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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Bernie Sanders' OWN campaign video: (Original Post) George II Sep 2019 OP
If aything, that video made me reconsider supporting him again. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #1
I support BOTH Bennie & Elizabeth, as a team. Have since 2016. Bold forward-looking progressivism InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #9
Same here. I don't think we necessarily have to pick people with opposite views for Pres. and Vice- Doitnow Sep 2019 #16
Sometime in 2015 was when I first proposed this amazing duo... if only!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #18
Easiest way to lose in 2020... brooklynite Sep 2019 #22
Same HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #17
That's an understatement!! Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie is the only way to go. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #19
Warren actually is generating excitement, Sanders just talks about doing it while JI7 Sep 2019 #2
To be sure, there have been negative comments from some of our candidates about other... George II Sep 2019 #4
yes, and it's the fact that this is all he has been doing JI7 Sep 2019 #5
Some accomplishments... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #13
It's not as bad as Harris' attack at the first debate or Booker's attack at the second. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #12
What excitement? Where? nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #3
Sanders seems more than a little desperate. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #6
He's 100% right melman Sep 2019 #7
The "Pledge" is the document that BS bragged about being the FIRST to sign and then.... George II Sep 2019 #8
Well, maybe ONE. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #10
"Maybe ONE"? George II Sep 2019 #15
Yep, 538 shows there is an enthusiasm gap for Biden. nt Quixote1818 Sep 2019 #14
More like 1000%!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #20
"Of course it is. Confirmed and verified." LanternWaste Sep 2019 #21
Of course is wasn't a "bullshit non-issue" when BS was bragging that he was the first one... George II Sep 2019 #24
"Bernie was given the privilege of shaping the political worldview of millions of bright, betsuni Sep 2019 #11
Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #26
He sounds enervated. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #23
He makes a valid point. Joe941 Sep 2019 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author HeartlandProgressive Sep 2019 #27
I think Bernie is right. I don't necessarily think he is generating the most excitement among the KPN Sep 2019 #28
He knows Joe's the one to beat. Joe has taken on racism from the launch of his campaign, in fact, emmaverybo Sep 2019 #29
Who can trust a candidate PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #30
This is disqualifying BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #31
You're right about that. My respect for him continues to decline. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #32
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. If aything, that video made me reconsider supporting him again.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:52 PM
Sep 2019

:Shrug:

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
9. I support BOTH Bennie & Elizabeth, as a team. Have since 2016. Bold forward-looking progressivism
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:32 PM
Sep 2019

beats mild, moderate incrementalism every time!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
16. Same here. I don't think we necessarily have to pick people with opposite views for Pres. and Vice-
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:34 PM
Sep 2019

Pres. Look at tRump and Pence are----they went full bore with similarity. Why not Bernie and Elizabeth who will re-enforce each other with what MOST Americans want. It's about time. They are both really capable, smart, hard-working, energetic and will draw a huge vote. And beat tRump. An amazing team.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
18. Sometime in 2015 was when I first proposed this amazing duo... if only!!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:04 AM
Sep 2019

Better late than never!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
22. Easiest way to lose in 2020...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:22 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
17. Same
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:41 PM
Sep 2019

I think it's a valid point to make that Biden's campaign is not generating enthusiasm. If beating Trump is our #1 priority, we need to get as many people out to the polls as possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
19. That's an understatement!! Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie is the only way to go.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:06 AM
Sep 2019

Moderate incrementalism will not generate enthusiasm anywhere near the way bold progressivism will... it's clear as day!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,182 posts)
2. Warren actually is generating excitement, Sanders just talks about doing it while
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:58 PM
Sep 2019

attacking others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. To be sure, there have been negative comments from some of our candidates about other...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:02 PM
Sep 2019

...candidates, that is to be expected, but none reach the level of this or some of the surrogates/high level staffers.

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JI7

(89,182 posts)
5. yes, and it's the fact that this is all he has been doing
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:06 PM
Sep 2019

he has been in public office forever but no accomplishments. it's just about how others are not good enough. but he hasn't shown anything that he had done to show he could do what he claims he will.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,955 posts)
12. It's not as bad as Harris' attack at the first debate or Booker's attack at the second. (n/t)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:47 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
3. What excitement? Where? nt
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:00 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,731 posts)
6. Sanders seems more than a little desperate.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:11 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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melman

(7,681 posts)
7. He's 100% right
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:18 PM
Sep 2019

Obviously.


And "the pledge" is a bullshit non-issue not a single person cares about. Not one. As you certainly know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. The "Pledge" is the document that BS bragged about being the FIRST to sign and then....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:31 PM
Sep 2019

....virtually demanded that all the other candidates sign it too. "Bullshit non-issue"? I suggest you tell that to BS.

BTW, very very little of what he said is "right". That's why Biden has been leading in the polls since even before he entered the race and BS has dropped to third or fourth in most of those polls. More Democrats feel that Biden is the strongest candidate than any other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
10. Well, maybe ONE.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:33 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. "Maybe ONE"?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:54 PM
Sep 2019
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-first-to-sign-pledge-to-rally-behind-whoever-wins-democratic-primary

National progressive outfit Indivisible on Thursday launched a pledge compelling all 2020 Democratic presidential candidates to rally behind the eventual nominee. Bernie Sanders was the first to sign it, the group revealed.

The “We Are Indivisible” pledge asks for three commitments from him and any other prospective signers, as first reported by BuzzFeed News. First, Indivisible’s pledge requests that candidates “make the primary constructive” by outlining their visions while respecting their opponents.

“I’ll support the ultimate Democratic nominee, whoever it is—period," the pledge also reads. “No Monday morning quarterbacking. No third-party threats. Immediately after there’s a nominee, I’ll endorse.”

And the group also wants a commitment that every candidate will “do the work to beat Trump,” including a promise that “As soon as there is a nominee, I will put myself at the disposal of the campaign.”
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,904 posts)
14. Yep, 538 shows there is an enthusiasm gap for Biden. nt
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
20. More like 1000%!!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:09 AM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. "Of course it is. Confirmed and verified."
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:04 AM
Sep 2019

' "the pledge" is a bullshit non-issue not a single person cares about.'

"Of course it is. Confirmed and verified." Natch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Of course is wasn't a "bullshit non-issue" when BS was bragging that he was the first one...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:36 AM
Sep 2019

....to sign it and cajoled the other candidates to sign it. I guess once he realized that his upper staffers and he couldn't observe the the Pledge it became a "bullshit non-issue".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,134 posts)
11. "Bernie was given the privilege of shaping the political worldview of millions of bright,
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:42 PM
Sep 2019

young, open-minded first-time voters. He chose to use his powers to convince them of a simplistic, poisonous worldview. It goes a little like this: the vast majority of Americans actually agree with Bernie's radical policies, but millionaires and billionaires have bribed our entire government as well as the DNC into doing everything they can to stop true progressive ideas. So many young progressives, once inspired by Bernie, were convinced by him to see corruption and conspiracy behind every corner, to wallow in apathy and anti-establishment helplessness." Roy Delfino.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
25. He makes a valid point.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:58 AM
Sep 2019

I'll support Joe if he is the nominee, but I can't say i'm excited about that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Joe941 (Reply #25)

 

KPN

(15,587 posts)
28. I think Bernie is right. I don't necessarily think he is generating the most excitement among the
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:33 AM
Sep 2019

current candidates nor do I think he will be the eventual nominee, but I do agree with his sentiment about Biden's ability to get out the vote among young folks in particular.

I also don't see how this violates the pledge. We don't have a nominee yet, and Bernie's statement is not disrespectful of Biden in any way. He simply stated what the polls are showing: that Biden has an excitement gap compared to at least a couple of other candidates. That's a legitimate sales pitch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
29. He knows Joe's the one to beat. Joe has taken on racism from the launch of his campaign, in fact,
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Sep 2019

going back to confronting the Raegan administration on apartheid, has the health plan with the most broad appeal, and the personality factor Bernie can never rival—likability.

Bernie has a 60’s white people’s revolution and fantasy policies plus his ever-present bitter anger.
It’s Joe who speaks to Americans heart-to-heart.

Snip————————————————————————

Jonathan Capeheart

What gave Biden’s address more power was that it wasn’t just a harangue against Trump. It was a reminder of who we are as a nation, “the soul of America,” as he called it.

Snip———————————————————————-

Biden in Iowa after El Paso massacre

What this president doesn’t understand is that unlike every other nation on earth, we're unable to define what constitutes "American" by religion, by ethnicity, or by tribe; you can't do it.
America is an idea. An idea stronger than any army, bigger than any ocean, more powerful than any dictator or tyrant. It gives hope to the most desperate people on earth….

The most powerful idea in the history of the world I think beats in the hearts of the people of this country. And it beats in all of us. No matter your race, your ethnicity. No matter your gender identity, your sexual orientation. No matter your faith. It beats in the heart of rich and poor alike. It unites America -- whether your ancestors were Native to these shores or they were brought here forcibly and enslaved, whether they were immigrants generations back, like my family from Ireland, or those coming today looking to build a better life for your family.

The American creed – that we are all created equal –was written long-ago. But the genius of every generation of Americans has opened it wider and wider and wider, to include those who have been excluded in a previous generation. That’s why it has never gathered dust in the history books.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/joe-biden-reminded-all-us-what-presidential-president-would-sound-like/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
30. Who can trust a candidate
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:30 PM
Sep 2019

who reneges on a public pledge ?

But .. kneecapping frontrunners is not a bug -- it is a feature.

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BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
31. This is disqualifying
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

Hard to trust people who don’t keep their word.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. You're right about that. My respect for him continues to decline.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019
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