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This is not good and doesn't seem to be getting any better. (Original Post) mobeau69 Aug 2019 OP
Already a thread on this. Please find it and comment there. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #1
There is a rule against duplicate threads? Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #3
It is usually pointed out. If there isn't a rule, there should be. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #5
What does "15 is usually pointed out" mean? pnwmom Aug 2019 #9
Means what I said. People point it out. I pointed it out. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #12
What does the 15 mean? 15 people haven't pointed it out. pnwmom Aug 2019 #13
Maybe "15" is supposed to be "it"? Other than that, I got nothing oldsoftie Aug 2019 #14
Brilliant decode. Fixed it. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #21
That's only a rule in latest breaking news. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #28
mods used to lock duplicate threads. wyldwolf Aug 2019 #26
Only in latest breaking news -- and they still do. Otherwise, it could mean searching through days pnwmom Aug 2019 #37
Easiest way for Biden to respond: ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #2
Just like me, Joe's in his golden years. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #4
People are starting to figure it out BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #7
We shall see... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #33
Pete is my guy, and I would rather have him, Warren, or a few others before Biden, but Cosmocat Aug 2019 #8
He should do whatever the fuck he wants. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #29
No need to project your own limitations onto a peer LanternWaste Aug 2019 #30
Some people wait too long and do things like repeat themselves. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #49
I agree that we suffer from a glut of excellent candidates ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #32
any POTUS candidate you says 'I get confused' is courting disaster, especially if they have to (or Celerity Aug 2019 #41
As has been discussed before OKNancy Aug 2019 #6
False equivalencies won't hide the problem. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #10
Biden's going to be the nominee Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #15
That's exactly what has a lot of Democrats worried. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #17
Speak for yourself. Apparently more are not worried. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #18
I'll speak for myself and relate what I've read and heard from others. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #22
Pointing out other gaffes isnt a "false equivalency" oldsoftie Aug 2019 #16
Sure, and there's plenty of people that shouldn't run for President. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #19
Biden has the most job-specific qualifications, experience, and knowledge. He is the only candidate emmaverybo Aug 2019 #23
What is the objective measure of "past their time"? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #31
If we disqualify everyone who makes mistakes... TwilightZone Aug 2019 #44
You posted this in order to go after Biden...it has been posted twice... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #34
Well, that gives us a little perspective. A TV critic discussing some Biden "gaffe" said the primary emmaverybo Aug 2019 #11
Is that person running for President? mobeau69 Aug 2019 #20
Did your candidate address his issue yet? Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #35
let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #24
As somebody said yesterday, I want a complete media sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #25
The media will get right on that and everything will be fair and honest. Autumn Aug 2019 #39
I saw a great football game once wyldwolf Aug 2019 #27
SMACKDOWN!!!! Princetonian Aug 2019 #36
Ouch!! AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #40
Well, we're a long way from the end of the game. cwydro Aug 2019 #46
Of the hundreds of speeches he makes there is bound to be a wrong date, wrong name, ect... yaesu Aug 2019 #38
Symone Sanders-"I want to be very clear: this is a press narrative, not a voter narrative." Gothmog Aug 2019 #42
Your concern noted. In other news, I eat a wonderful chocolate chip cookie today. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #43
Opinion: There are more important things to worry about than Biden's gaffes Gothmog Aug 2019 #45
"Voters just don't care... they think that he's an honorable man..." Gothmog Sep 2019 #47
Meh! Who cares? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #48
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
1. Already a thread on this. Please find it and comment there. NT
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:29 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(12,965 posts)
3. There is a rule against duplicate threads?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:37 AM
Aug 2019

I didn’t know that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. It is usually pointed out. If there isn't a rule, there should be.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:48 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
9. What does "15 is usually pointed out" mean?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:59 AM
Aug 2019

The only rule about duplicates is in late breaking news.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
12. Means what I said. People point it out. I pointed it out.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:04 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
13. What does the 15 mean? 15 people haven't pointed it out.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:06 AM
Aug 2019

But lots of people do things here. That doesn't mean they're always right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
14. Maybe "15" is supposed to be "it"? Other than that, I got nothing
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:07 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
21. Brilliant decode. Fixed it.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:16 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
28. That's only a rule in latest breaking news.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:10 AM
Aug 2019

I’m pretty sure you will find thousands of duplicate threads elsewhere on the site.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
26. mods used to lock duplicate threads.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:55 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
37. Only in latest breaking news -- and they still do. Otherwise, it could mean searching through days
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:17 AM
Aug 2019

of posts looking for dupes every time you posted.

With LBN this makes sense because only news up to 12 hours old is posted, so that's all you have to look through.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
2. Easiest way for Biden to respond:
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:36 AM
Aug 2019

Just point out that the number of horrible mass shootings is so egregiously high in this country that even he gets confused as to what happened when. Then go on about your plan to stop them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
4. Just like me, Joe's in his golden years.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:44 AM
Aug 2019

There's a time to hang up your gloves and retire from the ring. I know it's my time and I hope Joe and his supporters soon realize it's his too. He should take the grandkids fishing. He's served his country and now it's time for the a new generation to take the reins. We have plenty of good candidates that can smash Don the Con.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
7. People are starting to figure it out
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:53 AM
Aug 2019

All the State Fair coverage I’ve read is filled with quotes like this:

"I like Joe Biden. I think I would prefer someone younger," said Laura Burkhalter, who works at a Des Moines art museum and cast her kernel for Warren. "It's time that we had a woman president."

Dennis Schwartz, who works for the state government in Colfax, cast his kernel for Buttigieg. Schwartz said Buttigieg is "very quick on his feet."

"I like Joe. I think he's a gentleman. I think he's past his prime," Schwartz said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457036-scenes-from-iowa-state-fair-surging-warren-harris-draw-big-crowds


Biden’s stumbles matter because his prospects are based on electability. As people grow more comfortable—and more excited—with the alternatives, he’ll fade.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
8. Pete is my guy, and I would rather have him, Warren, or a few others before Biden, but
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:56 AM
Aug 2019

I have felt all along Biden was going to have a lot of appeal, and that is playing out.

It would be better to have someone who is sharper as you note, but you have to live in the world you live in.

Things could change, but it just seems that the off ramp for the country from the craven, immoral POS old white guy is looklng like a warm, compassionate, decent old white guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
29. He should do whatever the fuck he wants.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:18 AM
Aug 2019

He served his country so he should go sit the fuck down now because you are feeling ageist?

Nah, I don’t think so.

Apparently he still has the fire in his belly and the knowledge and experience to make a great President.

Getting hung up on age is so last century.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. No need to project your own limitations onto a peer
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:35 AM
Aug 2019

We all give up/hang-up when it's right for us, not when it's right for someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
49. Some people wait too long and do things like repeat themselves.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:54 PM
Sep 2019

Some people wait too long and do things like repeat themselves.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
32. I agree that we suffer from a glut of excellent candidates
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:39 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
41. any POTUS candidate you says 'I get confused' is courting disaster, especially if they have to (or
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 01:42 PM
Aug 2019

choose to) do it more than once.

I would not recommend this course of action.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. As has been discussed before
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:50 AM
Aug 2019

Biden did meet with the Parkland kids in the Capital, but it was after he was out of office. He met with Sandy Hook parents while he was Vice President and that is probably where he got mixed up.
------------------------------
Sen. Bernie Sanders said in 2016 that New York's subway took tokens, which had been gone 13 years.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren talked on CNN of "two co-equal branches of government."
Sen. Kamala Harris referred to him as "Senator Biden" during the second debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
10. False equivalencies won't hide the problem.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:01 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
15. Biden's going to be the nominee
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:08 AM
Aug 2019

Just helping brace you for that

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
17. That's exactly what has a lot of Democrats worried.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:11 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
18. Speak for yourself. Apparently more are not worried.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:12 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
22. I'll speak for myself and relate what I've read and heard from others.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:16 AM
Aug 2019

Like you just did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
16. Pointing out other gaffes isnt a "false equivalency"
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:10 AM
Aug 2019

They happen. Plenty of other examples.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
19. Sure, and there's plenty of people that shouldn't run for President.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:13 AM
Aug 2019

Some are just not qualified and some are just past their time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
23. Biden has the most job-specific qualifications, experience, and knowledge. He is the only candidate
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:21 AM
Aug 2019

with foreign policy and relations expertise, and hands-on work in the field. He’s running ahead, not
going fishing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. What is the objective measure of "past their time"?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

And upon what data is used to make that measure? Or is this merely another "I don't need evidence to support my opinion that 2+2=5!!!"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,430 posts)
44. If we disqualify everyone who makes mistakes...
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:57 AM
Aug 2019

we won't have a nominee.

Happens to everyone, though I've noticed that the reaction tends to vary based on one's current candidate preference.

We can choose to acknowledge and understand that it's a long campaign and everyone will make mistakes (and most already have, to varying degrees), or we can keep the selective outrage machine chugging along instead of focusing on real issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
34. You posted this in order to go after Biden...it has been posted twice...
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:50 AM
Aug 2019

But it won't work...it just makes people angry to see a decent man get treated this way. So, I think such attacks help Biden...they are showing both times he spoke with shooting victims (Sandy Hook and Parkland) and he looks good doing it....and the Parkland kids came to Washington and met with Biden 18...so have at it; don't think it will work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
11. Well, that gives us a little perspective. A TV critic discussing some Biden "gaffe" said the primary
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:01 AM
Aug 2019

would be held August 15, 2015. He didn’t even catch himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
20. Is that person running for President?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:14 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
35. Did your candidate address his issue yet?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:52 AM
Aug 2019

Why not worry about him...why not explain to us why your guy is the best instead of attacking non-stop.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
25. As somebody said yesterday, I want a complete media
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:49 AM
Aug 2019

freak out for every lie Fat Donnie tells. Why write millions of words about Biden's quickly corrected "gaffs", while ignoring 10 or 11 lies per day?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
39. The media will get right on that and everything will be fair and honest.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:38 AM
Aug 2019
When pigs grow wings and fly. The media will spend hundreds of hours about Biden's quickly corrected "gaffs" showing people he's old and forgetful while showing how Trump doesn't do the same thing. That's what they do, they normalize Trumps stupidity and evilness and they will have a field day with Biden's gaffes.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
27. I saw a great football game once
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:59 AM
Aug 2019

Someone scored a touchdown and was doing an end zone dance. A player from the other team walked up to the dancing one, tapped him on the shoulder, and pointed to the scoreboard. The dancing player's team was now losing 42-7.

Enjoy your dance, Mr. 8%. I'm pointing at the scoreboard:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
36. SMACKDOWN!!!!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:02 AM
Aug 2019


wyldwolf (42,854 posts)
27. I saw a great football game once

Someone scored a touchdown and was doing an end zone dance. A player from the other team walked up to the dancing one, tapped him on the shoulder, and pointed to the scoreboard. The dancing player's team was now losing 42-7.

Enjoy your dance, Mr. 8%. I'm pointing at the scoreboard:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
46. Well, we're a long way from the end of the game.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:48 PM
Aug 2019

Time will tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
38. Of the hundreds of speeches he makes there is bound to be a wrong date, wrong name, ect...
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:30 AM
Aug 2019

he is human, we don't have any robots running, yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
42. Symone Sanders-"I want to be very clear: this is a press narrative, not a voter narrative."
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. Your concern noted. In other news, I eat a wonderful chocolate chip cookie today. nt
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 12:07 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
45. Opinion: There are more important things to worry about than Biden's gaffes
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:38 PM
Aug 2019



My response to both was the same, as it was when I was asked about the Biden issue on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports.” There is a racist sitting in the Oval Office implementing a white supremacist policy agenda. So, you focus on Biden’s mouth marbles, and I’ll keep my eyes on the prize. The prize being the eviction of Trump from the White House.

As Waldman also wrote, Trump “is waging a reelection campaign based on racism and fear,” not to mention being “the most prolific liar in American political history (he just passed 12,000 false or misleading claims).” And what makes the focus on Biden’s mouth extra aggravating is how it wipes our memories of the moronic things said by this president, as my follower @absolut_irish was so kind to remind Biden’s critics.


Some of these are funny. Some are worthy of a cocked eyebrow. But they are not nearly as consequential as the racist and white supremacist beliefs parroted by Trump and the right-wing echo chamber that found their way into the manifesto of the suspect in the El Paso mass shooting, who told police his target was "Mexicans.” The atmosphere of menace and danger is now indisputable. Your time would be better spent worrying about the shredding of our values, ideals and the rule of law than the flubs of a particular candidate who would put an end to this shameful chapter.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
47. "Voters just don't care... they think that he's an honorable man..."
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:26 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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