Watching Joe on C-Span from yesterday in Des Moines

[mobeau69]

This is not a biggie but he should lose the polo shirts WITH the Polo Logo.

[LibDemAlways]

1. It's silly to even go there, but it's the kind of

thing the R's will go after and not let go of -- like John Kerry's windsurfing back in 04. They love to paint Dems with a broad brush as out of touch elitists. Plays right to their base. I agree. He should leave the polo label shirts at home.

[mobeau69]

7. RL is one of several clothing companies notorious for using child labor in India and elsewhere.

But I guess that's OK for some on this board.

[peggysue2]

2. Sorry, but this is dumb and dumber

Polo shirts and logos? Really?

[mobeau69]

5. Why wear a billboard for a company that uses non-union workers in foreign sweatshops?

Labeled clothing is also a status symbol for too many school aged children. We tried to raise our kids to understand that an equal or even better quality item can be had for less money. Money that can be put to better use, like contributing to charities.

I think role modeling by adults is very important for children. That's one of the things that makes me sick when I think of the current occupant of The White House and his daughter.

[highplainsdem]

3. If you think Polo shirts are elitist you haven't priced them lately. Very middle class.

[mobeau69]

8. No, I don't think they're "elitist" like many people do.

I just don't like overpriced clothing manufactured by exploiting child labor and other non-union labor in foreign sweatshops. I hope I've cleared this up for you.

[highplainsdem]

13. I'd seen tweets criticizing Biden for the supposed cost of the shirt. Btw, Lauren is one of Michelle

Obama's favorite designers.

[mobeau69]

15. And that's unfortunate.

[Butterflylady]

4. Maybe your guy

Might wear something different. White shirt and is all ive ever seen him wear.

Sounds silly, doesn't it.

Maybe that's why you shouldn't go there.

[mobeau69]

6. Why be critical of the size of someones wardrobe?

The size of Joe's or Pete's wardrobe isn't the point. As long as that wardrobe isn't full of clothing with billboards for companies that prey on non-union workers in foreign sweatshops is OK with me.

Pete does remind me of Obama in the early years wearing what seemed to be the same dark suit and dark tie everyday. I remember him even joking about it more than once.

[Demsrule86]

11. More anti-Biden bs...scraping the bottom...almost every shirt in American is made by non-union

sweatshop workers...drive through Georgia or parts of Virginia and look at the garment industry in ruins. So your attacking Joe for wearing polo is nonsense. NO matter how much you attack Joe, your candidate will not be the nominee. Of course if I am wrong, Mayor Pete has my vote.

[mobeau69]

16. You know, this wasn't an attack. It was merely a suggestion.

Seems like any criticism of Joe by anyone is seen a an "attack".

The conditions in Georgia may be bad but they don't compare to the child labor conditions in India and other 3rd world countries.

[Demsrule86]

17. It is an attack aimed straight at his union support in the Mid West...you posted an article and

everything. Georgia doesn't have any garment factories these days...they were shut down years ago...and garments are now made mostly overseas...very little is made here. I imagine the white shirts worn by your candidate were likely made in a third world hell hole that includes child labor...most are. The garment industry and electronics industry were the first victims of so called free trade. I referred to shuttered factories...in towns where folks still live in unimaginable poverty...as the jobs were not replaced.

[Green Line]

9. This is just getting silly now

Who cares what he wears?

[mobeau69]

10. Silly? Do some research and think about it.

https://labs.theguardian.com/unicef-child-labour/

[Demsrule86]

12. do some research yourself...little is made here these days.

Nice try though...

[mobeau69]

14. It's not a matter of where they made. It's the conditions under which they are made.

Some companies, like RL, have profited off of child labor in countries like India.

You may think it's OK but I don't.

[Demsrule86]

18. The conditions are universally horrifying- overseas...your selective outrage is duly noted...perhaps

you could travel to Vietnam or China and demand reform.

[Demsrule86]

19. Did you ask the other candidate where there clothes are made? Such an important issue and all.

Seriously though this just reeks of pettiness. Everyone know clothing and phones are made overseas as well as electronic...did you know those who make the I Phone and some Androids are kept prisoner basically and there are suicide nets to stop them from killing themselves. This is why I object to so called free trade...but has nothing to do with Biden's shirt.

[MicaelS]

20. Agree 100%.

Sheer pettiness.

[mobeau69]

21. I agree with a lot of what you write here.

I know it may sound petty to some. That's why the very first sentence of my original post began with "This is not a biggie".

My point is that while we don't have a much of a choice thee days we still don't have to wear their fucking labels. I don't buy a lot of clothing since I retired but when I did I always looked for a similar item without the label for others to see. I don't like being a billboard for companies that exploit workers. That is all.

My other point is that a lot of parents of school aged children can't afford the "top" or "in" brands like other more well off parents can. That is one thing I like abut Catholic school uniforms. It cuts out all the status bullshit to provide a better environment for learning for all the children, rich or poor.