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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:29 AM Aug 2019

Politico is defending Bernie Sanders on M4A and Unions.

It's funny how people are so quick to pounce on a candidate, trying to score political points without actually looking at the facts.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/22/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-fact-check-1472482

Fact check: Did Bernie just backtrack on Medicare for All?

Critics pounced on a tweak Sanders made this week to his signature plan, but they're being misleading.

By ALICE MIRANDA OLLSTEIN and HOLLY OTTERBEIN

08/22/2019 07:14 PM EDT
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Speaking to labor officials in Iowa this week, Bernie Sanders unveiled a new twist to his “Medicare for All” plan. His centrist Democratic rivals pounced, accusing the original champion of government-run health care of softening his signature policy in order to placate angry union members.

Nonsense, his campaign responded.

So what's the deal?

The new provision is wonkish, so bear with us here. But bottom line, it would offer advantages to workers who negotiated health plans through their unions during the four years the country moved to a universal, single-payer system.

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The accusations that Sanders is flip-flopping are inaccurate. The new proposal doesn't alter anything in the original bill and private insurance will still be virtually eliminated — even if does give union members a big advantage under the plan compared to non-unions workers with private insurance.
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Politico is defending Bernie Sanders on M4A and Unions. (Original Post) HerbChestnut Aug 2019 OP
actually makes him sound worse - the huge majority of people get a worse situation msongs Aug 2019 #1
sounds reasonable... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #2
Thank you, Herb, for posting this. Duppers Aug 2019 #3
 

msongs

(67,199 posts)
1. actually makes him sound worse - the huge majority of people get a worse situation
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:48 AM
Aug 2019

than the limited number of people in unions lol. that oughta bring out the not in unions vote

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myohmy2

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2. sounds reasonable...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:54 AM
Aug 2019

" Under Sanders’ new plan, companies with union-negotiated health care coverage would have to renegotiate their workers’ contracts. The National Labor Relations Board would oversee and enforce the negotiations once Medicare for All becomes law. Any resulting health care savings from the single-payer system would be required to be returned to workers in the form of higher wages or more generous benefits.

Workers who don't belong to unions wouldn't qualify for that treatment. "

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Duppers

(28,094 posts)
3. Thank you, Herb, for posting this.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 02:55 AM
Aug 2019

A Bernie supporter here, now backing Biden because I know he can beat that sick orange pos.

Still have 💕 for Bernie.

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