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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:56 PM Sep 2019

BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN HITS 1 MILLION DONORS

Bernie Sanders campaign hits 1 million donors

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/politics/bernie-sanders-1-million-donors/index.html


CNN)Sen. Bernie Sanders has received contributions from 1 million donors, his 2020 campaign announced Thursday.

According to the campaign, it is the first Democratic presidential campaign to cross that threshold this election cycle.
"Our strength is in numbers, and that is why Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who is able to say his campaign will rely only on grassroots funding in both the primary and against Donald Trump," campaign manager Faiz Shakir said. "Like all campaigns we are beholden to our donors, and we're proud to stand with 1 million working people."
Sanders rarely holds fundraisers, and his campaign is primary funded through small, online donations.


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BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN HITS 1 MILLION DONORS (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 OP
That's according to his campaign. His FEC filings have vastly different numbers. George II Sep 2019 #1
So, if I give a dollar a day for one year does that mean DURHAM D Sep 2019 #3
I really have no idea - we've gotten different explanations or rationalizations of receipts.... George II Sep 2019 #4
The DNC certified that everyone had 60,000 unique donors to qualify for the June debate, right? bluewater Sep 2019 #12
FEC report closed on June 30. brooklynite Sep 2019 #8
I know. George II Sep 2019 #10
Meaningless. Too late. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #2
Clarification of Bernie's grass roots Fundraising ritapria Sep 2019 #5
The haters above are our resident conservatives - Democrats to be sure, but conservative side. Lucky Luciano Sep 2019 #6
That's a mighty divisive accusation there. George II Sep 2019 #11
28,000 donors? But the DNC said 60,000 unique donors were required for the June debate. bluewater Sep 2019 #13
The only thing WE have is what's posted on FEC.gov George II Sep 2019 #14
Does WE include the DNC? bluewater Sep 2019 #15
We've gone around this circle a couple of times now. But you confirmed some.... George II Sep 2019 #16
So, yes or no... do you believe the DNC when they say all 20 candidates had 60,000 unique donors? bluewater Sep 2019 #17
I'm not talking about the DNC, I'm talking about the FEC and the campaign documents filed with them. George II Sep 2019 #18
It's your right to not answer a simple direct question. bluewater Sep 2019 #20
That question is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. George II Sep 2019 #21
Par for the course LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #23
It's a myth that Sanders supporters are more liberal than anyone else. betsuni Sep 2019 #22
He lost the last primaries by 4 million votes. Will millions of Hillary voters now switch to HIM pnwmom Sep 2019 #7
Now, if only he could find voters... brooklynite Sep 2019 #9
. George II Sep 2019 #19
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. That's according to his campaign. His FEC filings have vastly different numbers.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:01 PM
Sep 2019
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DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
3. So, if I give a dollar a day for one year does that mean
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:08 PM
Sep 2019

I am counted as 365 donors? This has always confused me.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. I really have no idea - we've gotten different explanations or rationalizations of receipts....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

...his emails are a jumble of different terminology.

I will say, however, that he has ONE donor who has made a total of 825 separate contributions from March 31 through June 30. That's an average of 11 contributions PER DAY! That woman's aggregate contribution is $2,821*, making her one of those dastardly "big donors" that are bashed when other campaigns receive $2800 from an individual.

*$21 over the FEC limit!

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bluewater

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12. The DNC certified that everyone had 60,000 unique donors to qualify for the June debate, right?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:26 PM
Sep 2019

The DNC obviously verified those numbers.

So that makes the 28,000 listed to the FEC as of June 30th a moot, if not meaningless, point, right?

I trust the DNC when they told us that all TWENTY candidates that qualified for the June debate had at a minimum 60,000 unique donors.

I know... I know... only 28,000 were reported to the FEC by June 30th... but somehow... I trust the DNC when they certified 60,000 minimum for the 20 candidates that qualified for the June debate.

I am silly that way, I guess.



Are candidates even required to report the number of individual donors to the FEC? I don't think they are. They have to report the identity and address of who donated and the amount, but not a tally of the numbers.

That is why the NY Times had to estimate the number of individual donors in it's article going by donor name and zip code to estimate total donors. If the FEC had a tally of unique donors, I am sure the NY Times would have availed themselves of it.

Detailed Maps of the Donors Powering the 2020 Democratic Campaigns
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/02/us/politics/2020-democratic-fundraising.html

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brooklynite

(94,534 posts)
8. FEC report closed on June 30.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:55 PM
Sep 2019
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
5. Clarification of Bernie's grass roots Fundraising
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:16 PM
Sep 2019

Number of Individual Donors : 1 Million …. Number of Campaign Contributions : 3 million ... Avg Contribution : 18 dollars

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Lucky Luciano

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6. The haters above are our resident conservatives - Democrats to be sure, but conservative side.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

Welcome to DU.

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George II

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11. That's a mighty divisive accusation there.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:59 PM
Sep 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
13. 28,000 donors? But the DNC said 60,000 unique donors were required for the June debate.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:28 PM
Sep 2019

Was the DNC wrong?

I would be shocked if the DNC made a mistake of THAT magnitude?

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George II

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14. The only thing WE have is what's posted on FEC.gov
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:33 PM
Sep 2019
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bluewater

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15. Does WE include the DNC?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:38 PM
Sep 2019

The DNC certified that all 20 candidates had a MINIMUM of 60,000 unique donors for the June debate.



Again:

Are candidates even required to report the number of individual donors to the FEC? I don't think they are. They have to report the identity and address of who donated and the amount, but not a tally of the numbers.

That is why the NY Times had to estimate the number of individual donors in it's article going by donor name and zip code to estimate total donors. If the FEC had a tally of unique donors, I am sure the NY Times would have availed themselves of it.

Detailed Maps of the Donors Powering the 2020 Democratic Campaigns
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/02/us/politics/2020-democratic-fundraising.html
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

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16. We've gone around this circle a couple of times now. But you confirmed some....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:46 PM
Sep 2019

...of what I've been saying. We don't know for sure how many contributors they have. Even the NY Times, with all their investigative reporters and resources, says that they don't know how many unique donors there are. That's why they had to make assumptions, estimates, and extrapolations on the date Sanders' campaign filed with the FEC:

Are candidates even required to report the number of individual donors to the FEC? I don't think they are. They have to report the identity and address of who donated and the amount, but not a tally of the numbers.

That is why the NY Times had to estimate the number of individual donors in it's article going by donor name and zip code to estimate total donors. If the FEC had a tally of unique donors, I am sure the NY Times would have availed themselves of it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

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17. So, yes or no... do you believe the DNC when they say all 20 candidates had 60,000 unique donors?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:05 PM
Sep 2019

I believe the DNC.

Perhaps you should contact the DNC and ask for their verification process if you do not feel confident in accepting their word at face value.

Thanks for the discussion. And enjoy your evening.



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George II

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18. I'm not talking about the DNC, I'm talking about the FEC and the campaign documents filed with them.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:06 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

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20. It's your right to not answer a simple direct question.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:09 PM
Sep 2019

People are free to draw their own conclusions from that.

Again, thanks for the discussion and have a nice evening.

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George II

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21. That question is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:11 PM
Sep 2019
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betsuni

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22. It's a myth that Sanders supporters are more liberal than anyone else.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:12 PM
Sep 2019

According to studies from the last election: "But although Sanders voters describe themselves as more liberal than did Clinton supporters, the two groups differed little on economic policies. This was true when VOTER Survey respondents had been interviewed years earlier, in December 2011. People who became Sanders supporters were no more likely than people who became Clinton supporters to favor government-provided universal health care or tax increases on the wealthy -- although they were somewhat more likely to favor government regulation of business. Combining these three questions into an economic policy index showed Sanders and Clinton supporters to be only 0.02 points apart on a 0-1 scale." From "Identity Crisis."

According to the American National Election Studies, there is no evidence of a shift to the left in policy preference of Democrats. "Their [Sanders supporters] distinctive liberalism is mostly a matter of adopting campaign labels, not policy preference."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opinion/campaign-stops/do-sanders-supporters-favor-his-policies.html

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pnwmom

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7. He lost the last primaries by 4 million votes. Will millions of Hillary voters now switch to HIM
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:52 PM
Sep 2019

this time? Instead of Warren, Biden, or one of the others?

I don't know a single Hillary primary voter who prefers Bernie this time around. Maybe there are millions of them but I doubt it.

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brooklynite

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9. Now, if only he could find voters...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:55 PM
Sep 2019
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