Bernie Sanders Has MSNBC Tripping Over Words

[Uncle Joe]

Good interview.

[qazplm135]

1. "the disdain for Bernie Sanders"

"...that you would never see for any other candidate"

Except of course, the disdain for Hillary Clinton among Sanders' supporters in the Dem Primary (and after).

[efhmc]

2. Distain is actually a nicer word than I would use.

nt

[Vegas Roller]

3. And now directed at real Democrats nt

[mcar]

8. And among the "liberal" media

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

4. The dwindling bernie media fan club

Tyt sam seder and pakman

[SouthernProgressive]

5. TYT? Shouldn't spread rw sources. NT

[George II]

6. I'm glad they put that "TYT" in the upper corner, saved me from clicking on the video.

[Politicub]

9. Ha! I saw that, too, and decided not to click it either.

[Gothmog]

12. Same here

[ProfessorPlum]

10. you are so off base.

[SouthernProgressive]

14. No, I am not. He has a long standing history of being a sexist right winger.

He spends most all of his efforts on damaging the progressive movement while making bank off off uneducated folks.

He is a more intelligent form of HA Goodman.

How did Cenks rally to change the election go? The most important rally in recent history, as Cenks egotistical ass called it.

[ProfessorPlum]

15. If by long you mean decades ago

His show is progressive, pro-women, and much farther to the left than DU. Don't dump on allies.

[SouthernProgressive]

16. That's not the left. He is no ally.

He calls Pelosi the “serial bungler.”

Go tell him to stop dumping on allies. He and Trump making up shitty names for Democrats. You are telling me to stick up for him as an ally when he intentionally and relentlessly goes after progressives and great Democrats.

[TheFarseer]

18. Sports analogy

Just because a fan wants a “failing” coach fired, doesn’t mean they aren’t a fan. We can talk about if the coach is “failing” or not, but it’s insulting to question someone’s fandom in this scenario. Cenk absolutely told TYT viewers to vote Hillary.

[SouthernProgressive]

19. Your sports amplify is way off the mark.

Cent has relentlessly attacked Clinton.

He plays for the other team and tailors his message to those who get excited about deflection, Trump like names, and brazen dishonesty. He simply found easy marks to make money off of.

[ProfessorPlum]

20. this is simply a dishonest, ad hominem attack

Cenk got behind Clinton after the primaries, when Trump was still a threat. He is not right wing at all, and goes for reason- and science-based policy solutions and progressive politics.

I don't know who "Cent" is, you obviously don't ever watch the show.

[SouthernProgressive]

22. This is dishonest.

"you obviously don't ever watch the show."

Sorry "Cent" threw you for a loop. I think most would make the connection.

"I don't know who "Cent" is"

Link to tweet

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He is shocked it wasn't a higher percentage. He worked his ass off to damage Clinton.

Link to tweet

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"Here’s who 100% responsible: the losers at the DNC and Hillary Clinton and her entire staff, that’s who is responsible,” Uygur said. "We were right and they were wrong. We said pick Bernie Sanders who had a lead over Trump, but in their incompetence and corruption they said no, we all want to have jobs and Hillary will give us a job even though she’s demonstrably the worst candidate according to the polling." Cenk

He promoted Clinton as such all of the way along. Cenk got who he worked hard for. It's the message he delivered to low information voters.

“Tell the American people why you want to be president, how are you going to help them? More of the same is the worst platform I’ve ever seen!”

There is another mind boggling ignorant comment of Cenk that went out to his minions.

He is corrupt. Mentally bankrupt. He trashed Clinton relentlessly and then said "yeah, I voted for her." Well, his disciples didn't at his own direction.

Here he is running with a known blatant tactic when your audience is nothing but low information voters.

https://www.facebook.com/CenkUygurOfficial/posts/former-hillary-clinton-staffers-have-decided-to-attack-bernie-sanders-and-cenk-u/1174894192697917/

Look at what he did to his minions if they supported Clinton. It's disgusting.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/6/23/1309139/-Delusional-Cenk-Uygur-Attacks-Paying-Members-of-His-Own-Network-Because-They-Support-Hillary-2016

You see, I have facts on my side.

Would you like to discuss his overt sexism next?

[ProfessorPlum]

23. he thought Clinton was a great choice compared to Trump

and wanted the Democratic party to pick someone else as their candidate.

Do you have something where he supported Trump or any right-winger over Clinton?

[SouthernProgressive]

24. That's funny.

The ratfuckers efforts are there for all to see.

Cenk is about money. Not one other thing.

He is currently doing the same thing. It's lining his bank accounts with the money of low information voters.

[TheFarseer]

26. You're demonizing supporting your candidate in a primary

Based on differences on issues. I think you’re allowed to do that. June 2016 was a bad time to take a poll, right after a contentious primary wrapped up, and get a sincere answer. Anyway, I like tyt because they have a policy bias and make no bones about it. There are too many things to respond to but how is he corrupt? They’re trying to get money out of politics. That’s the opposite of corrupt! Who is shelling out big bucks to advocate for MFA and $15 minimum wage or green new deal? No one! How are those 3 ideas mentally bankrupt? You’re argument doesn’t make any sense!

[SouthernProgressive]

27. He is currently lying about Democrats in the primary.

That is not a policy bias. He flat out lies about Democrats. Has a long history of doing it.

He has a niche he has been able to make bank off of.

All you have to do is actually listen to him to tell he is mentally bankrupt.

Those who are passionate about him don't know history. HA Goodman fooled the same group.

[TheFarseer]

28. Mentally bankrupt?

In addition to MFA, green new deal, $15 minimum wage and other smaller policies, they put together a PAC to amend the constitution to get money out of politics with public financing. But overhauling our election cycle so people decide elections instead of money is mentally bankrupt I guess.

Also, I think you are misidentifying opinions you don’t agree with as lies.

[SouthernProgressive]

31. He has a long history of lying about Democrats and making names for them.

Just like Trump.

He is mentally bankrupt. It's there for all to see.

Maybe he should get back together with Scaramucci.

[TheFarseer]

35. You keep making assertions

And not backing it up with anything when challenged. Care to respond or just make your baseless assertion again?

[ProfessorPlum]

29. thank you

the argument doesn't make any sense, and it is clearly just a dishonest attack.

[SouthernProgressive]

32. You use that word again.

Tho the only dishonest comments to this point in our conversation have been in your replies. I highlighted one above.

[ProfessorPlum]

36. that's a great analogy

[ProfessorPlum]

21. Is Pelosi supposed to be a "progressive" in your fantasy scenario?

[SouthernProgressive]

25. Please outline the "fantasy" you are referring to.

Fantasies are just published papers from the sixties, you know.

Pelosi is a progressive. Only a complete idiot would argue to the contrary.

Except people like Cenk. He argues she isn't one and makes up Trump like names for her because is lines his bank accounts.

[ProfessorPlum]

30. so . . . your position is that Cenk is to the _right_ of Pelosi?

Just want to clarify that.

[SouthernProgressive]

33. Why move away from your half claim that Pelosi isn't a progressive? That is Cenk light.

Stay on track with your own comments. Don't just keep kicking the can down the road as I pull out actual quote after actual quote. This is what Cenk is good at. Getting people with phrases who have little consideration for history (TYT) or facts.

[ProfessorPlum]

34. so, you would say that Pelosi is more progressive than Cenk?

[JudyM]

7. Glad you posted this. I agree it's a good interview, explores good points.

Sanders is making a more structural case. I’m a passionate proponent of anti-corruption controls but the issues really go deeper. I’m not committed to him, but Sanders has demonstrated courage in being willing to go against consensus. I see Biden as being all about consensus, which is fine for folks who don’t see things as needing big fixes. (I still need to hear more from Warren.)

But we will simply never get rethug consensus on some absolutely urgent matters. Like giant steps that are now necessary to combat climate change and the rapidly accelerating destruction of rainforests and ocean life. We are where we are on that right now not because of tRump, but because of years of rethug refusal to step away from their donors and address the effing problem.

And like our grossly skewed election infrastructure, on which everything else ultimately depends.

And the refugee detention camps.

When tRump’s gone we will still have an irretractable mess because of the immoral, starkly unjust and unpatriotic Republican Party mentality. Which has only become emboldened by tRump’s administration and by mcconnel’s untouchable actions in STEALING a Supreme Court seat, in refusing to touch election protection, and on and on.

The time for playing nice with them is over.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Thanks for viewing the video JudyM

and thanks for your gracious post.

[Gothmog]

11. Who cares what Cenk or the TYT think about anything?

[Gothmog]

13. sanders is fighting with the mainstream media and losing

Is there any mainstream media source that sanders is not fighting with?

Link to tweet

"This isn't intended to be a sweeping generalization of all journalists,” he told POLITICO, “but there are a healthy number who just find Bernie annoying, discount his seriousness, and wish his supporters and movement would just go away.”...

Journalists who cover Sanders, meanwhile, dispute many of those criticisms. They say if he gets less attention than other candidates, it’s because he’s often unwilling to address breaking news and shies away from impromptu Q&A sessions, or gaggles, after events.....

Sanders “wants to talk about what he wants to talk about, when he wants to talk about it,” said one reporter who covered the candidate in 2016 and 2019. “And he doesn't see the value of talking to reporters about what they want to talk about because, in part, he thinks they’re going to talk about what he considers stupid stuff.”

He doesn’t hesitate to make that disdain known, either. The New York Times disclosed in May that Sanders declined an interview for a piece on his time as mayor of Burlington, Vt., including a 1985 meeting with Daniel Ortega, the president of Nicaragua and a foe of the Reagan administration. After the story was published, Sanders requested a phone interview, eventually telling the reporter, “You don’t understand a word that I’m saying.”....

He doesn’t have much patience for reporters who want him to talk about anything other than that agenda. “Good Morning America” host George Stephanopoulos kicked off an interview Thursday by telling Sanders that voters want to know more about him as a person.