . .

I can make my own decisions.

[Otto Lidenbrock]

3. Klobuchar and Booker deserve to be up as winners

[emulatorloo]

4. Hi Tom, your link is incorrect

Link you have goes to an article about each candidate’s speaking times

[TomCADem]

5. Oops. Sorry about that. Fixed the link

Thanks!

[emulatorloo]

8. ...

[boomer_wv]

6. ?

Biden lost because Warren has improved in the poll....before the debate? Maybe if you want to name debate winners and losers you should mention something that happened in the debate.

[melman]

7. I can't help but notice you left out this positive part about Bernie

"Sanders’s performance Tuesday night provided an answer to that worry. He was more animated and on his game than much younger candidates like Tulsi Gabbard or Amy Klobuchar. He was more effective than Warren at defending the Medicare-for-all plan they both support (but which, he’s quick to note, he wrote), replying to concerns about its realism, “I’m tired of people defending a system which is dysfunctional, which is cruel. 87 million uninsured. 30,000 people dying every year. 500,000 people going bankrupt. For one reason: They came down with cancer.”


Unintentionally I'm sure.