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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:46 PM Feb 2019

Some changes in the primaries

The little-noticed change that could boost Biden and hurt Bernie in 2020

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/03/2020-elections-caucuses-democrats-primaries-bernie-sanders-1078031

"In 2020, four of the caucus states that Sanders won — Nebraska, Idaho, Minnesota, and Colorado — will use primaries to determine how many pledged delegates were allocated to each Democratic candidates.

More could soon follow. Utah has a new law on the books permitting political parties to use presidential primaries, and an official in the state Democratic Party said it expects to opt in. Maine passed a bill in 2016 to establish a presidential primary, but a top state Democrat said it sunsetted and was not immediately funded."


I live in Washington state and there is talk here about doing away with caucuses and going to primary only. In the past we have had both, but only the caucuses counted. We still had a primary and thousands more voted in them than the caucuses, but our votes in the primary did not count. I think it will change for 2020.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Some changes in the primaries (Original Post) Andy823 Feb 2019 OP
Caucuses should be done away with... VarryOn Feb 2019 #1
I agree Andy823 Feb 2019 #3
Secret ballots are sacrosanct. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #5
I agree Andy823 Feb 2019 #9
Good. honest.abe Feb 2019 #2
Caucuses are undemocratic. They invite bullying and intimidation. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #4
I agree 100% nt Andy823 Feb 2019 #6
Political calculations aside, this is the right thing to do. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #7
Good. Amimnoch Feb 2019 #8
Hopefully all the states follow suit including Iowa Trenzalore Feb 2019 #10
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
1. Caucuses should be done away with...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:58 PM
Feb 2019

There's a higher chance of outlier results. They require completely different approaches by campaigns versus primaries. The time commitment factor disenfrachises a lot of voters.

I'm sure there are many more cons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
3. I agree
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

Primaries allow more people to voice their opinion, and it gives a better idea of the actual support of the different candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Secret ballots are sacrosanct.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:25 PM
Feb 2019

Caucuses invite bullying and exclude anyone who works during caucusing hours, or who is a caregiver and can't afford to be away from home/job for the amount of time it typically takes for a caucus to complete.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
9. I agree
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:45 AM
Feb 2019

There was a lot of bullying going on in 2016, and we don't need that again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,614 posts)
2. Good.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:05 PM
Feb 2019

Caucuses are undemocratic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Caucuses are undemocratic. They invite bullying and intimidation.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:22 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
7. Political calculations aside, this is the right thing to do. n/t
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:18 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
8. Good.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

ADBB - Any Democrat but Bernie or Bust.

Never again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
10. Hopefully all the states follow suit including Iowa
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:55 AM
Feb 2019

Doubt Iowa will ever switch because it would trigger a war with NH to be the first primary but we can have dreams.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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