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blm

(113,008 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:12 PM Sep 2019

Charles Pierce: None of the candidates seems to be having as much fun as she is

Last edited Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Elizabeth Warren Is the Teacher All the Students Hope to Get in the Fall
The happy warrior goes to the Iowa State Fair.
esquire.com

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/amp28669312/elizabeth-warren-iowa-state-fair/?__twitter_impression=true
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But the thing that's sold Elizabeth Warren to Iowa is primarily Elizabeth Warren. None of the candidates seems to be having as much fun as she is. The endless selfies after speeches. The pinky-swears with young girls about how what girls do is run for president. Her willingness to hold town halls anywhere. That loose-limbed, almost goofy wave with which she steps onto every stage. In a gloomy political time, with a humorless sociopathic bully in the White House, and with all the worst impulses of the national Id come out to play, Senator Professor Warren is the campaign's happy warrior, the teacher everybody hopes they get when school starts up again in the fall. People respond to the good feeling around her campaign as much as they respond to the blizzard of policy proposals that campaign has loosed upon the electorate.
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Odd to me that some Democrats are now claiming she has a strict teacher persona who would punish you for being late to class. Odd. One would think that Dems would be happy to have such a smart, engaging, and energetic candidate with a GREAT campaign organization. Having a great campaign organization is an extremely important asset for a general election, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Charles Pierce: None of the candidates seems to be having as much fun as she is (Original Post) blm Sep 2019 OP
as I posted before, she is the only one with a 100% comprehensive, integrated, EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #1
Comes from years studying bankruptcies filed by average people. blm Sep 2019 #7
Speaking of the 2005 Bankruptcy Law Change... dlk Sep 2019 #9
Really? One of the current Senators running KPN Sep 2019 #22
Yup Cartoonist Sep 2019 #30
Here's the roll call: LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #31
Not a current Senator RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #33
She really is an admirable woman. Smart, educated, with a clear vision. n/t ms liberty Sep 2019 #2
Kick and Rec n/t emulatorloo Sep 2019 #3
She's showing all the others how to run a grassroots campaign MsLeopard Sep 2019 #4
Kick and Recommend! sheshe2 Sep 2019 #5
Agreed. She was full zentrum Sep 2019 #6
K&R bluewater Sep 2019 #8
I Like Her Chances colsohlibgal Sep 2019 #10
There isn't much not to like about Senator Warren. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2019 #11
Wall Street is nervous Hangdog Slim Sep 2019 #12
Andrew Yang is having a ball too Generic Brad Sep 2019 #13
He does look like he's having fun. blm Sep 2019 #14
Yeh. He's got a lot going for him and appearing KPN Sep 2019 #23
I like Andrew Yang RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #35
Adore her as a person and as a candidate!! Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #15
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2019 #16
she energizes voters of all ages -- helps cancel that electoral college distortion Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #17
She's tough, but, not sneering tough. Tough, with a smile blm Sep 2019 #18
I watch the Stumpf/Wells Fargo clip for a pick-me-up BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #19
Warren and Katie Porter grilling banksters is MustSee TV blm Sep 2019 #38
She has a fantastic attitude of optimism and positivity during these dangerous times IronLionZion Sep 2019 #20
K and r. cwydro Sep 2019 #21
K&R KPN Sep 2019 #24
Okay, I've held out waiting to see who lillypaddle Sep 2019 #25
She reminds me of Harry Truman pecosbob Sep 2019 #26
That's actually an EXCELLENT point. blm Sep 2019 #36
Thanks for posting, blm! BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #27
Thank you Mr. Pierce and blm saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #28
K & R warmfeet Sep 2019 #29
"some...are now claiming she has a strict teacher persona who would punish you for being late" LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #32
Yes, the poster was called out for using a sexist stereotype and they couldn't blm Sep 2019 #37
Warren can win this. barbtries Sep 2019 #34
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
1. as I posted before, she is the only one with a 100% comprehensive, integrated,
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:20 PM
Sep 2019

and brilliant set of polices that are -- importantly --- based on and grown from authentic and progressive values.

If you planted a seed called "progressive DNA" and it grew into a mighty tree --- that's her campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
7. Comes from years studying bankruptcies filed by average people.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:18 PM
Sep 2019

She became a noted expert on the financial realities of the average American family.

Not a glamorous choice, but, my gosh, it will be a huge boon to speaking to workers of all kinds, especially those who are struggling all over, including working families in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc...

She uses the language of common sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dlk

(11,512 posts)
9. Speaking of the 2005 Bankruptcy Law Change...
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:32 PM
Sep 2019

This was another giveaway to monied interests and hurt average Americans. The Democrat in the Senate who supported and voted for that change shall remain nameless.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
22. Really? One of the current Senators running
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:30 AM
Sep 2019

actually voted in favor of it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
30. Yup
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

I remember a post here on DU that listed the names of the Democrats that voted for it. The title of the OP was: People who will never be president.

It's true, but some folks want to make someone on that list our nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
33. Not a current Senator
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:42 PM
Sep 2019

But he was one then. Later was a sort-of Senator who, had it been necessary, could have broken a tie vote in the Senate. (Hint, hint)

But also, lest we all forget, Hillary did the same damned thing, only in 2001! She voted down a bill that would have eased the path to filing for bankruptcy for people who were being crushed by heavy (up to 39% interest!) credit card debt. Oh, and I will never forget that she also gave Bush the authority to start the maniacal, greed inspired invasion of Iraq that led to so much of the hellish mess we're in today.

(Yes, case you're wondering, I lost most of my respect for her when she voted to give free rein to the forces of evil and greed. But, also yes, I voted for her in 2016 because, given the dirtbag of an opponent she had in that election, there really was no other choice.) (Slight correction: none of the faux-Americans competing against the billionaire rapist in that election would have made me vote any differently. It's amazing to recall the absolute dearth of human talent and integrity on that stage among the 15 or so Republicans running against Trump. Maybe Kasich wasn't a shallow, empty-souled greed-pig as were all of the others -- but I still would have voted for Hillary, over any of them.)

I always thought that had she not, in 2001, voted for the forces of greed and financial oppression and had she stood up, later, to the sick war mongering of President Cheney/Bush, she would have been a shoo-in for the 2008 nomination and won handily in the general election against McCain and Dumbass. I think she must spend some time each year wondering what might have been if she had only made the right choices in those instances -- especially the latter.

(Also, if the "former Senator" does manage to win the nomination, I'll vote for him and even be happy when he wins. Because anyone who doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee is, ipso facto, voting for Trump.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ms liberty

(8,557 posts)
2. She really is an admirable woman. Smart, educated, with a clear vision. n/t
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:37 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MsLeopard

(1,265 posts)
4. She's showing all the others how to run a grassroots campaign
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:49 PM
Sep 2019

One which engages real people and does not even acknowledge the BIG MONEY donors she wants nothing to with - I salute her!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,642 posts)
5. Kick and Recommend!
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:16 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
6. Agreed. She was full
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:16 PM
Sep 2019

.....of energy and humor during her NYC rally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. K&R
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:23 PM
Sep 2019

Thanks for posting this, blm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
10. I Like Her Chances
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

Still a ways off and things can change drastically, she is drawing huge crowds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NoMoreRepugs

(9,371 posts)
11. There isn't much not to like about Senator Warren.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:48 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hangdog Slim

(81 posts)
12. Wall Street is nervous
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:58 PM
Sep 2019

They see her has the new sheriff come to clean up their lawlessness. She freightens them and that tells me she is doing something right. So right on Sen. Warren!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
13. Andrew Yang is having a ball too
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:23 PM
Sep 2019

Not to detract from Senator Warren because she is definitely glowing on the trail. But Andrew Yang is approaching his candidacy with zest and appears to be having a blast. He may not be garnering the crowds she is, but I am not seeing her crowd surfing like Mr. Yang.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
14. He does look like he's having fun.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:35 PM
Sep 2019

I love it when people dance just for the joy of it. Camera always catches his little dances.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
23. Yeh. He's got a lot going for him and appearing
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:37 AM
Sep 2019

to be enjoying the grind is one of them. Has any other presidential candidate ever crowd surfed at a campaign event?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
35. I like Andrew Yang
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:52 PM
Sep 2019

No, not as a presidential candidate, but as a very interesting, creative, intelligent political presence. When President Warren is elected -- and I really think that with the "Pocohantas" smear as the absolute best the RW can do to hurt her, she'll be a shoo-in -- I hope she lures him into her administration in some capacity, maybe after discussing the matter with her Vice President, Mayor Pete!

(It's interesting that, looking at the array of potential candidates vying for the Democratic nomination, you see soooo many talented, intelligent, decent people. Compare our batch of candidates to that gaggle of vacillating, unprincipled cowards who stood on the Republican stage when the Grand Old Party vomited up Donald Trump as its nominee. Good god! Mike Huckabee? Rick Santorum? Ben Carson? Ted Cruz? Only Kasich seemed, after all, to be a man of some principles, albeit Republican principles, sincerely held. Thinking about it, he would have made the campaign much more intellectually interesting and stimulating had the Party of Putin managed to put him in the contest against Mrs. Clinton. Hillary, of course, would have won, but it would have been a contest of adults aimed at an adult audience.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
15. Adore her as a person and as a candidate!!
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:48 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,245 posts)
17. she energizes voters of all ages -- helps cancel that electoral college distortion
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:48 PM
Sep 2019

We need a candidate who gets people fired up. Warren does that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
18. She's tough, but, not sneering tough. Tough, with a smile
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:52 AM
Sep 2019

and a solution.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,345 posts)
19. I watch the Stumpf/Wells Fargo clip for a pick-me-up
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:28 AM
Sep 2019

every now and then. Hey Stumpf, did you ever promote these bogus account sign-ups to Wall St. to pump up your stock? Errr, I don’t really... “Well, here are your last 12 earnings reports and I’ve read them...” as she hoists them in the air. Gets me every time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
38. Warren and Katie Porter grilling banksters is MustSee TV
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:44 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
20. She has a fantastic attitude of optimism and positivity during these dangerous times
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:42 AM
Sep 2019

Warren-Biden might be the winning ticket, since Biden knows how to be a good VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
24. K&R
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:42 AM
Sep 2019

Go Elizabeth!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
25. Okay, I've held out waiting to see who
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:50 AM
Sep 2019

would eventually light a fire under me.

GO ELIZABETH! I believe she's got what it takes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
26. She reminds me of Harry Truman
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:12 PM
Sep 2019

He modernized the federal government. It's about time for a housecleaning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
36. That's actually an EXCELLENT point.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:35 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
27. Thanks for posting, blm!
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Sep 2019

She gives me hope!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
28. Thank you Mr. Pierce and blm
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:29 PM
Sep 2019

I hope everyone is having as much fun and as many laughs on the way to election 2020 as I am.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LudwigPastorius

(9,099 posts)
32. "some...are now claiming she has a strict teacher persona who would punish you for being late"
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:21 PM
Sep 2019

Get ready for the words "shrill" and "scolding" to come into play.

...cause they used the same shit on Hillary Clinton.

Funny how you almost never hear male candidates described that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,008 posts)
37. Yes, the poster was called out for using a sexist stereotype and they couldn't
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:37 PM
Sep 2019

understand why?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
34. Warren can win this.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:51 PM
Sep 2019

I really believe that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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