*********Democratic Debate Thread #2*************

[bdamomma]

Here you go

[Takket]

1. Harris: let's talk about women's health issues: CNN mods: holy shit, change the subject quick!!!!!!!

[nolabear]

3. Yeah that was bad. They said they'd bring it up later though.

[Control-Z]

48. To be honest,

that pissed me off.

[4139]

2. Nats 7-0 and coming up to bat bottom of 2nd

[nolabear]

5. STAHP!!

[elleng]

20. NOOOOOO!!!

[Mersky]

43. Oof & noted

[pangaia]

73. rats, not looking good for the birds...

[bearsfootball516]

4. 42 minutes in, has Beto spoken yet?

[nolabear]

8. Once. I don't recall what he said.

Which is bad. I like him and would like to hear more from him.

[wysimdnwyg]

10. Beyond his opening statement...

Once? Maybe?

[Mersky]

6. Oooooo, cool! 40% of board of directors elected by employees

Says Warren. That’s bold. Having any number of directors elected by employees is a neat idea, imo.

[highplainsdem]

7. Yang mentions truck drivers facing losing jobs to automation, & Warren talks about Social Security??

[bdamomma]

9. Cory

is doing well too.


There are so many issues to cover the number one issue is to get rid of tRump crime thugs.

[Kahuna7]

11. He is. nt

[blm]

12. Dogging Warren no matter what.

Yeah. A purposeful life, eh?

Her board of directors proposal is great. But, I’m sure some here doggin’ Warren will hate that break with the status quo.

[helpisontheway]

32. CNN already has her healthcare response on front page..time to tear her down now. Nt

[wysimdnwyg]

13. It's clear several of the candidates are targeting Warren tonight

So far, I think she’s struggling a little. Still isn’t as strong as Sanders in defending MFA.

[hedda_foil]

15. Unfortunately I agree on that. She needed to make the case

[marlakay]

71. I was hoping she would have a better response

The problem is a bunch of people in America have jobs that actually pay a good chunk of their health insurance so its not overwhelming, then you have another bunch of people paying thousands per month for crappy insurance.

So when you equal it all out a lot of people would pay less in their monthly costs but what would happen to the people whose employers are paying most of it? That is why she doesn’t want to say taxes might go up for them.

I love her but she needs to find a better way to explain how her plan is paid. I am confused on it myself being covered by a good union and lucky we pay little.

This is the only thing that a lot of people are not sure of with her so she needs to be more clear.

[kacekwl]

55. Can't bring herself to

say taxes will be raised.

[polichick]

14. Sanders and Steyer speaking the truth!

[napi21]

17. Big reason for tyhe wealth gap is the Pugs keep lowering taxes on the wealthy sincee the 60's.

They need to go UP!

[IcyPeas]

16. Tom Steyer stares into the camera - it's not natural like the others are doing

it's robotic

[wysimdnwyg]

18. He'll never be the orator Obama was, but Biden is good so far

Especially like his comments about stock buybacks.

[emmaverybo]

34. He's not an orator. None of them are. Obama one of the great speakers. Biden has his own style

and at his best is very fine communicator. Oratory is a different art. Obama a master.

[Thekaspervote]

53. Glad you brought that up, I think many here and in general are looking for that.. it isn't going to

Happen!

Just because someone is not an obama level orator does not mean they aren’t great presidential material.

Let’s look at their platforms, general ideas, electability, history of public service

[wysimdnwyg]

61. I totally agree

Biden doesn’t have to speak as eloquently as Obama. If he’s elected, he will be a terrific president.

[MustLoveBeagles]

19. I'm sorry bdamomma

It looks like we posted at the same time. I changed mine to thread 3. People can go there when this one gets too full.

[bdamomma]

37. Great minds.............

That's cool.

[MustLoveBeagles]

45. I put a link to yours in my OP

People are still responding to both.

[riversedge]

21. Castro: We need to invest in universal child care, so that families don't need to spend 20% of their

Julián Castro
@JulianCastro
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We need to invest in universal child care, so that families don't need to spend 20% of their income on the child care that allows them to make a living.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Tarc]

22. What's the Tulsi Tally up to now?

She's gotten...1 question?

[scheming daemons]

23. One too many. She has no business being on that stage.

[yellowdogintexas]

41. #NotYouTulsi nt

[wysimdnwyg]

27. I hit mute when she spoke. (nt)

[IcyPeas]

24. corporate CEOs should't be earning as much as they do

and their golden parachutes when they leave...

[yellowdogintexas]

50. just check out the salaries of the CEOs of Big Insurance

They are obscene, especially when you remember that they are squeezing blood out of their customers. I worked in Health Insurance for 40 years, and the folks who made it all happen - the claims processors and their support teams were way down at the other end of the salary scale Also as one of my old team leaders used to say "Shit always runs downhill, and claims is always at the bottom"

Big Pharma is no better but I do believe they play their employees better proportionately

[bdamomma]

25. I like

listening to the new blood Mayor Pete and Beto. Amy, Kamala, Cory Booker. Bernie hasn't changed a bit since 2016 he's still plugging away.

[ecstatic]

26. Damn, Amy! Ok.... nt

[Mersky]

29. Yep, liked her call for unity in cause against tRump

So many good candidates, really.

[shanti]

30. She's shaking and the

veins are popping in her neck.

[dflprincess]

35. Every time the do a split screen between Klobuchar & Warren

Amy looks like she wants to throw something at Elizabeth.

She certainly is coming on strong tonight, but she's still a centrist and will never do anything but support the status quo.

I've voted for her 3 times (plus a couple times for Hennepin County Attorney) and I've never been happy doing it. The only thing I can say for her is she's better than a Republican.

[riversedge]

28. @KamalaHarris Republican legislatures need to keep their hands off of women's bodies. #DemDebate

Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
Republican legislatures need to keep their hands off of women's bodies. #DemDebate

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Politicub]

31. To Yang I say, we can learn from what Germany et al did wrong and fix it.

Wealth tax now.

[wysimdnwyg]

33. 1 hour in, who's talking?

Too much: Warren (I know, but she’s involved with every question), Gabbard (yes, that’s more than enough from her)
Too little: O’Rourke, Castro, Steyer, Harris

[tulipsandroses]

42. I agree! Its like The Who can take down Elizabeth Warren show

I am not a fan of CNN debates. I think they are throwing her way too many questions. Last time they tried to pit Dems against each other. I guess tonight's plan is Let's see who can take down Elizabeth Warren. I like Sen. Warren but I'd like to hear from the other candidates.

[riversedge]

36. Klobuchar is having a good night, as she quips not even the billionaire on this stage wants to prote

agree. she is a smart woman.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[MustLoveBeagles]

38. She's on fire tonight

[emmaverybo]

44. Yep. And there's not just one idea that will work, Warren, she is saying.

[emmaverybo]

39. Yang so right to point out we should stop promoting repeating other Western countries' mistakes

and learn from their successes. Also, we should try to understand we have a different tradition and history. We fought to the death over taxes.

[ecstatic]

47. Yeah. If he's right about the wealth tax failing, then that was not a good moment

for Warren.

[ecstatic]

40. LOL! Good point about not tearing each other down, Cory.

I guess we'll just have to forget that you've done the same thing?

[MustLoveBeagles]

51. Yep

There's that. Here's hoping he follows his own rule. All kidding aside he's done pretty good tonight.

[IcyPeas]

46. right Cory

I would love to see all of these people behind closed doors debating all this -- together they'd come up with plans for all these topics... I believe they could work it out. (yes I am naive)

[yellowdogintexas]

54. maybe the next debate could be a committee format

Here, we have 15 minutes on xyz topic. Here are the problems/issues.

Team up and Solve it.

[kennetha]

49. Warren is not going well

Elizabeth Warren is coming across as something of a sanctimonious know it all, my way or you are not serious about the problem sort of person. Not a good look.

[MustLoveBeagles]

52. I'd say this is her weakest debate performance so far

I'd say this is her weakest debate performance so far, but she has time to turn it around.

[peggysue2]

63. It's the first time she's had her feet held to the fire

I said before this was coming. This is the beginning. You'll note Yang brought up the problems with a Wealth Tax, how many of the European countries have rescinded theirs in a favor of a Value Added Tax. Why? Because implementation and enforcement of the Wealth Tax proved too costly and the revenues were far lower than expected.

What is most apparent tonight is that Elizabeth Warren is not accustomed to being challenged. It shows and not in a good way. Amy K and Mayor Pete are doing a very good job pushing back.

Interesting night!

[wysimdnwyg]

68. If the rest of the debate plays out like this...

The question becomes whether this hurts her, or if any hit she takes is short-lived like it was for Biden in the first debate. It’s hard to tell if more people are paying attention because we’re closing in on actual voting, or if fewer people are listening because a) they’re tired of debates and b) 12 is too many people on stage. Polling trends over the next few weeks will be telling.

[Turin_C3PO]

69. It's good that they're going after Warren.

I like her (she’s my second favorite) but she needs the practice defending her positions if she’s going to be our nominee.

[napi21]

64. It's also the debate where all the other candidates are after HER! nt

[Mersky]

59. And that's by design

Big pharma pays the bills at so many channels, of course she got hammered into the question of taxes upon the middle class for a soundbite. I’m going to look at her plan more closely.

[boomer_wv]

56. Oh yay...

This is the part where Tulsi Gabbard takes up for one of the worst humans to ever live. Bashar Al-Assad.

[IcyPeas]

57. Ana Navarro on P Buttigieg

lots of pro-Buttigieg replies too

Link to tweet

[UniteFightBack]

58. He is my number 2. I really really like him. Smart and thinks on his feet. He is the total

package.

[Politicub]

60. Siri is waking up every time Tulsi says "in syria"

[ecstatic]

62. "Caging kids on the border, but letting Isis run free"

[riversedge]

65. "Think about how absurd it is that this president is caging kids on the border and effectively lett

Lisa LererHost, On Politics newsletter

Castro says the first step to regaining trust across the globe is to “Boot Donald Trump out of office.”

9:21 PM ET
Sydney EmberSydney EmberNational Politics Reporter

“Think about how absurd it is that this president is caging kids on the border and effectively letting ISIS prisoners run free,” Castro says.

9:22 PM ET

[proud patriot]

66. Can I just say ?

Bernie looks and sounds Great ...

I'm Glad he's getting his full blood supply and feeling Great .

[Politicub]

67. He does such a great job with simplifying things. I'm in awe of his performance tonight.

[proud patriot]

74. as am I

[IcyPeas]

70. gun control - violent videos...... like the one we all saw yesterday of Trump

killing journalists.

Didn't he say violent video games cause gun violence?

[IcyPeas]

72. THERE APPEARS TO BE A THREAD 3 here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287309867#post6

[proud patriot]

75. Gracias

[real Cannabis calm]

76. That's a weird headline. And the OP copy lacks content