The Hard Truth about Biden and I Love Saying It:

[MineralMan]

He can beat Donald J. Trump on any day of the week. I'll be voting for him next November, I'm quite certain. He'll win the Democratic nomination, because of my first statement. That's the most important thing to know about Joe Biden. Not his age. Not his son. Not anything else. He can beat Trump. "Like a drum" as he so charmingly says.

[Tarheel_Dem]

1. Damn straight MM!

[hlthe2b]

2. I hope so. I will say there is NO ONE more experienced in the ways we need them to be.

Others have their own strengths to bring to bear, but NO ONE can beat Biden on his appropriate experience.

[highplainsdem]

4. Not just the experience, but the respect our allies have for him. We have to rebuild

the alliances Trump has shredded.

[emmaverybo]

10. Yes, indeed! America and the world needs Joe. Of all our fine candidates, only Joe has the

knowledge, experience, and world-stage stature to right the ship of state, allay the fears of our allies, and send a tough, unwavering message to our enemies.

World leaders wanted him to run. He is running, and he’s Trump and Putin’s worst nightmare.

Snip————————————-

World leaders tell Biden: We need you
The former vice president would bring deep relationships and heavyweight credentials to a 2020 Democratic field lacking in national security experience.
By DANIEL LIPPMAN 03/20/2019 05:04 AM EDT

When Joe Biden attended the annual Munich Security Conference last month, the wonky foreign policy confab promised an escape from the nonstop speculation back home about the former vice president’s political plans.

Snip—————————————

Instead, Biden’s 2020 intentions were the talk of the conference.
A former Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman, Biden has specialized in foreign policy for decades — a key reason why Barack Obama, who had modest credentials of his own in that realm as a freshman senator, tapped Biden to be his 2008 running mate. As vice president, Biden was Obama’s ever-present adviser on world affairs and played a leading role in their adminstration's Iraq and Ukraine policies.

Even some prominent conservatives concede that Biden would bring to the campaign a formidable depth of knowledge of global events, especially compared to his would-be Democratic rivals.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/biden-2020-foreign-policy-national-security-1228345

[highplainsdem]

3. Nailed it! K&R!

[empedocles]

5. Best shot by far

[LakeArenal]

6. All of the above!

[Wellstone ruled]

7. After this mornings

push back by Biden telling Trump to put up or shut up,we have now entered into a real Campaign.

And Yes,Joe could be the Nominee. Which I will gladly support.

The Media will continue to harp Biden this and Biden that,but,after today,they will be eating those words.

[Thekaspervote]

16. Good thoughts... after last night seems he may be done "taking prisoners."

He’s speaking it as he sees it, which is refreshing. No dancing around issues for this guy

[Wellstone ruled]

34. This is what it takes in today's

dominance by Social Media and it's false Narratives.

[peggysue2]

8. On the money, MM

Joe Biden will beat Donald Trump which is why Trump and his enablers have tried so hard to derail the man. In addition, Biden has the experience and the chops to repair and restore our institutions and agencies, heal our battered alliances abroad and get on with the business of the important work needed on major issues: healthcare, climate change, gun regulation, etc.

He'll be ready on Day 1 because he brings a lifetime of on-the-ground knowledge and expertise to the mess created by Trumpism.

Biden was made for this moment.

[MineralMan]

9. Thanks. I was just getting tired of people damning him with faint praise.

It is beyond getting old.

[Cha]

59. ".. damning him with faint praise.." Exactly!

this is just the antidote we needed.. Mahalo, MineralMan!

[Thekaspervote]

14. Indeed! He is a great statesman and will begin immediately repairing damage here & abroad

[MineralMan]

20. Exactly. Nobody else can step up in that way.

And we're going to need that desperately.

[True Blue American]

29. The best!

[onetexan]

48. Couldnt agree more. Biden win will instantly repair our relationships

With allies & restore American reputation as a world superpower.

[lark]

11. Last night when he walked over and hugged Bernie, I thought that's why he wins!

People see how real and how caring he is and they like that - it's a polar opposite of the way drumpf would handle a similar situation with a competitor.

[Thekaspervote]

13. Yes, that was a great moment. When he does that sorta thing, you know it's from his heart

[True Blue American]

30. Didn't Joe hug Elizabeth, too?

They work well together.

[onetexan]

49. Not sure if a Joe/E ticket will be good, even though i would vote for either.

Beto or Buttigieg or Klobuchar would be my preference for veep.

[True Blue American]

55. The hug just showed they were friends.

I do think Elizabeth would clean up Wall Street. I read that some of the CEO’s agree with her.


But I have not choice yet. Much too soon.

[Thekaspervote]

12. Joe's resume... just for starters

Needs no on the job training, ready to start on day one

Excels in foreign policy... years of experience

Puts Tx in play, no other candidate does... this is a VBD!

The only one that beats dotard in OH

Excellent polling numbers with the AA voting block

Will have coattails, maybe because of president Obama.. so what. We need every down ballot race we can get

And that’s just for starters

[onetexan]

50. Couldnt agree more.

[Kahuna7]

15. Ya'll are going to make me cry...

[wryter2000]

17. I'll be happy to vote for him next November

I may vote for someone else in the primaries, but that's because we have several great candidates. I'd be thrilled to have President Biden. That sounds good!

[emmaverybo]

18. Unfortunately, news cut from Joe's presser to Trump, mindlessly spouting his usual

Islamic terrorist lines while, as Joe had just pointed out, in actuality, Trump has facilitated the release of the very terrorists he’s blabbing about, and these are some of the most dedicated, top
-tier badasses, threatening to wreak murder and mayhem on America and Europe.

Just as Obama got Osama bin Laden when Bush had the chance and flubbed his capture, Biden’s
leadership will round up these guys. He was right last night on Syria.

And yes, he will beat Trump, “like a drum.” Trump knows it!

[sandensea]

19. I hope you're right

I'll be proud to vote for him in November, if he's the nominee.

But is he really the best nominee for the all-important job of ousting Idi Trumpin?

And has Hunter Biden effectively made that next to impossible?

[LakeArenal]

26. If I said..

Yes he is the most qualified nationally and internationally to beat idi trump

And if I said Hunter Biden smearec by stories that have no truth to them has no bearing on the electability of Joe Biden.

Would you believe me? No.

[sandensea]

53. Well, I've never lived in Missouri.

But you gotta show me.

If you can show me how his board seats in Burisma and BHR aren't going to be ammunition for Cheeto and the Republicans, I'll be happy that you did.

Because as it stands right now - and as you know - the GOPee is effectively making Hunter Biden a household word for all the wrong reasons.

Extreme hypocrisy on their part, yes - but, then, that's their game.

So, how is Hunter Biden no a problem for his father? Your thoughts.

[LakeArenal]

60. No one is saying THEY won't use it as ammunition

But it’s already ammunition right here on DU.

Just like other parents of troubled children. It’s a family matter. And I actually think, mind your own business. Not that anyone will. Least of all the GOP and it’s many minions.

And I’m saying it isn’t going to do anything to hurt Joe Biden any more than the other over hyped stuff about Joe.

And it’s a rw smear job that works on some folks.

[RainCaster]

21. Whoever is blue, I vote for you!

Whoever the DNC chooses, I will vote for. As much as I think Elizabeth Warren is a truly qualified person, I don't think we need another repeat of 2016. Biden seems to be the most immune to the Russian trolls, and that is why Trumpo is pushing so hard on him.

[LakeArenal]

28. If you see Warren to be consistently in-the lead in-the polls

There will be a smear innuendo campaign increase against her.

And the old crap of likability, radical liberal,socialist, not Native American enough will begin in full force.

[blakstoneranger]

22. And Trump Knows IT!!!

That's why he's working so hard to discredit him with that weak ass bullsh..t from ukraine. Trump thinks his dumb ass game worked with hillary so it will work with biden. What he don't know (cause they won't tell him) is that it didn't work with hillary, hillary won the popular vote, she lost not because of his dumb-ass slander crap, but because hillary did not campaign where she really needed to. But we know you now, mr trump. we know you're a fraud and a con, a liar, a pervert, a cheat, a gigantic baby disrespected around the world as a fool. Even your authoritarian lovebirds disrespect you (they'll tell you too once they get through using you!). But not biden, biden has the respect you never had.

[Sogo]

23. Joe's strongest point in the debate (maybe the strongest point of any in the debate last night)

was his statement about being ready on day one, no on-the-job training needed in order to reverse the strain in relations with the other world leaders. He knows them all and they know him and who he is....

That moment went a long way in swaying my decision for the upcoming Iowa caucuses....

[Cha]

63. Thank you for that, Sogo!

[BootinUp]

24. K&R

[Pepsidog]

25. Biden/Warren ticket would be nice. Biden handles foreign policy, Warren Domestic.

[MineralMan]

27. That's still a possibility.

We'll see.

[mitch96]

56. Ahhh would Biden/Warren give donnie tantRump a pass on his criminal charges??

I hope not...
BTW I'm voting for who ever can beat the orange asshole in the whitehouse now...
m

[Pepsidog]

57. Ultimately I will vote for whoever has best shot at beating the Dotard.

[saidsimplesimon]

31. Current polls and odds favor Biden.

If Former VP Biden wins the primary, I will vote for him in the General.

[Voltaire2]

32. no offense but that is not a 'hard truth' it is merely your opinion.

[MineralMan]

33. Everything I write here is my opinion.

My thread title is a riff on another thread in this forum, from yesterday:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=311327

In most of the site's forums, you can see my statement about that in my signature line.

[Act_of_Reparation]

38. Is this hard truth or hard opinion?

You're sending mixed signals. I am confuse.

[MineralMan]

39. There is often much confusion.

There always is during primaries.

[GeorgeGist]

35. Not gonna happen.

[Kurt V.]

36. biden has a ceiling which is obvious with his polling and

Fundraising numbers. is it enough. we'll see.

[Peacetrain]

37. That is a big ME TOO!!! well stated MM

[Hekate]

40. From your lips to The Lady's ears

And if the GOP tries to run Pence, Joe will make mincemeat out of him.

[Dave in VA]

41. Thank You MM

Great post.

[OldRed2450]

42. Hell Yeah!

I love Joe!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Probably true of multiple top level contenders. . . . nt

[rurallib]

44. I don't care if it's Joe Biden or Baden-Baden as long as it has (D)

behind the name.

[world wide wally]

45. My sentiments as well

We all know he has the best chance of winning Wisconsin, Michigan, and Peensylvania... and possible Ohio as well.
In 4 years, we can vote for a long term plan, but for 2020, I want our best chance to win.

[FakeNoose]

46. Everything you say, plus

... he can also grab a lot of independents and disaffected Repukes. Even if the Repukes don't vote for him, they'll decide he's "not so bad" and they'll stay home and not vote for Chump.

It's BIG factor to consider - the crossovers and there will be tons of them next year.

[Butterflylady]

47. I like the way you think

And I wholeheartedly agree.

[OKNancy]

51. Melania won't have to give Jill a tour of the White House

LOL - another reason to elect Biden

[Gothmog]

52. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available

I also believe that Joe will be the nominee and that I will be voting for him.

[njhoneybadger]

54. That's the bottom line

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:19 PM - Edit history (1)

:thumbsup

where I live these rednecks will never vote for a gay man, a self-proclaimed socialist, or a female college professor but they will vote for Joe Biden. It's wrong, but it is what it is.

[Thekaspervote]

58. Thank you.. it's a hard fact for hard times you put into words. We cannot afford to lose

[Gothmog]

61. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[Cha]

62. Thanks for this Goth!

[Scurrilous]

64. K&R