The Sanders campaign compared Bidens healthcare plan to 42 Sept 11th terrorist attacks.

[SouthernProgressive]

Sanders is telling people that Biden and Trump are the same when it comes to healthcare. A number of his top advisors relentlessly attack the party and direct people to vote for third parties. We know that a couple of them truly helped to elect Trump. There were much bigger reasons that Trump won but they played their own role.

There is no doubt he is running a scorched earth campaign. Biden is their current target.

So how is this going to work? What is his end game? It makes little sense.

Someone posted a link to Sanders website today and it was “who said it, Biden or Trump?”I was taken back a bit by it. I can’t imagine supporting that. I started looking around and his campaign is going after Biden in some highly questionable ways. It’s clearly a strategy from the top.

I wasn’t aware they were being this aggressive. Really interesting seeing this tactic. They no longer seem to be going for a larger audience. I’m guessing that the campaign tactic is simple. Muddy the water.

Note: If there is anything incorrect with my subject line or first paragraph please let me know. I have tried to be fair and accurate with a tactic I’m seeing them use.

[still_one]

1. Unless you can produce the link I would advise you to self-delete

[SouthernProgressive]

2. Link to which one.

I’ll provide it.

[still_one]

3. Comparing Biden's Healthcare plan to 9/11. I am not questioning what you observed, but it will

definitely create pushback I suspect without a link

Saying something like that is disgraceful, and outrageous, let alone just plane bad politics

It was just a suggestion of course

[SouthernProgressive]

4. Maybe I've been duped.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287202541

[still_one]

6. Thanks, appreciate the link

[comradebillyboy]

17. It's from a David Sirota tweet.

[still_one]

19. Thanks. Since Sirota is part of his campaign, then by proxy it is the same thing, unless he

refutes it

[SouthernProgressive]

21. I probably wouldn't have worded it as I did...

If I hadn’t seen Sirotas recent tweets and then the link on Sanders campaign website. Those aren’t the only two places you see where people directly connected were building it up. The tactic was from the top. That’s not happening without his approval.

[still_one]

22. I hear ya. Thanks

[Cha]

24. Here ya go.. It's my OP, still_one..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287202541

[still_one]

25. Thanks Cha. The OP supplied the link, and I remember it now. Slipped my mind

won’t happen again

[Cha]

26. It's Good.. gives us a chance

to make it even more clear what Sirota and BS are up to.

[still_one]

28. What the Sirota's did in 2016 cannot be forgotten, especially since they are doing the same thing

again

[Cha]

30. Yeah, Sirota is just showing off why

he had to delete over 20,000 tweets when BS hired him.

[left-of-center2012]

5. They're going back 42 years

There was a post on DU today attacking Biden for something he said 42 years ago!

42 years ago !

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=203199

[George II]

7. Surely they don't want to open up digging back 40+ years.

[Thekaspervote]

20. Especially mr. Sanders 40+ yrs ago will not be a good look for his campaign

[Autumn]

29. Going back 40 years on Bernie's history happens all the time George. As you well know.

[George II]

31. Not entirely, but whatever, Why do find that funny, Autumn?

[Autumn]

36. It is funny to see outrage that something about Joe is posted from 77

but for Bernie, going back to 72 is vetting. That's funny George.

[SouthernProgressive]

62. Sanders wasn't doing so well in his thirties.

Some of his actions in his thirties were prevalent in his 2016 campaign.

[still_one]

10. The haters are sure out today

[Hav]

14. It's not only about going back that far

It's intentionally fudging around with the subject line to change the meaning drastically into something that Biden didn't say. It's remarkable that something that dishonest and malicious can stand on DU.

[MustLoveBeagles]

23. It's really sad to see this on DU

[mcar]

8. This is simply unacceptable

Sanders needs to set his campaign straight or admit that he agrees with this awful remark.

[still_one]

11. If he says nothing, that speaks volumes

[mcar]

13. It sure does

[Gothmog]

16. This is a violation of sanders' pledge not to go negative

[mcar]

18. I forgot about the pledge

Hasn't he broken it several times already?

[Cha]

27. BS hired Sirota for a reason.

[George II]

9. Amazing that someone from New York, of all places, would draw ANY parallel to Sept. 11 2001.

[still_one]

12. It sure is

[JI7]

15. he hasn't been from new York for like 60 years

[George II]

33. He talks about it frequently, even went to Brooklyn to announce his candidacy.

[Cha]

43. That's right! So it's super awful that someone

from New York would try to pull this 9/11 terrorist allusion to Joe Biden's Health plan that builds on the original ACA.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[tymorial]

52. By his accent one would think he still lives there

Funny how most people's accents fade over time when they are removed from that area. Mine did when I moved from Rhode Island to New Hampshire. But you know Vermont is just like Brooklyn... cough.

[Nanjeanne]

32. Can you please provide the link to Sirota's tweet that actually says this. Not a photo

of a tweet by someone else. Ive been all over Sirota’s twitter feed looking for this but can find nothing. Especially checked out the date and time on the bottom of the picture of the tweet. Still nothing. There is a tweet by Sirota with that picture. . But not those words.

[SouthernProgressive]

34. It's my understanding that it was verified.

Even by multiple people here. If he deleted it or changed it i would understand. It was a bad campaign move.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287202541#post11

Thanks for letting us know they realized how bad it was. You think that would have been cleared up before it went public.

[Nanjeanne]

38. I haven't seen anything that verifies it. Only a photo. Not a real tweet. I think the

person who deleted it may be the person who posted it. I think your understanding is incorrect and I didn’t support it nor do I support this post about an anonymous person posting a photo of what they claim is a tweet that is no where to be found.

But whatever. No wonder trolls were able to influence so many. People really don’t care if it’s factual at all as long as it supports their bias.

[betsuni]

40. I saw it on his Twitter feed yesterday.

Clicked on the tweet someone posted, scrolled down and found it.

[Cha]

46. Exactly.. that's what I told her to do.

[George II]

54. But consistent with Sirota's MO, he tweets something offensive, leaves it up there for a few hours..

...then deletes it.

That's why, when someone sees something like that, they take screen shots. But even though he deleted the original, most offensive tweet, he added four with similar wording minus the offensive reference to September 11.

[Cha]

44. Go to Sirota's Twiter page.. I saw it on there Yesterday.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[SouthernProgressive]

47. It's so bad that you refuse to believe it was even there.

[Cha]

49. Exactly.

[Nanjeanne]

50. I believe it was a direct quote from a policy paper about the HC debate. Not a quote

from Sirota. Cause I actually read the article. Which was very interesting.

But as I said, no matter.

[SouthernProgressive]

55. You aren't even looking. Really says how bad you truly view it. NT

[Nanjeanne]

58. ???? I did look . I did find it. As I said, it's a DS tweet of a quote/attachment of a policy paper

re healthcare in our country and Biden's plan which leaves many people out of healthcare. We already know the facts about how many people die from lack of healthcare and that is what the quote from the policy paper was referring to. The slant of the OP was not an accurate portrayal of what was being referenced.

I have no problem with someone saying that 153% more people died in the Iraq War than in 9/11. It reflects on my feeling that we should be outraged at both - but to not be outraged at the deaths in the Iraq War with the same sense of horror is odd to me.

If a certain number of people (in this case 10 million) are uninsured and 45,000 people each year die directly related to lack of healthcare - then we should be as outraged at this as we are about 9/11 many times over.

That is what I keep my outrage for.

I'm sure this is falling on deaf ears. As does the fact that a profit based healthcare system is immoral and I cannot accept anyone dying because of lack of healthcare - which falls on way too many deaf ears.

No matter as I said before. You just have a great day!

[George II]

35. Sirota has a habit of posting tweets and then deleting them a few hours later....

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....that's why people take screen shots of them before they're deleted. On the day that BS' campaign announced that they hired him, he deleted more than 20,000 tweets.

The one in question appears to have been deleted. But, he posted these yesterday, too - all variations of the one above. I hope they remain at least long enough for people here to see them:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[George II]

37. Mr. Sirota (BS' speech writer) is doubling down on this, just posted this one an hour or two ago:

Link to tweet

[Cha]

45. Sirota needs to look in the Fucking Mirror.

[highplainsdem]

41. Sirota, Turner and other top people in the Sanders campaign aren't doing these things independently

of him. This has to be what he wants.

I mentioned Turner because she's retweeted this attack on Biden's health care plan.

[Johnny2X2X]

42. He's simply not a Dem

If he were a Dem his campaign would offer constructive criticism of Biden's plan. Instead they pull this stuff out that looks like Donald Trump's campaign wrote it for them. Bernie can push the party left, but this type of garbage makes me sick! It's exactly why Hillary lost my home state of Michigan.

[Cha]

48. Exactly! That's why BS hired them.. they're

doing exactly what he wants.. shame on all of them comparing Biden's Health Plan to build on ACA to 9/11 terrorism.. Of course, Turner Retweeted it.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Farmer-Rick]

51. It's good that candidates are competing with each other over health care plans

I like it when one candidate says my improvements to the corrupt health care system is better than yours. It's how it should be.

As long as we all vote Democratic at the end of the day. A workable federal medical system is way, way overdue. And if the Democratic president we vote in isn't far left enough, we will push her there.

[aikoaiko]

53. compared the number of unnecessary deaths, to be precise.

He didn't call Biden's healthcare plan a terrorist attack.

[SouthernProgressive]

56. He absolutely made the comparison.

The deflection from that fact really shows how bad the campaign tactic was.

Even the way you outline his actions is horrific as a campaign tactic. Truly disgusting even as you state the campaigns actions to be.

[PETRUS]

59. And apparently blunt language is more of an outrage than thousands of people dying. nt

[kcr]

63. Apparently depressing turnout and helping Trump

where millions would die isn't an outrage for some.

[PETRUS]

64. That reads like a non-sequitur to me.

Care to explain?

[dlk]

57. The Question Need to be Asked-Does Bernie & His Campaign Unite or Divide Us?

With So Much at stake in the next election, we need someone who can unite us.

[Gothmog]

66. Divide

[Blue_Tires]

60. I been telling y'all Sirota was a fucking trainwreck

The fact alone that Bernie even though he was a good hire already killed his candidacy for me.

[SouthernProgressive]

61. Here is my point with that.

Sirota has been relentlessly attacking Biden over healthcare. Following those attacks, Sanders then puts up on his website something that is reflective of Sirota's previous and ongoing attacks. Clearly coordinated. If it's from the top down, who is the trainwreck?

Agree with your post completely.

[Gothmog]

65. I dislike Sirota

Link to tweet