Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIs the Biden Bubble About to Burst?
https://newrepublic.com/article/154835/biden-bubble-burst
But that lead may be illusory. Theres a growing sense that Biden is something of a starter nominee, a candidate that voters can glom onto while they search for someone who better suits their values. I did not meet one Biden voter who was in any way, shape or form excited about voting for Biden, Patrick Murray, who heads the Monmouth University Polling Institute (which recently released a poll giving Biden a significant lead in Iowa) told The New York Times. They feel that they have to vote for Joe Biden as the centrist candidate, to keep somebody from the left who they feel is unelectable from getting the nomination. JoAnn Hardy, who heads the Cerro Gordo County Democrats, concurred, telling the Times, Hes doing OK, but I think a lot of his initial strength was name recognition. As the voters get to meet the other candidates, he may be surpassed soon. I would not be surprised.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Jeb Bush only led nationally from May to July - losing his lead the second Trump entered the race.
Biden has led nationally in every single poll since he announced back in April.
I keep hearing, 'it's a matter of time' and he's now been running for president for four months and his lead has been remarkably stable. So...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)First votes aren't cast for another 5 months. Don't get me wrong, I like Biden as a person. He's a great guy. I just don't support him on policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I don't care if you like Biden or not - that point was silly. Biden has an extensively solid lead both nationally and in Iowa. Hillary led nationally but was much weaker in Iowa in 2008. And even then, Hillary still nearly won the nomination in 2008.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)The parallels I was referring to are the fact that both Jeb(!) and Biden are well-known front runners with established political acumen that don't have much enthusiasm surrounding their campaigns. We'll see what ends up happening, but I suspect Biden won't be the nominee in the end.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)There just isn't any realistic parallel to make your point, which is why it's silly. Biden has literally led in every single national poll going back to the beginning of the year. There were multiple polls in 2016 where Jeb was not leading. In fact, from January 1st, to July 9th, out of 24 national polls, Bush led in only 10. Biden has led in literally every national poll going back to January.
The comparison is just not the same. It's a silly comparison. If you don't think Biden will be the nominee, fine, but you should offer more than a very weak comparison as proof of why you believe this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Throwing support behind someone because supposedly they're the candidate most likely to win is a losing strategy. See 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)Biden can beat trump. trump does not want to run against Biden. You need to focus. Biden running with a strong, progressive, Dem woman will be a formidable ticket. Please focus on beating trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Biden does not inspire people to go out and vote for him. He will be entirely dependent on the anti-Trump vote, which is not going to be enough in my opinion. VP's don't matter much during general elections. People need something to vote for, not just something to vote against.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)It was used a lot against Hillary.
If you need 'inspiration', look to the man in the WH. The one Putin selected. If that does not get you out to vote for the best candidate, nothing will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)for the soul of America inspires, his comments on grief (and great speech to soldiers) through his book, the interview with Anderson have inspired thousands upon thousandshonestly, from his
dynamite launch up to now, he has delivered many inspiring moments.
Depth of character. Thats what it is.
Hes an inspiring character.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)and avoid another electoral college debacle
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Bernie polls very well there, and I expect Warren to start picking up support there as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Horizens
(637 posts)On the part of bernie bots.
bernie flatlined some time ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Plus, we're dealing with Democratic voters here, who are a lot more intelligent than republican voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)oh fuck, never mind
Hug your grands and kids, cuz some folks are gonna make sure we lose and our lives will be over soon after that.
ps
if you know a place where BASHING democrats is verboten... ... ...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)a powerful and unusually participatory VP to one of our most popular presidents, Obama.
Unlike Jeb, Biden is also an extremely popular and beloved politician with a resume that far outstrips any of his rivals.
And, of course, Bidens job-specific qualifications far exceed Jebs.
I cant imagine Jeb ever making as profound and compelling an address as Biden delivered in Iowa
after the El Paso mass murder. Jeb could never touch the heart of the nation in the way that Biden
has on more than one occasion. Just not within his range of vision.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,714 posts)Biden Slams 'Irrational' Foreign Policy as Trump Departs for G-7
Joe Biden offered a prebuttal to Donald Trumps statements on economics and foreign policy on Friday before the president was due to leave the country for the Group of Seven meeting, at which point Biden said hed refrain from critical commentary.
This week, in the lead-up to the G-7 in France, President Trump has continued his irrational and self-defeating campaign to make America less secure and less respected in the world, the former vice president said in a statement provided to Bloomberg News.
Biden, who spent decades on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has sought to use his extensive foreign policy experience as a cudgel against Trump and as a distinguishing factor with his many Democratic opponents.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287251314
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Distinguishing yourself in a positive way from other Dem primary opponents is much more difficult. Biden has yet to share a debate stage with Warren, and I bet Bernie is chomping at the bit too. This primary is far, far from over.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Bernie may be second...not sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)That is solid proof Bernie is not popular here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,272 posts)and it only has one more letter than Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)I guess I'd better think about this the next time I fly into JFK Airport or drive over the RFK Bridge.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,272 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)Isnt BS or EW
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)FRANCONIA, N.H.
Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren campaigned Wednesday in Franconia as she continues to climb in the New Hampshire polls.
Warren spoke to a crowd of more than 700 voters at a scenic farm in Franconia.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)the other candidate still won. And 700 is not that big a crowd. That being said, we shall have to wait and see.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)crowds at speeches or rallies are not votes...and don't really matter IMHO. We shall see.
Warren can't win the nomination unless she can get some AA support and thus far she hasn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)the greatest part, so far. But we haven't had a single primary yet.
And I don't think Biden helped himself today when he told his audience to imagine that Obama had been assassinated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/22/us/politics/black-voters-south-carolina-democrats-primary.html
McCLELLANVILLE, S.C. Joseph R. Biden Jr. enjoys a sizable advantage with black voters in South Carolina right now, and not just at lunch tables where they discuss candidates over freshly caught shrimp and fried fish. Recent polls have shown him with support from about 50 percent of African-American voters in the state.
It is what elevates Mr. Biden above his 22 Democratic rivals; though he is often portrayed as a champion of the white working class, he is viewed by many black voters as the play-it-safe choice who could best recreate the multiracial Obama coalition.
But many young black voters are drawn to Elizabeth Warren and her plan to cancel student debt, while others prefer Bernie Sanders and his calls for systemic change. Some black women like Kamala Harriss leadership style and her personal story as a graduate of Howard University. And some black men are sizing up Cory Booker, who employs the cadences of the black church in his stump speech.
The myriad priorities of black voters in South Carolina and across the nation suggests that, Mr. Bidens current advantage notwithstanding, the pursuit of African-American support in 2020 will be far more competitive than in 2016 and 2008. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama won more than 80 percent of black votes in the South Carolina primary, and were propelled to the nomination in large part because African-Americans in subsequent states mirrored their counterparts here.
Link to tweet
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@RealSaavedra
Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden says while campaigning tonight in New Hampshire: Imagine if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de-facto nominee. What would have happened in America?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,778 posts)good about Joe Biden.
Mahalo for the tweet, Kahuna!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,019 posts)It does bother some that despite all they say he's still topping the charts. Funny how that happens
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,972 posts)Bernie Sanders tells Sacramento rally he won't settle for defeating Donald Trump
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders campaigns at Cesar Chavez Park in Sacramento on Friday, August 22, 2019, as 4,000 supporters fill the park.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/election/presidential-election/article234294242.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)for this impressive turn out.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)maybe early February at the latest, although there's a chance it could burst even sooner than I'm thinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,910 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Which means they DO NOT WANT BS or EW.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,910 posts)since they see that their preferred candidate doesn't have an upward trajectory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,019 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,933 posts)Plus Warren has a really strong ground game in IA. Her team is energized.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,933 posts)I have no idea what you are talking about.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)measured mathematically.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)Vote for who they want
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Nope.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,006 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(4,002 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)That somehow Biden will lose significant support moving forward. I can't imagine Biden supporters suddenly abandoning him. Biden is the front-runner for many sound reasons IMO. He will mop the floor with Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
at140
(6,110 posts)I am sure of that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,246 posts)it's great alliteration: Biden Bubble Bursting writes a Hopeful and Hostile Hassin
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Some of his supporters are duct-taping the pieces and trying to blow in the spout to make it rise again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)Joe Biden, the boring candidate, thats why hes in the lead.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/19/joe-biden-exciting-candidate
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)Joe is the most electable candidate that we have
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,693 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,839 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)I don't see that going out of style.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,839 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,426 posts)The name recognition argument passed its sell-by date some time ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,839 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)gone and Biden is a good guy...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elocs
(22,540 posts)I am undecided now but I will be voting in the Wisconsin primary for somebody who is a proud member of the Democratic Party and not just somebody who uses the party for his run for president...again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Go Joe
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)Seems a little slanted to me
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)there is no evidence whatsoever to support any of his assertions. If he wrote this in a class I taught, I would give him C-;it is meaningless drivel. You can't even get a good discussion or argument going because what is in this lame article that can be discussed other than Shepard's obvious dislike of Biden...boring.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I know one person among many Democratic friends who is excited about Biden. One. I have talked with a few reluctant supporters. Sanders, Harris, and Warren seem to be getting strong support among those in my area who are rooting for a candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Like Biden because hes not promising things he cant deliver. There are a lot more moderates out there that are sticking with Joe. I personally think Joe is the only one who can win back the rust belt. Winning back the rust belt is exciting to me
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,409 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)now, when they have equal name recognition?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)It's hard to know what's going to happen. Long time. I know in the South, Joe will win and do it quite impressively. He is beloved, especially in the minority community. Now, he's not my first choice but I think people think ( right or wrong) that he is the safe bet. Agian, don't be surprised if one of the 2nd tier canidates makes it interesting as the field narrows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WA-03 Democrat
(3,037 posts)I am excited and inspired by Joe Biden! He will be a wonderful President. I am sure and confident about Biden. He is the right person at the right time.
I know you love Bernie. Thats cool, maybe you should try to post positive thoughts about Bernard?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Biden will in the nomination...he is the one who can beat Trump and has the experience we need.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,544 posts)After that encounter, Joe will either soar or sink...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)promising...just don't see. She will be hurting once she need AA votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)The AA support
JUST IMHO the AA community will stay home in 2020 as they did in 16. Then we all lose
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)for Hillary flat out say they won't vote for a woman...AA men-all Democrats! And my daughter's ex (POC) said he heard the same thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
quickesst
(6,280 posts)..... but I do believe the anti Biden crowd's heads are about to explode holding their breath waiting for it to happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Fix the damage Joe (busterbrown)
The world needs you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)I get to slam a Bud Light if I can guess an OP's preferred candidate from the content of the title. Doin' (hic) perdy damned good at it, if I do shay sho mysef (hic).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,161 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided