Tuesday Debate Thread 🧵 #1

[Funtatlaguy]

Have at it, Dems!

[Funtatlaguy]

1. I'm nervous for everyone.

[TruckFump]

7. Yeah, me, too.

I just hope they don't attack each other.

We need to be united IMO.

[MustLoveBeagles]

14. I really want Beto and Amy to do well

[ecstatic]

2. This Star Spangled Banner part is so unnecessary.

Get to it!

[Clash City Rocker]

4. I guess we have to do that before everything now

[dsc]

6. but that chorus was amqzing

[pangaia]

11. I don't like those supped up versions

I much prefer the Marine Band playing it straight up.Or something simple, creatively arranged.

The best version I ever heard was at the 1964 Worlds' Fair in NYC at the American Pavilion...

[customerserviceguy]

3. What, Ryan

couldn't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem? Even Williamson did after she realized everybody else was doing it.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. That's only protocol for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Repubs tried to make it “mandatory” for “real” Americans after 9/11.

[customerserviceguy]

19. Well, I didn't see any hesitation

from eight of the ten.

[dflprincess]

136. I've been trying to figure out when the anthem thing started

I was taught, hand over your heart for the pledge. Stand up straight and be respectful during the and, at least, mouth the words if you know them (and, of course, gentlemen remove their hats, ladies don't have to.)

I still don't put my hand over my heart for the song.

[GoCubsGo]

140. Yeah, I have never put my hand over my heart for the anthem.

We were never taught this. It probably started after 9-11, which was when "flag pin" nonsense started. Just more right-wing, made-up, pseudo-patriotism bullshit.

[CentralMass]

143. That is not correct.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
36 U.S. Code § 301. National anthem
" (a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed."

[TruckFump]

5. KnR for visibility

[nolabear]

9. Listened to Perez on the way home. Was he as amazing on TV?

Damn, he took it where it needed to go!

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. Thx for doing these. Watching the Red Sox on my laptop

[Funtatlaguy]

12. Your candidate looks great, by the way.

[ecstatic]

13. Bullock - I think this is Rachel's guy

based on my reading between the lines.

He looks good so far!

[MustLoveBeagles]

21. I'm glad he made this debate

[BeyondGeography]

15. Bullock is annoying

[ecstatic]

22. lol. Was it his crack about big ideas and revolutions? nt

[BeyondGeography]

31. He puts the PROGRESS in progressive

Ooooooh.

[Celerity]

33. Bullock is awesome, really like him, he is cut from presidential timber.

He has a political future, even if not this go-round.

[JI7]

40. he would win for sure

[nolabear]

16. Hmmmm...Bullock starts kind of meh, but at least going after 45.

[Funtatlaguy]

17. Bullock introduced himself well to nation.

[elleng]

25. I agree.

[nolabear]

18. Does Williamson sound like Barbara Streisand?

I know, shallow. But it’s just starting.

[Funtatlaguy]

20. Marianne looks so white on my tv. Like a ghost.

Wearing strange necklace.
I’m sorry, I wish Sestak, Steyer, or Moulton was there instead of her.

[customerserviceguy]

29. She looked like Mrs. Skeletor to me. n/t

[nolabear]

23. Oh, Delaney...*sigh*

[Funtatlaguy]

24. Delaney very smoothie intro.

[elleng]

27. Too negative, imo.

[BeyondGeography]

26. Nice try, Delaney

[Funtatlaguy]

28. I like how conversational Ryan is. But, too moderate for me.

[Funtatlaguy]

30. Hickenlooper calls himself pragmatic progressive...hmmm.

[Blue_true]

98. That is accurate for him.

He got some ground-breaking progressive changes done while Denver Mayor and Colorado Governor. He also supported oil, but that is a huge part of the economy of his state, like biotech is for Warren or defense for Sanders.

[nolabear]

32. I hope Amy does well. I like her.

[highplainsdem]

36. I do, too.

[LuvLoogie]

45. Yep. Me too.

Can you imagine Harris/Klobuchar? That might be my alternative ticket to Biden/Harris.

[Funtatlaguy]

34. Amy goes after Trump at top...then intros herself.

First to mention racist attacks.
Calls herself a realist that has always won her races.

[Funtatlaguy]

35. Beto not as nervous as In Miami. Still needs to look right at camera.

[nolabear]

38. He did do better.

I’m glad.

[FailureToCommunicate]

142. Beto's was easily the best opening statement tonight, IMHO.

[DesertRat]

37. These speeches are a waste of time. Let's get to the questions and answers!

[Funtatlaguy]

39. Mayor Pete frames fight vs Trump well, I thought.

First to bring up climate change.

[elleng]

42. He always does.

[nolabear]

41. Heck, so far I like Mayor Pete's opening best.

Wait...Warren is all over 45. 😄

[madaboutharry]

43. I really hope Amy and Mayor Pete do well.

[Funtatlaguy]

44. Warren calls Trump disgrace. Pledges to help nominee beat him.

Then gives mini stump speech.

[BeyondGeography]

46. Spinelessness!!!

She went there.

[Funtatlaguy]

47. Sanders starts with health care.

Like Warren, he gives mini stump speech.

[nolabear]

48. Bernie's going for the top 1% and should hit 45 and the GOP harder.

[BeyondGeography]

49. Delaney beaming

He said my name!

[customerserviceguy]

51. Hey, he gets an extra 30 seconds... n/t

[Funtatlaguy]

50. Sanders says Delaney wrong on health care.

Uses Canada as good example.

[Funtatlaguy]

52. Delaney says we must keep private option.

[customerserviceguy]

57. Delaney

has gotten a lot of time for a lower tier candidate so far...

[appalachiablue]

53. Tell it Bernie, healthcare IS a human right! See Canada, etc.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

131. Even Iraq says that as part of their constitution

We invaded to give them that right. Why can't we do the same for our own?

[appalachiablue]

134. Amen, it's a matter of life and death, esp. here.

[Funtatlaguy]

54. Sanders says profit must be taken out.

[katmondoo]

65. Bernie screaming again and angry

[DesertRat]

55. Pete said Democrats can't win by recycling candidates.

Ouch

[Cha]

109. "Ouch" for Pete... We'll support President Obama's

Vice President if we want to.. and he happens to be leading.

[nolabear]

56. You know, Delaney isn't doing badly.

Let’s see how Warren does.

[customerserviceguy]

64. He's kept steady

Warren looked a little, well, "scoldy".

[True Dough]

58. Waaaay too much Delaney to open this debate

He's wormed his way into the spotlight. STOP!

[MrsCoffee]

61. Warren settled him right down, lol.

[nolabear]

59. Warren came to play!

[madaboutharry]

60. It took less than 2 minutes for the candidates

to start ignoring Jake Tapper.

[ecstatic]

62. "Stop using republican talking points!!!"

[Funtatlaguy]

63. Warren jumps in. Says to Delaney don't use Repub talking points.

Jake Tapper interrupts her on time.

[demmiblue]

66. Damn, Sen. Warren!

Noice.

[Funtatlaguy]

67. Somebody else want to summarize? I gotta go potty.

[TheCowsCameHome]

77. Save it for Trump's grave.

[nolabear]

68. Hmmm...stumble on the story. Good stump but bad debate.

[RhodeIslandOne]

69. John Delaney sucks

This guy is kidding, right?

[customerserviceguy]

74. He's a good foil

for both Sanders and Warren to play off of, to see who can defend MFA better than the other.

[elleng]

90. if he's not given the opportunity to explain himself.

He doesn't 'suck,' and he's not kidding.

[RhodeIslandOne]

96. He's wrong

And he's already changed his opinion. Now he wants MFA. He said it.

He's wasting everyone's time.

[ecstatic]

70. Warren is on fire, great delivery.

Tapper is so annoying and biased.

[elleng]

71. Mistake to get into details of everyone's healthcare plans, imo.

Lets grant that it's a basic right.

[Mersky]

72. Excellent turn, Warren!

Defending Dems and turning it back on Republicans about healthcare.

[True Dough]

73. Who was the poor sucker who laughed as Warren started her ALS story?

She put that person in their place. Would have been awfully uncomfortable for him/her!

[appalachiablue]

75. Warren On It, we're Not about 'taking anything away,' that's the Repubs.

Ady Barkan, terminal ALS patient w insurance says 9k per month...outrageous.

[ecstatic]

76. Pete is so articulate. Love it! nt

[ecstatic]

78. The DNC should have insisted on a democratic moderator

Tapper is focusing on the wrong things. Everytime he asks a rightwing framed question, they need to immediately reframe it into what matters.

[BeyondGeography]

81. And when someone gets rolling with a good answer the clock goes off

Tapper sucks.

[demtenjeep]

79. Bullock is an ass

he should have stayed off the stage

[Celerity]

93. Nope nt

[nolabear]

80. Whoa! Beto answered the question!

No. The others all gave “all things being equal” replies. I don’t mind that but he laid it out.

[MustLoveBeagles]

82. He's doing better tonight

He's doing better tonight, at least so far. I hope he keeps it up.

[nolabear]

86. He is. Good to see.

[customerserviceguy]

89. He hasn't been challenged much yet

Not like what Castro did.

[nolabear]

92. True dat. We'll see. Lots of scrapping so far.

[Indygram]

114. The moderators aren't trash tonight

They were terrible for the first half of the first debate.

[JI7]

85. Beto is full of substance

[BeyondGeography]

83. Bernie says STFU Jake

[nolabear]

84. Call him out, Bernie!

[BumRushDaShow]

87. This is a really interesting topic to get the different views...

[BeyondGeography]

88. Delaney putting the BUSINESS back in health care

[customerserviceguy]

91. He's gotten a LOT of talk time.

[elleng]

100. Not enough to explain himself.

[BeyondGeography]

94. Tapper going after Warren with pretty much every question

Scumbag.

[True Dough]

95. I thought Marianne was breaking into a yodel there

[nolabear]

97. Mayor Pete, speaking truth!

They’ll call us Socialists. No matter what.

[customerserviceguy]

101. Is it my imagination

or is Pete moving a bit to the left this time?

[nolabear]

107. Not sure. I'll confess I'm not an expert on his policies.

[femmedem]

115. So far it's consistent with what I've heard him say. n/t

[Mersky]

105. Yes, he did!

Speak truth about republicans batting around words like socialists.

[demtenjeep]

119. he is correct

I like him

[IcyPeas]

135. that was funny

[Funtatlaguy]

99. Still on health care? I took a long 💩 too.

[elleng]

113. Wasting everyone's time, imo,

trying to explain too damn complex proposals.

and then interrupt.

[BeyondGeography]

102. Tim Ryan dusting off those GOP points

Goodbye Tim.

[nolabear]

103. They're really trying to saddle Warren with Sanders.

Interesting tactic.

[ecstatic]

104. I'm trying, but I have a hard time with Bernie's yelling

There doesn't appear to be an in between mode with him.

[BeyondGeography]

106. Don't fuck with Bernie lol!

[RhodeIslandOne]

108. STFU, Timmy!

Get off the stage. Another waste of time.

[Funtatlaguy]

110. Sanders tells off Ryan.

[True Dough]

111. "I wrote the damn bill!"

Soundbite of the night so far from Bernie.

[demtenjeep]

126. best line of the debate from him

he is honest

[demmiblue]

112. I do know, I wrote the damn bill. Lol!

[ecstatic]

117. Bernie is in full get off my lawn mode. nt

[Funtatlaguy]

116. Sanders now tells off Delaney

He is pissed.

[BeyondGeography]

118. Tapper is the John Delaney Reconstruction Project

Fuck you, Jake.

[True Dough]

120. Bernie opened a can of whoop-ass on Delaney relating to health care

Delaney should just slink off the stage before the gong sounds.

[demmiblue]

121. Damn, it's getting real.

[elleng]

123. Real and unnecessarily complex for a forum such as this.

[Funtatlaguy]

122. Dana changes subject to Immigration. Somebody start thread 2?

[MustLoveBeagles]

127. I just did

[efhmc]

124. I am really antibernie but I do love it when he said "I wrote the damn bill".

as to how he knows what is in the health care bill. That was spectacular.

[Celerity]

128. Agree on both

[jcgoldie]

133. Bernie is having a great night

He and Warren both oozing authenticity.

[efhmc]

137. I think they are both authentic which is something I respect.

[ecstatic]

125. Why are they asking trump's questions? Why can't these moderators ask

important questions instead of MAGAt bait?

[blm]

129. CNN moderators are gunning for Warren, interrupting her response every time.

Treating her with disrespect.

[Duppers]

130. Agreed.

[BeyondGeography]

132. And asking other candidates to refute her and Bernie directly

This whole debate is the moderate reconstruction project.

[efhmc]

139. She has a vagina. What else do you need to know?

[Mersky]

138. Having some connectivity issues thru the CNN app

I'll post comments with time stamps later.

[Clash City Rocker]

141. I would have to say, most of them sound really good

I’m not necessarily happy about that, I’d like to narrow the field a little. But most of them have presented good points. Holy crap, we have all these great candidates, and all the Republicans have is a dufus who doesn’t have an answer to anything.