Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI'm a little scared & thinking about switching my support to Biden
First off. I do like Biden. I always have. But I like several candidates more because they are more "progressive".
If I could wave a magic wand I would easily pick Warren to be the President. I think she would bring the biggest change in the direction I believe in. She would go after the banks, wall street, corp. American more than any other candidate (besides maybe Bernie).
But I am also worried that she could lose to Trump. I'm so scared of him being reelected. I do think Biden would beat Trump & actually beat him pretty easy.
My first thought was that since Trump's approval is so low, this would be the best time to elect a real, left leaning progressive candidate. This might be our shot. But now that Trumps poll numbers went up some and all his hate speech. I'm really worried of another 4 years of this man.
Its not like I would be unhappy with Biden. He is a good man. He would definitely get our moral compass back. He just does not excite me as much as some of the others. But he does seem like the safe pick.
My question for the DU is - Do I vote with my heart or with my head?
I don't get to vote for a long time being in PA but I have given money to Warren's & Harris campaign. Just wondering if I should just give my support to Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Your heart is a heart, not a brain.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)A LOT can happen before April 28, 2020. Watch the upcoming debates to help you decide.
Welcome to DU
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
secondwind
(16,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)It will be bad for everyone, but those two candidates ( Warren is one of my favorites BTW), will be ax murdered in ads run by super pacs paid for by various organizations including financial institutions. They will scream Socialist as loud and long as they can. Since the majority of Americans choose their elected officials like they buy cereal, those ads matter, truth be damned.
In a perfect world I would vote for Warren in a heartbeat, but when it comes to winning the White House and restoring order I have decided to stay with Biden.
It still comes down to getting out the vote, which I will do my part to make happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)They will scream all sorts of things at each candidate's weaknesses.
Don't fool yourself that Biden is going to be any different.
The ads against him will matter too, truth be damned.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)Warren will be vilified in ads. It will make it so much harder to win although the reward is greater
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
INdemo
(6,994 posts)and she will throw it right back with a little of their smut added.
Elizabeth Warren would pound Donald Trump through the floor an a debate stage
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Heads will provide the most highly qualified, experienced and exceptional candidate in Joe Biden.
Welcome Aboard!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProfessionalLeft
(83 posts)I could think of a lot of adjectives to describe Joe Biden, but "exceptional" would not be one of them.
"Safe" is probably the most suitable. And there's nothing wrong with safe. I will vote for Warren in my primary. But if my fellow Democrats decide that they'd rather go "safe", I'd be disappointed but wouldn't have any real problem with that. I'd vote Biden without reservation because our number one overriding priority must be the removal of Trump SFB from office.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)if it's logical and rational to be afraid, then be afraid. If it isn't, then don't.
I see ZERO evidence that any of our top four candidates CAN'T beat Trump.
Now, I have some concerns about Sanders, but the data thus far says nothing but that he CAN beat Trump, as can Biden, Warren, and Harris.
So until we see more relevant data closer in time to the start of the primaries that suggests otherwise, I say vote for the best candidate. If the data changes, then you can reassess.
So, if you like Warren, support Warren. IF the data shows that "only Biden can win" sometime in the future, feel free to change.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dawg day
(7,947 posts)I need to hear that-- "The Top Four CAN BEAT HIM!"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I also think each of the top four CAN lose to him.
There's no guarantee. There's no Obama of 08 or Clinton of 92 out there right now that is just destined to be President.
But I just look at the available evidence, and the available evidence right now says any of them CAN win, none of them CAN'T win, and thus we are all free to vote our conscience.
I have some concerns about Sanders, but right now, since I don't have data to turn those concerns into fears yet, that's all they are right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)because I think she would wipe the floor with Chump's fake hair. OTOH, I would be just fine with Biden as our candidate. Although I love Warren, I do believe she has some vulnerabilities, which the GOP would exploit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)in a debate - Harris would destroy Trump better than any other candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Andy823
(11,495 posts)I think Harris is the one who can make trump a one term president. She doesn't take any crap, as we saw with Barr, and she won't fold to anything trump might say, if they have a debate, and trump may be too afraid of her to have one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Big Blue Marble
(4,978 posts)In my perfect world, Warren would be my candidate. She is brilliant and compassionate.
I, too, do not think she can beat Trump. We need a candidate who will not just beat
Trump, but will overwhelm him make it less likely the election can be thrown to him
by the Russians. The only candidate who at this time appears has a chance to do that is
Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,731 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,510 posts)I feel as you do, but if we lose, none of the rest can happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)You might even save your energy and contributions for after the convention. Your support will be so much more important than to whoever the candidate is, because PA is pivotal. Biden doesn't actually NEED your support at this point, so I think you can be at peace with "not fully decided yet"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ConnorMarc
(653 posts)Would be voting for Warren.
She's the best candidate all around, bar none.
Not as left as some of the others, not to the right of the rest.
Let's not forget that she's a PROVEN fighter, for all Americans.
Out of all the candidates, Biden is the least likely to beat Trump.
That's why you see literally ALL Republicans feigning support for him.
He doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
#SorryNotSorry
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Of COURSE he CAN win.
Doesn't mean he is destined to, he can also lose, just like the rest of our candidates.
He's fourth on my list after the two highly qualified women, and then probably Booker, but it's just as silly to say he can't win, as those folks who proclaim only he can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)investment in canceling 95% student debt, free college, 50 billion to Black colleges, 200 billion to
opioid epidemic, universal childcare, affordable housing, healthcare for all undocumented people,
military housing...
It is not a question merely of whether or not these programs should have priority over investment
in existing ones or how much money to spend, but that the impression non-progressives will form is that Warren is a tax and spend candidate.
I wish she would moderate her positions. We can go a long way to lightening the student debt
burden without total amnesty. Meanwhile, foreclosures across the nation show evidence that families, and seniors too, are plowed under in mortgage and property tax debt.
Opioid addiction treatment is covered under both Medicaid and Medicare. So expand on that, but
200 billion?
Honestly, every candidate will have some uphill slog over a vote, a bad story, being too old or too young, but Warren s will be thispromising a policy in every pot and managing to convince
Americans that these policies should have priority, that these are the only way to go, that all this
would not raise taxes substantially.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Her support for MFA is like hanging a mill stone around her neck. The socialist moniker will stick to her, it wont stick to Joe
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,455 posts)That is now voters view her, not as a socialist as some on here are trying to portray her. Biden will be villified in other ways and if he doesn't have better responses than what he did in the debate, he could lose to rump too. There is no guaranteed winner and Biden has shown before he can stumble.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)2020 is too serious to throw your vote away voting with your heart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)I can only tell you where I'm coming from--straight from the head with the lead question: who can beat the daylights out of Donald Trump and clearly repudiate Trumpism. At the moment, my heads answers: Joe Biden.
I, too, like Elizabeth Warren. Always have but I'm simply not convinced she could beat Trump. And that's the main mission. Because anything less than a clear, undisputed win (as in blowout) means ruin. For everyone and for the future.
I believe Joe Biden can take it to Trump, right the Ship of State and repair the damage this crew has exacted.
For me, the head rules though my heart tells me Biden is a good, decent man with scads of experience and knowledge to do what needs to be done. He can put us back on track so we can go forward rather than spill over the cliff.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,929 posts)heart.
Biden is who I want to be President.
I have no idea who would be my 2nd choice.. only who I definitely don't want.
I know things can change drastically.. have to cross that bridge when/if it happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Getting rid of Trump is: EVERYTHING
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)In 2008 Bush's approval was so low the question wasn't IF we could win, but by how much we could win by.
Trump is hovering in the mid 40s. He could squeeze out another win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)at this point in 2007, the MAIN argument for Clinton's lead at the time was that she could win, and Obama could not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)I said in "2008," not this time in 2007. And I never at all referenced the elect-ability argument from Clinton supporters.
But if you want to go with 2007, every leading Democratic candidate held significant leads over Thompson, Guilliani, and Romney &smaller edges over McCain.
Clinton
Obama
Edwards.
Each of those were practically sure things in 2008 (barring a scandal)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)only Joe can win vein...is that not what you intended? If not, then my apologies, if so then my point stands.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)At this point RIGHT NOW, Biden is the more likely winner in an election that doesn't look nearly as easy as 2008 did.
In 2007 - 2008, Clinton, Obama, and Edwards were leading - often by significant amounts - in hypothetical match ups with leading Republicans while Bush's numbers were in the low to mid 30s. Fact.
Trump's numbers are in the mid to high 40s now and only Biden consistently polls outside the margin of era in hypothetical match-ups with Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and at this point right now, folks thought Obama couldn't win and that Clinton was the more likely winner. Fact.
That was too early in time to try and make that argument and it was plainly wrong. Fact.
We are at that same point and time now. Fact.
You are comparing two different points in time to try to make a flawed argument. Fact.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)But in late 2007, every major Dem was beating every major Republican - often by substantial numbers.
Perhaps you want to narrow your argument down to one month or quarter and then only include Clinton supporters in your post? STILL wouldn't be 2008.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)we are in the middle of the equivalent, first of all.
Second, no, they weren't:
The first time either Clinton or Obama had more than a five percentage point lead on McCain wasn't until this poll:
Associated Press/Ipsos February 2224, 2008 Hillary Clinton 48% John McCain 43%
Barack Obama 51% John McCain 41%
Even that was a bit of an outlier because the next few polls had both of them within the margin of error.
In fact, Reuters/Zogby had it dead even between McCain and Obama and McCain leading Clinton by one in their April 10-12 08 polling.
Even after Obama won the nomination, as late as the first two weeks of September, McCain was leading in at least half the polling done, and more or less tied in the other half. (This was the Palin bounce soon to be followed by the Palin crash and the financial collapse).
There was no certainty until the end of September after the financial collapse where Obama significantly led by "substantial numbers."
At this point in 2007, the folks being polled on the R side against Obama and Clinton were folks like Guiliani, Fred Thompson, and Mitt Romney. McCain wasn't even being polled against those two that often. One October 07 poll had Obama and Guiliani tied.
So, your revisionist history is revisionist...and your argument isn't based on actual facts or evidence.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)If you wanted to discuss 2007, why respond?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
your post about 2008 was wrong too, as I just showed.
Your theory about "only Joe can win" is likewise not based on any actual evidence.
I assume if you had facts to refute, you'd have done so by now, since you haven't, I will look for something more productive to do and let you have the last word.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
My post about 2008 was right, too. I assume if you had facts to refute, you'd have done so by now, since you haven't, I will look for something more productive to do.
Just a couple of easily found polls showing the 2007-08 field running the tables on the GOP field. Just as I said:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_giuliani_vs_edwards-229.html
https://news.gallup.com/poll/103495/election-summary.aspx
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)OMG...did you just link to a Guiliani-Edwards poll from Jan 08?? LMAO The THIRD place candidate against a guy who by Jan 08 was not remotely the front-runner anymore? I don't think I've seen someone try something so self-evidently just plain wrong to make a point in my life.
And from your second link:
"On the Democratic side, the year began and ended with the same front-runner. In contrast, the national ordering of candidate support on the Republican side was significantly different -- and more muddled -- in December than it had been in January."
Spoiler alert, the year ended with the person as front-runner who, how shall I put this...didn't win.
"Obama's ratings have been the most positive of these three Democratic contenders in each national Gallup Poll conducted in 2007. Still, his ratings ended the year slightly more negative than in the early months of the year.
Hillary Clinton's +18 favorable rating had fallen to +3 by the end of the year, having been in net negative territory at several points before that. John Edwards' net favorable rating stayed essentially constant as the year progressed."
Still seeing nothing that says "Dems got this" as you claim. NOTHING in that second article says ANYTHING about running the tables. My God you should maybe just sit the next few plays out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,865 posts)You seem obsessed with making it so.
It's also a safe bet you'll comment again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...policy-wise. The general is when you vote for whoever wins.
Don't base your primary support in fear. Base it in what you believe the best course of action is for the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)"The primaries are when you choose who you think best represents the direction the party should go."
"Base it in what you believe the best course of action is for the country."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)The addition of words, which I assumed, didn't change that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ConnorMarc
(653 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)And some of your concerns might wash out over time. We are at a point of serious uncertainty.
I wouldn't worry about giving Biden money right now. I would keep giving to Warren. See where the chips fall and how things are looking by the time they come around to you. Fact is, it might not look anything like today.
I find myself holding similar thoughts to you. Right now, Warren is getting my money. I have given to other candidates including Biden. But in the near future it will just be Warren. I also support Biden by staying positive about him. It's not hard for me as I really like him.
Long way to go.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(130,156 posts)I'm waiting for the MD Primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,488 posts)For he is NOT Afraid of Trump. He knows how to get under Trump's thin skin when it comes to knowing more about the world and government.
Just like he tore apart Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin with his smile and "Mularkey" comments, he will do the same to Trump on the debate stage in ways Hillary Clinton was unable to. Joe is the bigger man in ways Trump will never measure up to.
Mano y mano with Trump will be a barnburner for sure . For if Trump thinks he can insult his way to re-election, he has another thing coming.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)and will be accused of taking people's insurance away. Biden has a plan that could work...consider jobs lost at banks and in the insurance industry should Warren win somehow...we would be tossed out so fast our heads would spin...but in my view she can't win MI, PA and WI...and she could hurt our senate efforts and cause us to lose the house...with the health care issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)I see this claim made over and over again here as if it is so obviously true that no one need explain it. I don't see it myself. Could you explain why you think it is true?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)I think he easy wins PA, Mich, Wisc where I think Warren & Harris could struggle in those states. Biden does connect with the white middle-class voter and he also connects well with the Black & Black female vote.
I think Biden is the easiest travel road. Not the road I want. Again, I say that with great admiration for Biden. I do like Biden.
But when I hear Warren speak I completely agree with her and I feel her passion.
I think we have some really good candidates. I really like Harris also & would love to see her on stage debating Trump more than anyone else.
Buttigieg I think is really good also. His calm personality comes across very likable.
This is very difficult which I guess is a good thing
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demit
(11,238 posts)That seems to be your primary reason. Would that be fair to say? Your secondary reason is that he connects at least as well as Warren and Harris with the black vote, male and female. And those things together is why you think he would easily win PA, MI and WI?
As for the pollsthe ones showing how much Biden would beat Trump byI don't think they have data that separates out how voters in PA, MI and WI responded (do they?) so I'm at a loss to understand what the basis is for people being so certain that Biden would take those states. Even with the polls fluctuating, as polls do, it doesn't seem to shake people's dead certainty. It's repeated so often it's become a mantra.
Anyway. Thanks for your sincere response, and I'm in PA too, so I can commiserate with how our choices are slimmed down by the time our primary rolls around. But there's lots to happen between now and then. A lot can change. I see no reason to feel bound to a candidate at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)We are basically trying to pick up a net 80,000 votes, or around 1% of the electorate in 3 states. People are claiming to know that the crucial 1% will, for example, vote for an experienced moderate male Pennsylvanian but won't vote for a progressive woman. There is no way any poll could show this because the numbers are so small. But there are polls that show many people believe that other voters will vote this way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)What a way to choose a president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
applegrove
(118,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,271 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,271 posts)And, of course, we have the "black" candidate, the "gay" candidate, the "millennial" one, the "socialist" the "woman" etc.
Certainly the ones who believe that we can all get free health care, free college degree, $1000 a month for each man, woman and child, with no convincing explanation on how we achieve this, and, therefore, support the candidates offering this do not think with their heads..
But then, we can always join the candidate who runs on "all we need is love"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...I especially like the fact that he polls highest when it comes to beating Trump.
Yes, I understand that we're months away from having a final candidate. And as I have said many, many times, I will support and vote for that candidate, whoever that may be.
But today, I care about one thing, and everything else is secondary to me.
I want a candidate who can beat Trump. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,878 posts)is an exercise in futility. This is the democratic primary. Vote who you really want to be President. Whoever that is, its the right choice for you. We will rally around the winner. But second guessing or listening to pundits who have been wrong about everything is just not the way to make your vote count. The one who will win will be the person who gets the most votes.
Head or heart? How do you know your head is right? Your heart could very well match up very well in the General with lots of other hearts. Voting is such a privilege. So participate with your vote. You only get one. Use it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)He can win back the Obama states. I don't think any of the others are as strong.
However, if it's Harris-Beto, that would be a real strong ticket. Harris doesn't give us an electoral college boost ( from California)
but Beto might put Texas, Arizona and even Florida in play.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,307 posts)Id = Warren
Ego = Biden
Super Ego = Democrat
I feel the same way. I really like Warren. (She could be 1,2,or 3 for me on any given day) She has one of the best campaign lines ever with her "I've got a plan for that" but for me it comes down to not being able to afford losing her Senate seat. We'll be fine with any of the Dem candidates as President, but we cannot afford to lose her Senate seat. I mean come on Massachusetts's, a (R) Governor..?? Really!! I thought you were better than that!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raven123
(4,716 posts)Personally, I ignore the electability nonsense. It is not that I dont think the issue is important, rather that I have no faith in rapid cycling polls, and certainly no faith in the media that thrives on milking every ounce of angst from them.
I want each candidate to be true to themselves and the voters. Let the chips fall. My preference on DU is clear. Until I vote, I reserve the right to change my mind, and so I will be attentive, but will not obsess over the issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,163 posts)People choose a candidate for different reasons. For the primary, vote who you think would best represent you and your interests. This lets the party know the temperature of the electorate and the issues most important in a particular state. This helps the nominee hone their pitch.
If that's Biden? Great. If it's someone else, that's fine, too.
The polls are going to go up and down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MarcA
(2,195 posts)really using your "head".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)well done!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Indygram
(2,113 posts)He is the absolutely PERFECT choice for a unity and coalition nominee. Many are not comfortable with the candidates the furthest to the left. Many are not comfortable with Biden. Beto is a essentially a progressive moderate. He has many of the same goals as progressives but he approaches those goals in a moderate way that doesn't scare the living daylights out of people.
I don't see anyone else who can truly bring in millions of new voters and unify the party without simultaneously inspiring new voters on Trump's side to show up and vote for hate.
When I see people excited at the thought of him being forced out of the race I see people hell bent on prying defeat out of the jaws of victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Pelosi was unable to come up with any such summary of any accomplishments when asked.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)One example of him fighting for Veterans
More videos can be seen here (CSPAN has some too): https://betoorourke.com/veterans/
Introduced Bills that were enacted:
H.R. 2288: Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act of 2017
Enacted Signed by the President on Aug 23, 2017.
H.R. 5873 (114th): To designate the Federal building and United States courthouse located at 511 East San Antonio Avenue in El Paso, Texas, as the R.E. Thomason Federal Building and United States Courthouse
H.R. 1265 (113th): To require the continuation of tuition assistance programs for members of the Armed Forces for the remainder of fiscal year 2013.
ORourke sponsored bills primarily in these issue areas:
Armed Forces and National Security (51%) Immigration (16%) Government Operations and Politics (13%) Transportation and Public Works (7%)
Bills Sponsored: (There were a lot more than this)
H.R. 5619: Emergency Port of Entry Personnel and Infrastructure Funding Act of 2018
H.R. 4130: Mandatory Arbitration Transparency Act of 2017
H.R. 3943: Protecting the Property Rights of Border Landowners Act
H.R. 3695: Protect DREAMer Confidentiality Act of 2017
H.R. 3020: Border Enforcement Accountability, Oversight, and Community Engagement Act of 2017
H.Res. 366 (115th): Recognizing and commemorating St. Josephs School and their service to the El Paso community.
H.R. 2596: Castner Range National Monument Act
H.R. 2312: Enhanced Veteran Healthcare Act of 2017
H.R. 2311: Express Appeals Act
H.R. 2288: Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act of 2017
H.R. 1952: Better Drive Act
H.R. 1839 (115th): Retired Civil Servant Military Service Restoration Act
H.R. 1790: Veterans Health Care Trust Fund Act
H.R. 1743: No PAC Act
H.R. 1685: Honor Our Commitment Act of 2017
H.R. 1548: Real Time Transparency Act of 2017
H.R. 1509: Better Informing Veterans Healthcare Decisions Act
H.R. 1505: VA Provider Pay Modernization Act of 2017
H.R. 1507: Ask Veterans Act
H.R. 1506: VA Health Care Provider Education Debt Relief Act of 2017
H.R. 1508: Get Veterans a Doctor Now Act
H.R. 1371: Vet Connect Act of 2017
H.R. 1064: Mental Health Care Provider Retention Act of 2017
H.R. 1063: Veteran Prescription Continuity Act
H.R. 1036: American Families United Act
H.R. 973: 21st Century SCASDP Act
H.R. 532: DREAMer Information Protection Act
H.J.Res. 13: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to limit the number of terms a Representative or Senator may serve.
H.R. 6517 (114th): INFORM Act
H.R. 6516 (114th): To amend the Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014 to expand eligibility for the Veterans Choice Program of the Department of Veterans Affairs, to establish a minimum period of care or services under such program, and
H.R. 6445 (114th): Veterans Health Care Trust Fund Act
H.R. 6317 (114th): Veteran Mental Health Care Expansion Act of 2016
H.R. 6272 (114th): VA Provider Pay Modernization Act of 2016
H.R. 6273 (114th): VA Health Care Provider Education Debt Relief Act of 2016
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/beto_orourke/412575
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)You started with fear and intuitively jumped to Joe Biden as the "safe" bet. But if you are like most people, your intuitions about safety are more based more in emotion than rational analysis. An experienced moderate geographically desirable white male will always seem like a likely winner because that's our stereotype of a winning candidate. But such people often lose to people with less experience who aren't from swing states aren't the most moderate or aren't white.
Instead of starting with fear, start with your objective - winning. Then look at what factors make a winning candidate and look for historical, psychological or logical factors that support each factor. Once you have a set of reasonable factors, chose the candidate that best matches those factors. For me, at the moment, that adds up to Warren.
Interesting you talk about "magic wands." They actually polled this. First they asked people to pick a candidate preference. People chose Biden. Then they asked who they would pick if they could wave a magic wand and declare a President. People chose Warren. The results show that people are psyching themselves out through "electability." They are guessing (wrongly) that everyone else wants Biden, when in fact, more people want Warren. Warrens biggest problem is that she doesn't "look like" a winner, even if she is one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)I didnt know they did a magic wand poll. Pretty cool.
I did see on one of the latest polls they asked if you cant have your first choice who would you choose and Warren was winning that by a lot. That probably falls a lot into people taking Biden because they feel he has the best chance to win and then go with who they actually want with the 2nd choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)because the only other pace reality allows is bouncing off the ceiling and falling on our heads. Wash, rinse, repeat for months!
Imo that latter should be avoided. We need everyone whole and able to actually, you know, vote. Especially on November 3, 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)I try to make the most pragmatic choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ponietz
(2,905 posts)Carpe Diem!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,304 posts)We all know that we have to win this, whatever it takes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,572 posts)...even if its a loaf of bread
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But our more primitive selves.
Weigh what your reasoning tells you.
But Bidens last couple of day have made him even more attractive. Good foreign policy speech, excellent healthcare policy and now a plan for rural America.
I hope you come around to Biden. But not through fear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(46,928 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I wouldn't worry too much about real-life repercussions until the voting starts so until then just try not to get carried away or you'll get a post hidden. Welcome!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)But, that doesn't mean you have to change who you're voting for right this moment.
We have a long way to go to until we vote. Warren is a respectable candidate. I do think Joe is more electable (thus my support for him) but Warren isn't someone to laugh at either.
I understand your trepidation. Trust me, I do.
My advice is to take some time, maybe even write up a pro's and con's, reflect on it and then decide when you're ready to decide. If your head says Warren go with Warren. If your head says Biden go with Biden.
Whatever you decide, trust yourself and know you made the best choice to the best of your abilities.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ooky
(8,889 posts)We just gotta.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,848 posts)If polls show that a very progressive candidate (my preference) would beat Trump in a general election, I'll vote for him/her.
If the only way to victory is a more centrist candidate, that's how I'll vote.
I'm not wasting my time listening to people who offer "explanations" for why some candidates will do better against Trump than others, either. I want to see the polls, from organizations with a decent track record in that regard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden