Biden said something that Harris and lots of other people said was hurtful. Biden apologized

[EffieBlack]

“for the pain or misconception that I caused.”

So why are people still attacking Harris and others for saying she found his words hurtful after he admitted himself that they were?

It’s really time to let it go, people.

[Voltaire2]

1. oddly enough it is mostly Biden supporters who keep kicking this shit back up.

they just cannot let it go.

[oasis]

3. "Mostly Biden supporters"? Izzat so?

I haven't been keeping count. Next chance I get, I'll run out and buy myself a clicker.

[Cha]

5. ..

[Cha]

4. ..

[TwilightZone]

6. Oddly enough, that's the opposite of what I've seen.

I'm not a Biden supporter (for now, anyway), but from what I've seen, the same few non-Biden supporters seem to be the ones beating the dead horse.

[Cha]

8. Ikr.. Thank You, TwilightZone!

[emmaverybo]

26. You see clearly. Thanks. Means something coming from a non-supporter too. NT

[Kind of Blue]

7. +1000. Sadly so and thereby constantly bringing up his duplicitous behavior.

[SunsetDreams2]

9. Exactly.. but it's just a handful of names

that appear to want to keep stirring the pot.

[Cha]

14. Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology: 'We cannot rewrite history'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=194068

[MarcA]

20. Agreed. Just watch the denials and unintelligent responses. n/t

[Cha]

21. Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology: 'We cannot rewrite history'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=194068

[True Blue American]

51. For me it is an

Apology for something Biden never said in the first place. I know who needs to apologize and it is not Biden.

I may be walking a thin line with this post but this is how I feel.

[Perseus]

2. Because many of us have become fanatics

When you are a fanatic you defend that who you area fanatic of and do your best to find excuses for that person, to attack the messenger. That is why.

[EffieBlack]

12. That's probably part of

But I suspect there’s more to it than that.

[Cha]

22. Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology: 'We cannot rewrite history'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=194068

Just who isn't "Letting this GO"?

So just who are you accusing of being "fanatics"?

[SunsetDreams2]

31. Well..considering the same story

Has been posted 6 times in this very thread, it’s hard to tell.

[Cha]

34. It's obvious I posted this to those

posters who I thought needed to see it and might not otherwise.

I knew there would be those not able to see that and be complaining about it.

[SunsetDreams2]

37. I'm sorry Cha

It just seems so redundant in one thread. I remember when we both were supporters of Candidate Obama and fought against those taking words out of context. She clearly accepted his apology, but the issue remains important to her, and no you can’t rewrite history on the issue of not supporting federal busing. Do I think that makes him unelectable? Absolutely not.

I’m puzzled as to why he would be for states rights on a civil rights issue. The reason why it had to be done is states were not implementing it, and still treating African Americans as less than and somehow not worthy because of the color of their skin. Issues like this one SHOULD NEVER be a states rights issue. To side with segregationists at a time when there was so much open racism is deeply disturbing for a Democrat. My husband, like Kamala benefited greatly from schools being desegregated. He has several life long friends since they were 8 years old because of it also, both black and white.

Schools where black kids went to school were underfunded and many were run down. There was no money coming into them. Biden said he supported better funded schools back then etc, did he propose a bill to do that? I have not found one.

At any rate, both of them will be fine. I’m not worried about any of our Democratic Candidates. I think they could all take on Trump and that’s what we all should be doing. We need to focus on getting him the hell out of the White House.



(Just in case anyone is wondering, I’m not a sock. I am the original SunsetDreams but was unable to get into my account after taking a break due to personal issues. I have discussed this with A MIRT team member and sent an email to EarlG)

[Cha]

38. I knew who you were, SunsetDreams..

I remember us being strong supporters of President Obama. I didn't even look at your post count.

Well, Glad you back!

I can see how it would be redundant to those for whom it wasn't meant.. just the ones who were gratuitously insulting Biden Supporters.

[SunsetDreams2]

43. Yes we were :)

You Better Believe It there was so much of that going on against Obama on DU.

I seriously don’t think the ones you posted that link to meant ALL Biden supporters. There is only a handful that I’ve seen over and over. It’s a troubling trend when we should be aiming all of our ire at Trump. For anyone to think that our candidates will not have differences of issues and call each other out on them is something I don’t understand. There will be more of it in debates, that’s what they are there for and it’s only going to make our candidates stronger whomever ends up being the nominee to go against that idiot in the White House.

[Cha]

44. I don't think any Biden supporters

should be insulted so.

Not the infamous "handful" that are referred to or any. I like them all.

I don't insult any other supporters..

[SunsetDreams2]

47. That's very fair Cha

I agree with you. Although, some of this mess seems a bit contrived when it’s the same ones doing it. Maybe that’s not fair, it’s just an observation. My sole purpose is defeating Donald Trump and I would like to think that desire is held by all of us here at DU. I know Biden would make a great President, he has the experience in spades. That’s a given. I just personally at this time feel we need some new blood in there. As much as President Obama is hated on the right, I worry that having Biden as the nominee will galvanize the right and the general election will become a referendum on their Administration. Should he become the nominee, I will back him 110% and fight tooth and nail to get him elected, as I would for any of our Democratic Candidates whether I supported them in the primary or not. This country absolutely cannot take another 4 years of Trump. You think he is bad now, winning will only embolden him more.

[StarfishSaver]

35. Lol.

[quickesst]

10. Harris and her supporters....

.... will never let this go until the last drop of juice is squeezed from the lemon.

She accepted his apology, but didn't accept his apology.

Hartsville, South Carolina(CNN) Sen. Kamala Harris said Sunday that she applauds former Vice President Joe Biden's apology on his comments about his ability to be civil and work with segregationist senators in the 1970s, but stopped short of absolving him of all of his past remarks on issues of race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/07/politics/kamala-harris-joe-biden-segregationist-senators-apology-busing/index.html

[Cha]

11. Yeah, So just who is "not letting it GO"?

Thanks, quickest

[quickesst]

16. I think Joe's trying to move on....

.... I think I'm trying to move on, oh, and I think you're trying to move on. I even believe Cory Booker is trying to move on. Someone is becoming a one issue candidate, and I don't think it will work out well for them. That's just a guess.


Here is to moving on Cha!

[Cha]

18. Yes, Joe Biden is most Definitely trying

to Move On.. and so are his Supporters.

Mahalo, quickest!

[quickesst]

25. Mahalo Cha

[still_one]

13. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ and a DU OP pointing out what you just said

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287194068

[quickesst]

17. I didn't see that

[emmaverybo]

30. Well, she's definitely lumping him in with segregationists in her so-called acceptance and signals

she’s not done with him.

[Skya Rhen]

15. Kamala: Well, he said he's sorry. I'm gonna take him at his word, but...

This is not how one accepts an apology.


Audio:

https://search.audioburst.com/burst/3MRaZD8p0ZzG

[quickesst]

19. I have always heard....

.... that the best way to accept an apology would be...... gracefully.

[StarfishSaver]

23. You mean like "He is right to recognize the impact of his words, and I applaud him for doing that"?

Sounds to me like she accepted his apology and did it gracefully.

[quickesst]

29. There will never be...

.... a graceful acception of his apology as long as her half-hearted acceptance ends with what amounts to "but". Here is what I want to know. But what Kamala?

[StarfishSaver]

24. And since that's not what she said ...

[Skya Rhen]

33. The audio link is there for anyone who wants to hear it, to hear. She said it. Open the link:

Audio:

https://search.audioburst.com/burst/3MRaZD8p0ZzG

[emmaverybo]

27. The "history" remark is loaded. She is well aware of how to play a jury. NT

[quickesst]

32. I think she is also....

.... well aware of how to play guilt.

[mcar]

40. I'm not seeing Harris's supporters continuing to push this

I'm seeing the media pushing the usual "Dems in disarray" meme, regardless of reality, and a handful of disruptors acting like one issue in the first debate is the end of the freaking world.

Let's not eat our own, people. Joe would be a great president. Kamala would be a great president. Let's disagree on favorites but agree that the corrupt sociopath in the WH is the enemy.

[Skya Rhen]

42. But the chatter is continuing on Twitter and in the comments sections of other left-leaning sites

like the New York Times, Washington Post and HuffPost.

Believe me, it is much bigger than us DUers...

[quickesst]

48. We are disagreeing on favorites....

...... but there has to be reasons for doing so. This is just one of them. I believe Harris supporters are defending her, and I believe Biden supporters are defending him, but if one is honest with oneself, there is only one person who can't seem to move on after Biden's apology. Her own words prove this is true. I think you and I both know that as long as she believes there's something to gain from extending this issue, she will continue to do so as long as the media keeps ramping it up.This may not be the answer you were seeking or expecting but it's the only honest one that I have.

I do agree with you on one thing. The enemy is currently occupying the White House, and he needs to be removed by any legal means necessary.

[EffieBlack]

52. Harris has moved on. She hasn't mentioned it in days. Biden supporters won't stop talking about it.

Maybe they should follow Harris’ lead and move on.

[quickesst]

54. Here is my answer....

.... and once again I will try to "be specific".
Harris will beat this dead horse as long as she can see blood running out of its nostrils. Her half-hearted attempt at accepting Joe Biden's apology proves she is not done with this issue.

As time passes, more and more people are beginning to see things with a little more clarity. They are beginning to see that Kamala Harris launched her months in the making plan to attack Joe Biden during the debate. As I have mentioned to you before, Harris's mischaracterization of Biden's interactions with a segregationist laid the groundwork for this attack. Without any proof whatsoever, no video, no witness, no audio, no written proof, Harris accused Joe Biden of praising and coddling a segregationist. As has been proven, his work with Eastland was to pass legislation that was beneficial to the entire country, and had absolutely nothing to do with race. If you will recall, both Jim Clyburn and John Lewis have by their own admission, done the same thing as Joe Biden did. I believe this is where you decided to go silent during our previous encounter. Let me know if everything I have stated in this post is untrue, and why it is untrue. " Please be specific".

Biden supporters letting it go? Kamala Harris wishes.

[samnsara]

28. im just speculating here but I think a lot of ppl thought this was a personal..

...issue that could have been brought up and resolved privately. As much as the issue was important to a lot of ppl there are a lot of people that were never in the position of having to address it. I grew up in a small northwestern town. Im the same age as Harris but this issue was not part of my life as we all went to school together no matter what color we were. So some are kind of confounded..scratching their heads..wondering why this particular issue has been used to win a debate/contest/election..whatever...when we should all be directing this at trump.

In the end whoever is the Dem nom will get ALL our votes. 100%!

[Gothmog]

36. It is time to let this issue go

[mcar]

39. It is well past time to let it go

The hyperbole I've read here from some has been discouraging, to say the least.

[myohmy2]

41. "So why are people still attacking Harris..."

...could it have something to do with getting Joe the nomination and Kamala out of the way?

...

[Skya Rhen]

46. I don't recall anybody on DU ever "attacking" Harris until she made those remarks to Biden...

Could it possibly have something to do with that? I wonder...

[SidDithers]

45. DUers are mocking Harris, because she, and others, found his words hurtful...

Sid

[R B Garr]

49. You should take your own advice. You should also call out

those who are blaming it on Biden supporters. You must have missed the returnees who used Michelle Obama to attack Biden with disgusting twisted lies and spin about her answers to yet more questions about Kamala’s accusations.

You should take your own advice.

[Demsrule86]

50. She had t-shirts...a planned attack...hurtful only because it didnt work as she intended.

Also because i was angry, I looked into her time as AG and DA. I will only say, i was not impressed and this will cause us trouble in a general.

[ucrdem]

53. A little late for that. nt

[Vegas Roller]

55. It's schadenfreude

Sen. Harris thought she was so cute when she threw that pre-planned and well-rehearsed bombshell, completely caricaturing what Biden actually said.

It worked for a while … but now that the truth has come out and polls are getting back to where they were, it is very satisfying.

In my opinion, Biden had nothing to apologize for because pretty much everyone knew what he said was not racist. It was just spun into something Biden didn't say.