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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:02 AM Jul 2019

ABC News/Wash Post once again shows Biden doing best against Trump - leads him by 10 points.

Biden runs away with the general election head-to-head as other Democrats struggle to either break even with Trump or beat him head-to-head.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/aided-by-a-strong-economy-trump-approval-rises-but-a-majority-also-see-him-as-unpresidential/2019/07/04/c9c42c54-9d9f-11e9-b27f-ed2942f73d70_story.html?utm_term=.c386275744ab

Biden leads Trump 53-43
Harris leads Trump 48-46
Sanders leads Trump 49-48
Warren is tied with Trump 48-48
Buttigieg is tied with Trump 47-47

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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ABC News/Wash Post once again shows Biden doing best against Trump - leads him by 10 points. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 OP
It's early very very early wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #1
Still relevant numbers. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #2
i don't think Warren is. it will be interesting to see Warren and Biden on the same debate stage JI7 Jul 2019 #5
No not really qazplm135 Jul 2019 #29
Yes she is. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #31
lol qazplm135 Jul 2019 #32
Nope but facts do... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #33
Democratic voters qazplm135 Jul 2019 #34
Did you read my post? Or are you just set on replying snidely? Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #39
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #42
Ok Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #4
Biden will beat Trump the rest will not...polls clearly show this...so do we want to win or not. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #25
Clearly, the one with a 10 point lead is more electable than the one with a 2 point lead. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #3
One would think! Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #17
KR! And, this is one reason Cha Jul 2019 #6
This is why I had hoped that certain candidates wouldn't continue to try to paint Biden as a racist. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #7
On the next debate stage, one of the candidates should request oasis Jul 2019 #19
Agreed. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #40
Clinton 59%, Trump 34% (CNN poll 4 yrs ago) motorcity Jul 2019 #8
Yes and polls this far out in 2011 had Romney losing to Obama... Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #11
The most important poll, IMHO... chwaliszewski Jul 2019 #9
They are coming and, without a doubt, Biden will lead in every single one of them - no doubt! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #22
Joe Biden Tweeted on May 23, 2019.. Cha Jul 2019 #10
So true... so true.. he know where all the keys that work the locks are Peacetrain Jul 2019 #20
Yes, Peacetrain! Cha Jul 2019 #36
Joe is right. True Blue American Jul 2019 #24
Yes, he is! Cha Jul 2019 #37
People like Joe Biden, faults and all 5starlib Jul 2019 #12
Yeah, what you said, 5starlib. Cha Jul 2019 #13
Honestly True Blue American Jul 2019 #14
Well put, True Blue American! Cha Jul 2019 #16
Don't we all? True Blue American Jul 2019 #15
Joe is the genuine article. oasis Jul 2019 #21
And the troll's approval went up 5 points. What in the world is wrong with people? Nt helpisontheway Jul 2019 #18
This matters. It matters a great deal. MineralMan Jul 2019 #23
K+R emmaverybo Jul 2019 #26
let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #27
Biden is the only one who can beat Trump handily. nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #28
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2019 #30
Battleground state numbers are more relevant than national numbers. totodeinhere Jul 2019 #35
Joe Biden Is The Only Democrat With A Clear Advantage Over Trump In New Poll Gothmog Jul 2019 #38
Joe! Sugarcoated Jul 2019 #41
Biden is out polling the other Democratic candidates Gothmog Jul 2019 #43
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. Still relevant numbers.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:10 AM
Jul 2019

Especially for candidates like Warren and Sanders, who are very well known, and yet are barely ahead against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,282 posts)
5. i don't think Warren is. it will be interesting to see Warren and Biden on the same debate stage
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:16 AM
Jul 2019

Sanders was asked about his education plan and couldn't answer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
29. No not really
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jul 2019

And Warren is not very well known.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
31. Yes she is.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jul 2019

And yes they are relevant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
32. lol
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jul 2019

wishing doesn't make it so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
33. Nope but facts do...
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jul 2019

Warren is the third most known candidate among Democratic voters, only behind Sanders and Biden. It only reasons she's polling higher too among all voters.

Unless you can offer up proof to your initial claim, I'm going to say it's you who's wishing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-least-well-known-democratic-candidates-among-democratic-voters-2019-5

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
34. Democratic voters
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jul 2019

not ALL voters.

Nice try.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
39. Did you read my post? Or are you just set on replying snidely?
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jul 2019

Let me quote it again for you:

Warren is the third most known candidate among Democratic voters, only behind Sanders and Biden. It only reasons she's polling higher too among all voters.


Unless you can point me to a poll where Warren's name recognition is well below where you'd think it would be for her to be in this tight of a race, then I'll just concede you're the one who is wishing it to be true.

The fact is, the gap between Biden and the rest of the Democrats can't be ignored. It shows two things: 1) Biden does universally better than even well-known Democrats like Bernie Sanders and 2) Unlike in 2015, where both Sanders and Hillary polled similarly against Trump, there is a legitimate gap - and has been a gap head-to-head in most polls - between Biden and the rest of the field.

Moreover, you're the one who said Warren was not very well known. Okay. Back that comment up with some facts then.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #39)

 

Demsrule86

(68,753 posts)
25. Biden will beat Trump the rest will not...polls clearly show this...so do we want to win or not.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jul 2019

If Trump is re-elected, and the blue wall is not rebuilt we are looking at possibly a decade as in the 80's without winning a presidential race...we have no path without a moderate candidate and a rebuilt blue wall...It is clearly shown in the electoral college maps.We are in a desperate situation here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
3. Clearly, the one with a 10 point lead is more electable than the one with a 2 point lead.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:11 AM
Jul 2019

The math doesn't lie...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,911 posts)
6. KR! And, this is one reason
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:25 AM
Jul 2019

I like Biden for the job.. that and his qualifications and Experience:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,247 posts)
7. This is why I had hoped that certain candidates wouldn't continue to try to paint Biden as a racist.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:50 AM
Jul 2019

I'm still fairly confident that, despite all the arrows coming at him from the left & the right, Biden will be the nominee. The question people have to ask is just how much they want to damage him for a potential run against tRump. Keep in mind that a damaged nominee most likely won't have significant coattails, and that would be a disaster up & down the ballot. For the sake of the party, I hope certain candidates have gotten it out of their system so we can move forward in a more positive direction.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,438 posts)
19. On the next debate stage, one of the candidates should request
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:27 AM
Jul 2019

a show of hands and pledge to stick to issues important to the American people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

motorcity

(76 posts)
8. Clinton 59%, Trump 34% (CNN poll 4 yrs ago)
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:57 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
11. Yes and polls this far out in 2011 had Romney losing to Obama...
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:41 AM
Jul 2019

...and in 2003, Kerry was losing to Bush. Comparing polling with a candidate Trump to polls where he's the incumbent is just silly. Moreover, by September, 2015, Clinton's lead dropped to where it would remain throughout most 2016. So even then, we're not far off from when the polls started aligning to what they would look like throughout the remainder of the campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
9. The most important poll, IMHO...
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:34 AM
Jul 2019

is head to head against the short-fingered vulgarian in the battleground states. That's where the election will be won or lost. Historically, the blue states and red states will maintain their colors. Show me the polling data for MI, PA, FL, VA, OH, etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
22. They are coming and, without a doubt, Biden will lead in every single one of them - no doubt!
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:36 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,911 posts)
10. Joe Biden Tweeted on May 23, 2019..
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:35 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
20. So true... so true.. he know where all the keys that work the locks are
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:31 AM
Jul 2019

He knows how to get it done.. as much as anyone can get it done.. its a mess out there

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,911 posts)
36. Yes, Peacetrain!
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

5starlib

(191 posts)
12. People like Joe Biden, faults and all
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 04:24 AM
Jul 2019

This can't be underestimated. At the end of the day, people vote for people they like. Joe is who he is. He's a guy that loves people, loves to talk, but may talk a bit too much sometimes, but he means well and he's trustworthy and honest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,911 posts)
13. Yeah, what you said, 5starlib.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 04:50 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
14. Honestly
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 06:08 AM
Jul 2019

The media attacks, plus those Who are race baiting make me more decided on those I prefer.

I have yet to hear Elizabeth Warren attack. Her message is straight forward on what she wants to accomplish. That is what I want to hear.

I do not care what happened 40,50 years ago and I think the average voter feels the same.

DU members are a tiny group and we are all opinionated, or we would not be here!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,911 posts)
16. Well put, True Blue American!
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 07:05 AM
Jul 2019

The more the m$$$$media attacks and others.. the more I'm abidin' with Biden!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
15. Don't we all?
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 06:09 AM
Jul 2019

Read a few threads on the board.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,438 posts)
21. Joe is the genuine article.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:33 AM
Jul 2019

All the way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
18. And the troll's approval went up 5 points. What in the world is wrong with people? Nt
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 07:58 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,343 posts)
23. This matters. It matters a great deal.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:19 AM
Jul 2019

Of course, it's early days, so we'll have to keep watching these head-to-head polls carefully.

It's just one factor that needs to be considered.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
28. Biden is the only one who can beat Trump handily. nt
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
35. Battleground state numbers are more relevant than national numbers.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jul 2019

We don't want to see the Dem nominee winning the popular vote by a large margin yet losing by a narrow margin in the Electoral College again. Its very early but I will be watching polls from such states as North Carolina, Michigan and Florida in order to get a better handle on where we stand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,776 posts)
38. Joe Biden Is The Only Democrat With A Clear Advantage Over Trump In New Poll
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sugarcoated

(7,736 posts)
41. Joe!
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jul 2019

I want the guy who will win back the blue wall 🌊🌊🌊

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,776 posts)
43. Biden is out polling the other Democratic candidates
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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