Democratic Primaries
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Will they finally admit what the G.O.P. has become?And the whole tenor of our national conversation has changed. It looks to me as if were witnessing the rapid collapse of a powerful faction in U.S. public life, one whose refusal to accept facts at odds with its prejudices has long been a major source of political dysfunction. But Im not talking about the right-wing extremists who dominate the Republican Party. Sorry, but theyre not going anywhere. Most of Trumps base is sticking with him, while the list of prominent Republican politicians willing to call out Trumps malfeasance in clear language consists so far of Mitt Romney and, well, Mitt Romney.
No, Im talking about fanatical centrists, who arent a large slice of the electorate, but have played an outsize role in elite opinion and media coverage. These are people who may have been willing to concede that Trump was a bad guy, but otherwise maintained, in the teeth of the evidence, that our two major parties were basically equivalent: Each party had its extremists, but each also had its moderates, and everything would be fine if these moderates could work together. Who am I talking about? Well, among other people, Joe Biden, who has repeatedly insisted that Trump is an aberration, not representative of the Republican Party as a whole. (Bidens refusal to admit what he was facing may be one reason his response to the Ukraine smear has seemed so wobbly.)
Some of us have been pushing back against that worldview for many years, arguing that todays Republican Party is a radical force increasingly opposed to democracy. Way back in 2003 I wrote that modern conservatism is a movement whose leaders do not accept the legitimacy of our current political system. In 2012 Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein declared that the central problem of U.S. politics was a G.O.P. that was not just extreme but dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
For a long time, however, making that case pointing out that Republicans were sounding ever more authoritarian and violating more and more democratic norms got you dismissed as shrill if not deranged. Even Trumps rise, and the obvious parallels between Trumpism and the authoritarian movements that have gutted democracy in places like Hungary and Poland, barely dented centrist complacency. Remember, just a few months ago most of the news media treated Attorney General William Barrs highly misleading summary of the Mueller report as credible...
More at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/opinion/republicans-trump-moderates.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I've long thought about what I consider the "tyranny of the centrists". It is the over sized influence they have upon legislation. Despite which party is in control, they pull legislation back towards themselves. They exist in both parties, but basically they leverage the votes of the opposition to move legislation towards themselves. They frustrate both parties, but never are held to account and have a sense of entitlement as some sort of "sensible middle" that is no more sensible than either party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,344 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dgauss
(882 posts)Basically, as I understand the horseshoe metaphor, the right and the left both have their extremists and somehow they circle around like a horseshoe to meet at some point point where they are nearly the same thing: extremism. So something like Medicare for All (the "extreme left" ) is equivalent to the most radical and destructive ideas on the right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)Which was the plan all along.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided