Buh?

[melman]

Link to tweet

[Kurt V.]

1. this was inevitably given his background. buh

[Hassin Bin Sober]

2. That tweet didn't age well.

Buh-by

[jalan48]

3. We need new Centrist faces for the future now that the old guard is reaching the end. If not, those

upstart Progressives might win Presidential elections. 2020 provides a great training opportunity.

[PDittie]

24. Heaven forfend

(Thank Dog I'm an atheist)

[Celerity]

4. 20 month old tweet and article says wot. I fail to see the point of this other than to confirm

a Sanderite clutching at straws.


Also, I call complete bollocks on that old tweet's spin:




The opposite is true, run on a platform that calls for the taking away of people's choice when it comes to healthcare, and THAT will result in defeat after defeat.

[melman]

6. lol

[Celerity]

9. So, how many CURRENT MFA-supporters flipped Red seats to Blue last election?

How many (new candidates, not incumbents) MFA supporters lost in either the primaries or the general, in swing/purple/pink/red districts?

Winning the POTUS is not the same as winning in a safe Blue seat.

[Kurt V.]

10. the flip had nothing to do with policy and everything to do with the potus.

you don't get record turn out bc of kitchen table issues.

[Celerity]

12. My point is that MFA is an election loser, not an election winner in

the majority of the nation.

[Kurt V.]

13. Maybe, maybe not. it hasn't been explained well enough yet. the upside is huge if only

Supporters can get the messaging right.

[Kurt V.]

11. ppls choice is a rw talking point. an old, tired one.

[Celerity]

14. Lol. Ludicrous. If that is true then most of the remaining

candidates still running are running on a Rethug talking point platform.

Show me how many Rethugs supported or are currently supporting the public option (which IS what is meant by 'choice' when Pete, or Biden, Klobuchar, etc etc speak about healthcare.) Please do tell me, show these mythical Rethug public option supporters.

Medicare For All WHO WANT IT is choice and certainly NOT a RW talking point.

[melman]

15. +1

[boomer_wv]

5. M4A

Is a general election loser.

[Celerity]

7. +10000

[Thekaspervote]

8. Indeed..

[SMC22307]

16. Medicare at 55 is a winner.

Many of my friends and I are in that 55-64 group just trying to hold on until Medicare age. Many homes are paid for, retirements saved for, etc. but we all keep working because healthcare costs would kill us. I guarantee folks in their 50s and 60s would RUN to the polls if we embraced Medicare at 55.

[CTyankee]

18. Yup. That was me when I was in that age group. And I was scared that my high bp would

DENY me coverage! I remember those days before Obamacare. I literally wouldn't go have my bp taken for fear of a high reading that would go into my health records.

[SMC22307]

20. Older people already out-vote younger people.

I'm not convinced young people are going to turn out in 2020 no matter how insane, vile, corrupt, etc. Trump is. Too many don't get excited unless there's an Obama-like candidate. In 2016, many AAs in Pennsylvania (a crucial swing state!) didn't turn out because they just weren't that excited about Hillary. I'd be targeting people who are *this* close to retiring and those who might benefit from filling the job vacancies. I know about a half-dozen sane Republicans who would vote for the Dem candidate pushing Medicare at 55 and I imagine there are many, many more throughout the country.

[Celerity]

23. not any more, Gen Z, Millennials and Gen X outvoted older generations in 2018 midterms

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/

I am 23, and I have voted since the 2014 mid-terms, when I was 18.

[SMC22307]

25. OK, that's encouraging. Let's hope it holds in 2020 and beyond! (n/t)

[left-of-center2012]

17. neither support #MedicareForAll.

Many do not.
Many want a choice.

[Rebl2]

19. Agreed!

I like my health insurance through my husband’s company he retired from. It is my husband’s secondary insurance. I’m not old enough for Medicare yet and I take expensive drugs for rheumatoid arthritis. I already know, no supplemental insurance will pay for it. Medicare Rx won’t pay for it either.

[CTyankee]

21. I think Warren is saying that that "choice" comes at a steep price...

so I think she needs to spell out more clearly what is wrong with what is called "choice."

She hasn't gotten it down to a fewer words yet but she will.

[left-of-center2012]

22. I am happy with what I have

I have a Blue Cross Medicare Advantage HMO.

Keep your hands off my Medicare plan.

[Blistering Sun]

26. Good liberals like Pete Buttigieg are the future of the party.

I've enjoyed seeing him emerge from "nowhere."

[empedocles]

27. We need progmatists who know how to beat trump