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TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:01 AM Mar 2019

Determined Not To Decide Yet Because of YOU!

Dear Fellow-DUers-

Yes, I'm still undecided. I'm planning on staying that way for a long time. You know why?

Because a good many of my fellow DUers are NOT undecided. And y'all are in here in this forum telling me and everyone on a daily basis why your candidate has your commitment, and what doubts you have about other candidates, and who else you like and might support if your first choice doesn't go all the way.

AND THIS MATTERS TO ME.

Enormously.

I know what I think, and what I feel. I know what appeals to me. I look at each candidate in turn and think, "I really like this/that/the other about this candidate. Not so keen on this other thing about this candidate. Keep watching."

And I know this: I am totally NOT a bellwether or an indicator or a Key Demographic-type voter. What I like, and what I think early on during an election cycle is almost NEVER what actually happens. I'm rarely, if ever, correct about what other Democrats are going to respond to in large numbers. I have the opposite of Prognosticatorial Accuracy.

So it's you that I watch.

I know why I like Kamala Harris. There's some overlap with what others like about her, but not exactly a complete correspondence. And the things I dislike about her rarely resonate with large numbers of other people who do like her.

I know why I like Bernie Sanders. There's some overlap with what others like about him, but not exactly a complete correspondence. And the things I dislike about him rarely resonate with large numbers of other people who do like him.

I know why I like Amy Klobuchar. There's some overlap with what others like about her, but not exactly a complete correspondence. And the things I dislike about her rarely resonate with large numbers of other people who do like her.

I know why I like Pete Buttigieg. There's some overlap with what others like about him, but not exactly a complete correspondence. And the things I dislike about him rarely resonate with large numbers of other people who do like him.

And so on, and so on for pretty much all the candidates.

But I DON'T always know why other people like/dislike the candidates. And the more I learn about that, the better a sense it gives me of where my own blind spots are, how my own biases affect my feelings about who "should" be the candidate, and why I should be flexible, stay interested, and keep learning.

My beliefs on issues cross the spectrum from fairly conservative to very progressive. And it's hard for me to see past what I "know" is "correct" or necessary or best for the Party or best for the country to what other Democrats equally passionately but differently believe.

This forum, and the vigorous discussion and advocacy for our candidates, including doubts freely expressed and hopes fiercely championed, is an important resource to me. I want to thank ALL of you who participate here regularly.

So far I think we're doing a pretty good job of keeping the discussion in this forum informative, lively, and constructive. As the primaries continue and the field expands and, eventually, contracts, it's going to be a challenge to keep it that way. Feelings run high. Disappointment and frustration can turn negative. I really hope we can transcend the impulse to let a powerfully desired end justify negative methods of advancing that end- at the expense of other candidates or other DUers.

I make a choice of who I like best every day. The thing is, it's different almost every day. And that's going to continue for a long time, partly because of how much I learn here about your favorite candidate, about your worries about other candidates, about what you think makes someone a good or bad choice.

I like it that way.

I'm not in a hurry.

A little over a year from now, I'll know a lot more. And I'll be able to make a better choice.

But even if my favorite doesn't become the nominee, I'll be delighted to vote for whoever IS the nominee, because I'll know how many of my fellow DUers trust that candidate and why they've been supporting her/him all along.

Thanks, y'all.

gratefully,
Bright

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Determined Not To Decide Yet Because of YOU! (Original Post) TygrBright Mar 2019 OP
What a beautiful, hopeful post, my dear TygrBright! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2019 #1
Hi Peggy! True Dough Mar 2019 #3
I so agree.... Heartstrings Mar 2019 #2
I'm really glad my primaries aren't too early lostnfound Mar 2019 #4
:) I don't think anyone should be affected at all by other posters. Hortensis Mar 2019 #5
I always wondered where the concept of horse race reporting of elections came from! rgbecker Mar 2019 #6
At the end of the day, the candidate who is elected to represent us Perseus Mar 2019 #7
Great post! We need some people to rise above the fray to keep everyone else grounded. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #8
good post Kali Mar 2019 #9
With you. Feel zero need to declare just yet. susanna Mar 2019 #10
Agreed. TomSlick Mar 2019 #11
Good on you, Tiger, Tiger, burning bright! Nitram Mar 2019 #12
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,528 posts)
1. What a beautiful, hopeful post, my dear TygrBright!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:04 AM
Mar 2019

Eloquent, too.

Thank you!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
3. Hi Peggy!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:15 AM
Mar 2019

Glad you're impressed with Pete too. He's turning heads.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
2. I so agree....
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:10 AM
Mar 2019

There’s plenty of time, no need for haste. I plan on sitting back, watching, listening and learning before I dig my heels in and declare. And the more bickering I see and hear, the more I just stay down and quiet. Not worth the energy when the real focus and enemy is sitting in the WH..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
4. I'm really glad my primaries aren't too early
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:15 AM
Mar 2019

Honestly couldn’t pick.
Terrific candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. :) I don't think anyone should be affected at all by other posters.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:17 AM
Mar 2019

It about the candidates and our own civic duty to do our important job well.

Something we do owe it to ourselves to take note of -- but again for the purpose of not allowing ourselves to fail our job as citizens -- is that professional agents, foreign and domestic, are at busily trying to tweak our minds. The battle for power is enormous and is even fought here.

Some things may be hard to spot, but when one candidate gets less than 10% of a casual poll here but receives more positive posts than all the others put together, that's not too subtle to pick up on. Investment here in defeating Democrats should be wasted effort. Even better, counterproductive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rgbecker

(4,820 posts)
6. I always wondered where the concept of horse race reporting of elections came from!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:11 AM
Mar 2019

Why don't we all watch who everyone else is supporting before we decide? Forget the policies and issues, the personalities and the background dirt. If we just wait until everyone else decides who is the best candidate we are sure to win in 2020. Hey, we could even save millions and use a crowd source computer program!

That said, there is no better place than the DU to hear all the latest on all the candidates. I do wish some of the 50% who say they are undecided would state a preference and what they are looking for...it would make the computers run much more smoothly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. At the end of the day, the candidate who is elected to represent us
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:00 PM
Mar 2019

that is the candidate we need to vote for. I will support a specific candidate, but if my candidate is not the one elected, that will not stop me from casting my vote for the one who was elected. We need to get rid of the repubs, and of course the orange buffoon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
8. Great post! We need some people to rise above the fray to keep everyone else grounded.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:33 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kali

(55,004 posts)
9. good post
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 02:55 AM
Mar 2019
I feel much the same way (with a bit more cynicism thrown in about some of the loudest partisans )
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

susanna

(5,231 posts)
10. With you. Feel zero need to declare just yet.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 04:26 AM
Mar 2019

on edit: feel, not fell (subjet line)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
11. Agreed.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 08:52 PM
Mar 2019

I see no reason to make my decision until the day I vote in the primary.

We're spoiled for choice. I intend to watch the candidates. I will watch the polls. At the last minute, I will decide which candidate best satisfies my top priority - beating Trump. When I cast that vote, I will move one to support whoever Democrats nominate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
12. Good on you, Tiger, Tiger, burning bright!
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:29 AM
Mar 2019

It is a deep field of candidates. There is plenty of time to listen to each one and evaluate them on their merits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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