***unOFFICIAL DU DEBATE #1THREAD**

[underpants]

We don't need one line posts. Please.

[sandensea]

1. Looks great - but no Biden and no Bernie.

And no Mike Gravel.

That just ain't right!

[Hekate]

21. Two nights, with stars for each night. Very unlike the GOP's "kids table" in 2016. It's fair. nt

[pnwmom]

115. Not really fair. Warren is the only top candidate tonight. nt

[Hekate]

125. Nobody else appeals? She's really rocking it tonight!

[pnwmom]

153. I was just referring to poll numbers. In terms of poll numbers they didn't do a good job

of dividing the top performing candidates.

But, yes, I agree she's doing very well.

[sandensea]

137. I see. Thanks!

I'm enjoying this one - and I can't wait till tomorrow night's.

[sandensea]

150. Here's a link to the live stream for anyone without cable access.

[Clash City Rocker]

2. Has anyone ranked the candidates by height?

I know, it’s stupid, but in elections, it actually makes a difference. I’m just mentioning it because Beto, in particular, looks very tall.

[Indygram]

3. Beto is 6'4"

Not sure about the others.

[musicblind]

14. Holy crap he is tall. I always assumed, from pictures

that he was more of a slight person. Amazing how deceptive some photographs can be.

[Indygram]

35. Yep...would be tied with Abraham Lincoln as tallest president if elected

He's thin too, but very, very tall.

[herding cats]

293. He literally towered over me. 🤣

I'm a full foot shorter than he is and he stooped down when he was talking to me. I think he may have even bent his knees a bit when we were taking pics so as to look less looming.

To be clear, this was when he was running for the Texas Senate. Not recently.

[hlthe2b]

4. apparently DeBlasio is really tall (I never knew that): 6 ft 5

Beto is 6 ft 4

Cory Booker is 6 ft 2

[Skittles]

6. Beto's height alone would freak out Trump

[Hekate]

56. Julian Castro's assistants should insist he not ever have to stand next to those basketball players

...in group photos. And do like Barbara Boxer's assistants and pre-place a box behind his podium.

Jeez he is short.

[yellowdogintexas]

119. yes I am 5' 4" and I can look him and Joaquin in the eye. nt

[tblue37]

123. Looks even taller between two women. nt

[ecstatic]

252. I'm glad you asked. I was wondering too

but didn't want to seem petty. lol!

[ecstatic]

5. Sen K goes in on trump right away.

Good job.

[ecstatic]

7. Beto... ummm

LOL at the way Booker was looking at him.

[oldsoftie]

232. I thought the same thing

[Funtatlaguy]

8. Beto breaks out the Spanish right away.

Is he going to answer all questions in both languages?

[Skittles]

10. why not?

[Funtatlaguy]

13. Time.

[babylonsister]

53. I agree. That was unexpected. nt

[TomSlick]

76. Because most Spanish speaking voters also speak English. The opposite is not true.

I got it, he speaks Spanish and I'm envious. However, I would prefer that tonight he speak to all or at least most of us.

[oldsoftie]

234. Because it was obvious pandering. And not great Spanish either.

[onetexan]

341. i don't mind him speaking Spanish at all. It's rather a great quality he is bilingual.

[Skittles]

348. yes

I intend to learn Spanish when I retire; I have always wanted to be bilingual

[Skittles]

345. they need Latino support

all of them

[oldsoftie]

359. At least wiat for a question where it MIGHT makes sense to do it.

Cory Booker looked at him like "Are you serious?"

[Sucha NastyWoman]

343. Oh no!

Mayor Pete speaks eight languages!

[musicblind]

18. I do wish he had saved it for a question about immigration.

I think it would have had more shock value in that context.

And you know they will ask him about immigration because of where he is from. If they don't ask him that question, they are being negligent.

[essadaw]

64. This is on Telemundo not just nbc

That audience shouldn’t be ignored if a candidate can speak directly to them

[wyldwolf]

9. Booker looking at Beto speaking Spanish like "what the fuuuu..."

[hlthe2b]

16. LOL yeah... I'm saddened to say someone did a bad job on Booker's tv makeup...

I realize the lighting is a real challenge given such diversity in skin tones, but I really think it is the makeup.

[emmaverybo]

20. Most Spanish speakers in America are bi-lingual. I find Beto's translation irritating. Why?

[ecstatic]

80. It was an awkward moment, IMO.

Around here, we'd call it "doing too much." lol!

[SunSeeker]

274. Yep. nt

[MadLinguist]

314. He was translating his Spanish for mono-lingual English speakers

not for speakers of Spanish. He spoke Spanish, yes, for Latino voters, but also to let the electorate see that he has rapport with them. Beto's not my first choice, but I thought it was a good move

[Funtatlaguy]

11. Savannah Guthrie thinks she's Lydia

from the Handmaids Tale.
Chill out a little.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Yes she is fucking up the pace

[onecaliberal]

238. She should not be a moderator.

[drray23]

12. Beto did not start as strongly as the others.

He seemed to fumble his answer.

[Lithos]

15. He avoided the answer

Was a rather simple Y/N question...

[tishaLA]

24. Sen Klobuchar also avoided answering

About whether the plans are unrealistic. It's frustrating

[Lithos]

31. Yes

It will not be unique to a single candidate tonight...

[Indygram]

25. So is the question just asked to Warren

Who is doing the same thing Beto did. They want to get their positions out however they can.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. He could have easily said yes the rates should be higher we'll see

What rate later. Or something...bit to completely ignore made him look bad

[Lithos]

42. Seemed weak

The question was not worth a bland reply

[Indygram]

17. They tried to ask him a yes or no question

He wasn't having it.

[musicblind]

26. It wasn't the strongest, but it wasn't that bad.

I felt he made good points and I don't appreciate absolutist questions like that when you have so very, very little time to explain the reasoning behind whatever answer you give.

He should have saved the Spanish for a "wow" moment on an immigration question.

He's in my top five favorite candidates, so I'm not saying that to bash him. I wish him well in this.

[drray23]

33. Yes it was not bad

But I agree he should use Spanish when discussing immigration. It would have a greater impact.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Stupid question for sure

[drray23]

19. Warren started off pretty strongly.

So far I would say she has an edge.

[frazzled]

22. Booker stronger

Just my opinion

[musicblind]

30. I agree. So far, her answers have been my favorite.

But, we're only 12 minutes into 2 hours. We'll see if that oratory skill holds up.

[Stallion]

68. Ha! Looks Like horse-race after 12 Minutes

[Lithos]

23. So far all policy - no attacks

[Hekate]

86. Just now (Ryan?) lit in to Beto on health care

[Lithos]

90. yeah

a bit sad for that...

[Hekate]

97. And he looked smug about it, like he scored a point

[tblue37]

236. Castro went after Beto on immigration, too. nt

[emmaverybo]

27. Good on ya Castro. Pass E.R.A. I don't think any other candidate has mentioned E.R.A. Castro is

definitely a candidate who has not garnered attention commensurate with his appeal thus far. He is
a strong communicator.

[hlthe2b]

28. Yeah... Equal Rights Amendment--about damned time someone brings this up!

[musicblind]

43. Absolutely. I was talking about it with my Mother just two days ago.

My Mom is in her 70's and she honestly thought that amendment had already passed. It should have already passed.

[tishaLA]

29. Sec Castro's answer was really strong IMO

I think he's a much better candidate than his polling numbers

[ecstatic]

55. Yeah. If I move from Warren, it will be to Castro.

I've only recently realized that I agree with him on just about everything.

[tishaLA]

73. Before January or so, I believed he was milquetoast

And really cautious. He's not at all

[barbtries]

259. ditto

i like him a lot. Also Booker and Inslee and....

a lot of them. it's an embarrassment of riches. we will be in good hands as long as we GOTV!!

[tishaLA]

34. I thought Gabbard was gonna say "please clap"

[drray23]

39. She chose to go the route of introducing herself to the audience.

It's hard to do, you dont want to sound like a braggart, yet want to introduce yourself.

[mopinko]

48. doesnt help when you completely disregard the question.

[drray23]

57. Yeap. That was not very skillful. Nt.

[musicblind]

36. It's such a shame Harris isn't on the same stage as Warren.

Both have excellent oratory skills.

I'm actually more interested in seeing the two of them debate than I am in seeing Warren and Sanders debate.

[tishaLA]

45. Same

[Sneederbunk]

78. There will be other debates.

[Lithos]

37. Strong Blasio comments

n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Passion, it's important

[wyldwolf]

54. absolutely

[wyldwolf]

59. Warren knows her stuff

[Lithos]

70. Yes

She's on point - totally....

[sprinkleeninow]

163. I thought so also.

He does make a strong visual, his whole being.

[ecstatic]

41. I like what deBlasio is saying. I want to see more of that.

I want all the candidates to express our platform proudly, regardless of how the moderators try to shape the question in a negative way.

[mia]

49. Agree.

He made all of the candidates look good.

[emmaverybo]

67. Yes. Liked his specifics re auto industry. He is prepared, articulate, has more presence than I

expected, not having seen much of him before.

[sprinkleeninow]

191. I'm liking him from not even considering him.

Why am I being drawn to Tim Evans.

Savannah, cool yer jets!!

[dflprincess]

168. I agree.

I loved when he went off on our healthcare system not working & his comments on immigration are spot on.

[hlthe2b]

44. Very good, Inslee-- bringing up the unions

jobs via clean energy!

[tblue37]

245. Warren, too, about green products as the key to future economic success. nt

[JohnnyLib2]

47. Inslee has experience and a lot to offer.

I hope tonight helps him.

[drray23]

63. He was impressive I his answer.

He has mainly being putting an emphasis on climate change but he has bonafide has a governor when it comes to the economy in his state and union support.

[dem4decades]

91. He was on Ari tonight and made a solid case for himself.

He's interesting and has great experience.

[Lithos]

50. Moderators are very active

Not a bad job... I would not do as well - being honest

[a kennedy]

113. IN MY OPINION they keep asking Senator Warren more questions then anyone else.......

[Lithos]

143. A function of her polling

I think they stated as such in the introduction

[tblue37]

332. Only at first, then they started favoring Beto and Booker. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

51. This debate is sucking. Giant elephant in room...crazy

Man in WH

[hlthe2b]

52. They are all doing well--I think Trump should be shitting himself by now

[Laura PourMeADrink]

131. No way imho

[hlthe2b]

133. Why? Expand, please

[Laura PourMeADrink]

218. I don't see any if them standing out as supremely

savvy. That's what it will take to beat him. All great, nice people though and any would be a good prez.

[BeyondGeography]

58. Warren, so prepared

[Jersey Devil]

69. Her plan for green is powerful

She is in high gear.

[Jersey Devil]

81. quote of the night so far: "all foam and no beer" - Klochubar

a little humor is a good thing

[sprinkleeninow]

227. Yeah, that was good! eom

[apcalc]

271. Amy is very positive and smart imo.

[sprinkleeninow]

277. I've listened to her being a guest on shows and those didn't do her justice.

Tonite is clarifying for me.

[Hekate]

92. Speaks in compound sentences and in paragraphs

[BeyondGeography]

107. You could print her answers out

you wouldn’t see the need to add, subtract or change a word. She’s pretty amazing.

[herding cats]

299. She's an amazing speaker.

She gets her ideas across cleanly and simply. I do enjoy that.

[babylonsister]

142. She's rocking it! nt

[dixiegrrrrl]

60. I wish the guys would stop yelling

they have microphones, fer crying...out loud.

[tishaLA]

61. The 1 minute thing hampers folks with real ideas

Like Sen Warren. To her credit, she's squeezing everything she has out of that minute

[elleng]

65. Of course it does.

[nsd]

62. Ryan's answer was pretty good.

For someone who hasn’t gotten a lot of attention, he did well.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

71. I like him ..he's a young Biden. Passion

[sop]

66. I wonder which one will address the outrageous amount of money we spend on defense

when one of the moderators asks the predictable, "How are you going to pay for it?" question.

[emmaverybo]

85. Because they do not want to play into the Dems soft on defense meme. Yes, considering a

bloated budget that does not help troop readiness and safety, should be a no-brainer to talk about
the blatant waste, but that opens up a can of worms and leads to spin.

[ecstatic]

72. Why do the mods keep saying "government" like it's a dirty word?

lol

[marybourg]

74. Wow. What a great bunch of candidates

I love them all !

[madaboutharry]

75. They are all doing well.

I really like Sen. Klobuchar. She seems very confident.

They are all so smart!

I really wish they wouldn’t think they need to yell.

[sprinkleeninow]

233. I'm liking Amy more. eom

[wasupaloopa]

77. Why is Warren given more time then the rest?

She spoke 4 times so far

[Lithos]

82. She is in the first band of popularity

n/t

[wasupaloopa]

110. So we should hear from the others more.

[Lithos]

117. They are following the existing polls

Argue with the people who organized.... Just dealing with my understanding of the framework...

I'm thinking this debate has been an awesome event so far - yes quibbling to individual candidates, but the overall message and themes have been very positive..

[wasupaloopa]

280. I am hearing very good ideas from each candidate. It might be good to get all these

ideas in the platform.

[Lithos]

284. I think in a general sense they are

There is a certain consensus all candidates are projecting...

[herding cats]

324. If you read the platform, they're mostly all in it already.

We really are a very decent and good political party. The problem is we're a two party system which means there's no marginalized extremists like in a parliamentary system. The extreme Rights rise with Republicans is an example of this failing in our system. Our extremist have more sway than in any other modern major political system. Which is why the experts speculate Trump and his populist following have taken us over. It's also why we (Democrats) are forced to tolerate candidates we by majority on a large (but not locally in their states/districts) dislike. It's a simple majority rules system.

Basically, our system is flawed but it's what we must work within.

[Baitball Blogger]

79. Warren is getting good exposure.

I think some of the others also hit on good themes, and I hope by the General we'll consolidate the best of the best ideas.

[Goodheart]

83. Warren is lighting this up!

[northoftheborder]

84. I want to protest Warren being asked her third question, when some have not had one.

Unfair allocation of time by moderators.

now she's getting her fourth.

[BlueStater]

99. That's annoying.

It's felt like from the beginning that they've been trying to pick our frontrunners for us and my opinion hasn't changed.

They've singled out Biden, Sanders, Warren, Harris, and Buttigieg as their favorites and the rest can apparently just eat shit.

[Apple Fritter]

372. I know!

Yeah it's apparent maybe in the time given, but also really like they were selling it. I get the others but not Buttigieg and Harris they get as much coverage as Booker, Beto, or Yang? I am not saying it's rigged but Warrens pretty face was front and center. They are selling us "products" here.

[TexasTowelie]

102. And now she gets to do a follow-up on the health care question.

While she makes good points, they are giving preferential treatment.

[Bradshaw3]

108. The "questions" were basically Guthrie trying to bait the others into attacking her

They didn't go for it, but it wasn't promoting her.

[obamanut2012]

136. It is not unfair, it is how this was set up

All agreed to the rules.

[LAS14]

367. You're the second person that is suggesting that number of questions...

... is a function of poll numbers (or I think that's what you're suggesting - if not, could you elaborate?). Could you tell me where you saw/heard this stated?

[ecstatic]

87. Who's this guy sticking up for hospitals? I wish they'd put the names up. lol

[nsd]

94. Delaney

[hlthe2b]

95. ummm hmmm

[pangaia]

116. Who's he?

[ecstatic]

121. I was forced to pull up a wiki guide (with pictures and names side by side):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

Hope that helps!

[tblue37]

337. A congressman. nt

[drray23]

98. That was delaney and he is right

To point out it's not that simple. Small rural hospitals are struggling. If they had to accept lower payments without it being balanced by people who has private insurance they would go under. If we want to go Medicare for all, we will have to address that . I have yet to see a proposal which does that.

[drray23]

88. Inslee is pretty strong.nt.

[flibbitygiblets]

89. Oh we have our first dogfight: DeBlasio interrupted Beto's answer, and then Delaney interrupted him,

on the question of private insurance. And the moderators just "let it play out".

[wasupaloopa]

93. Correct health care providers cannot remain open

if reimbursed at Medicare rates for everyone treated.

[nolabear]

96. Is Booker for Medicare for all or not?

Sounds like he is but he didn’t raise his hand.

[mia]

100. Like John Delaney on health care.

I want the option to buy additional coverage for me and my family.

[ecstatic]

101. Inslee and Delaney are kind of loud and obnoxious, IMO.

This is my first experience watching them, but I don't like the aggressive, loud interruptions.

[Lithos]

103. Hard to make a sharp difference about women's rights

In front of the women on this stage...

[nsd]

120. They need to break through

The moderators keep calling on Warren. The others have to find some way to stand out.

[ecstatic]

127. Yeah, but DeBlasio's interruption was well done. The pitch/ tone

and energy level was good. Maybe their mics are messed up?

[madaboutharry]

104. It seems like they are starting to ignore

the moderators!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

105. This is not helping me. They're *all* really smart and well-informed.

[Bradshaw3]

118. I agree

They have all come off well so far I think. It's just a bad format to showcase differences and strengths, but what can the DNC do when they have 20 plus candidates? I don't have an alternative.

[tishaLA]

106. REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE!Go Julian!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

199. I liked that a lot.

[El Supremo]

109. Texas: Castro showed up Beto.

Beto didn't even answer the question in poor Spanish.

[Lithos]

111. Can't judge his Spanish

However, I am looking for substance - no matter the substance.

But would offer that Castro has been shorter and sharper in his comments.

[sop]

303. Beto's command of Spanish is excellent

[Lithos]

317. Thanks

I wish I could judge myself - but my own weakness

[pangaia]

139. Me feed must be 8 minutes behind YOUTUBE...

[emmaverybo]

144. Castro succinct, prepared, compassionate response to immigration question. He has been working

on this.

[sop]

296. Castro is very impressive, doing himself a lot of good in this crowded field

[nolabear]

112. Booker has been surprisingly reserved.

But honestly, everyone is doing pretty well.

[Baitball Blogger]

162. He came out strong on immigration.

His Spanish was a struggle, but I give him credit for trying.

[Hekate]

114. Warren: "Full range of women's health care". YES!!!

It is what it is! Abortion is not an outlier, it is part of the continuum.

[nolabear]

124. Amen to that!

And making RvW a federal law would be amazing.

[tishaLA]

122. I thought Beto would be doing better

Than I feel like he is. The best for me so fat as Sens Warren and Booker and Sec Castro

[Laura PourMeADrink]

138. Beto has a great heart, but he's in over his head

[calguy]

167. Beto would make a great Senator

A President? Not so much.

[bdamomma]

258. I think

Beto would be a great Senator.

[liskddksil]

347. We already have a candidate in M.J Heger

https://www.mjfortexas.com/

We need Beto's voice at the national level.

[barbtries]

269. sad to say i agree.

several of the other candidates are standing out and he seems to be floundering somewhat. he's not my choice anyway but i do like him a lot; maybe he'll run for the senate and win.

[lunatica]

126. I want them all to be President!

I really thought I would be leaning more towards one. Damn!

[marybourg]

128. Who is this guy wearing his wife's eyeglasses?

[Skittles]

350. ...

[Jersey Devil]

129. Commercials? WTF?

Are you kidding?

[ecstatic]

151. On MSNBC I don't think they've taken a break yet.

Which is problematic because I need to make a phone call and make some popcorn.

[cannabis_flower]

266. I second that emotion...

I was just thinking, bathroom, popcorn!

[aaaaaa5a]

130. Elizabeth Warren is dominating

Being the only front runner tonight is a big help. The Mods are treating her like a front runner and giving her more time.

[emmaverybo]

170. Well, that's why, But in substantive and specific answers she has competition. Oh, this is

getting condescending. Of all language groups in this country, Spanish speakers are the most likely
to be bi-lingual. So far, Warren not breaking out her Spanish.

[MadDAsHell]

132. Why aren't the mics tied to the answer timer?

Turn a person's mic on when they're asked a question, turn it off when their time is up.

I don't get why people are allowed to outshout eachother, nor why the moderators have to shout to get someone to stop talking, as opposed to just shutting off their mic.

People would be much more respectful of the time limits if they ran the risk of the mic shutting off mid-answer and looking like a fool.

[Hekate]

134. Julian: "It's heartbreaking. But it should also piss us off." Passion for the immigrants!

Go, Julian!

[nsd]

140. Julian

[Hekate]

156. Lulz. Will fix it.

Aww, they look alike.

[Funtatlaguy]

186. Well, they are twins...so...

[Hekate]

193. Identicals, yep

[tishaLA]

145. That's Julian nt

t

[Hekate]

164. Fixed

[tishaLA]

135. Castro's immigration plan truly is exceptional

[Baitball Blogger]

141. Booker and Castro get the question of the day: immigration.

Doing well.

[ecstatic]

146. OK, Booker is doing too much as well.

It was awkward when Beto did it, and awkward when Booker did it just now. They should take their cues from Castro.

[nsd]

172. I don't think Castro really speaks Spanish.

He only started learning a few years ago.

[ecstatic]

190. Oops! Silly of me to assume

like that!

[Goodheart]

147. Castro wins the immigration issue.

[LeftInTX]

148. Booker's Spanish...LOL

His accent is bad

[Jersey Devil]

149. Language Lab?

First Beto now Booker. Personally, I could care less if a candidate speaks another language.

[aaaaaa5a]

154. +1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

157. I don't get it. Are people who don't understand English

Watching? And just waiting for a bit of Spanish?

[ecstatic]

161. lmao! Good point! nt

[emmaverybo]

187. LOL. No. And why do these candidates not know Spanish speakers, even recent immigrants,

but certainly people working here, are bi-lingual, especially in comprehension, which can be more
advanced at first than one’s speaking fluency.

[not_the_one]

209. you would think they would be watching telemundo...

n/t

[cannabis_flower]

300. Actually...

the people who don't understand English are watching it on Telemundo.

[hlthe2b]

360. co-sponsored by Telemundo, so yes

[Laura PourMeADrink]

363. so dubbed on Telemundo or closed caption in spanish? or purely in English?

[hlthe2b]

365. Apparently even the accented Spanish (Beto & Booker) was received very positively by Miami

Hispanic/Latino audiences.

https://thehill.com/latino/430099-telemundo-to-become-first-spanish-language-channel-to-host-dem-presidential-debate

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/27/18760721/democratic-debate-spanish

[ecstatic]

152. DeBlasio is winning this debate. nt

[Goodheart]

158. That last point was exceptional! The immigrants are not to blame for your pain.

[True Dough]

159. He has a huge polling deficit to overcome

Not sure a strong performance tonight would be enough for him to dig his way out.

[Jersey Devil]

165. He is impressive

Much better than I expected.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

169. You can tell he is very intelligent. But new yorkers

Don't like him?

[marybourg]

243. They liked him fine before he started running

for President

[JudyM]

174. His looking into the camera to tell the audience that the immigrants haven't caused their problems,

that corporations did... that was powerful.

[Celerity]

176. cannot believe I am saying this, but I 100 percent agree, he would slam Rump around too

Much taller than Rump for the true dom

[emmaverybo]

192. He's a surprise.

[spooky3]

194. Ryan was good on the ICE disaster.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

237. Wish he could talk more...really like him. And he's not

Rudely interrupting

[herding cats]

305. He's done well.

I'm not displeased at all.

[Celerity]

155. Bookers Spanish is better than Beto's lololol

[Laura PourMeADrink]

177. WTF deblasio and Castro interrupting Beto . FU

[drray23]

160. De blasio is trying to out left warren et al.

I did not realize he was that progressive. I thought he was a moderate democrat.

[nolabear]

166. In case you're wondering if Spanky is live tweeting, I looked.

Five minutes ago, one word. “BORING!”

He’s taking a whupping for it. 😂

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

184. The issues are too complicated for him.

[ecstatic]

197. lol!!! nt

[sop]

318. They've hardly mentioned Trump by name, only the mistakes he's made

[BeyondGeography]

171. Why are the knives out for poor Beto?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

181. Very rude

[JI7]

185. they are jealous of him

[BeyondGeography]

196. Very possibly true

[karynnj]

208. The NYT debate thread mentioned that there is a grudge between Castro and Beto

Castro's twin was positioned to run for the Senate when Be to jumped in.

However, I think Castro is far better informed and more thoughtful.

[BeyondGeography]

213. Beto hasn't countered well

He has sounded unfocused, not totally prepared.

[karynnj]

235. Absolutely agree

I have never been impressed by Beto, other than his scripted entry events. He was a media favorite, without the substance of nearly every other candidate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

242. He has the heart. He's a doer. He's not an intellectual policy wondering what.

[karynnj]

247. I agree

So many of his opponents also have the heart, are doers, and are far more intellectual and thoughtful. If we can have all three of these essential qualities, why accept someone who is not strong in all three.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

256. Maybe human nature. People want a likeable person

Few up there have that quality.

[herding cats]

331. This is a fact.

On both counts.

I really like Beto, I voted for him and campaigned for him, but if I'm being honest, I feel he had a lot more work to do here in Texas before running for president to make me feel truly fulfilled. Which means absolutely nothing in regards to his presidential run.

I'm not trashing him in any way. I like him very much as a person and politician. I find him a kind and decent person in my exchanges with him and I'd definitely vote for him in the GE with enthusiasm based in his political persuasions.

[mtnsnake]

173. If it keeps going like this, Biden will be the winner of the first debate

even though he isn't there. Warren doing pretty well as usual, and Castro and Inslee impressing somewhat. Everyone is mostly answering the questions with prepared speeches which I guess is to be expected.

IMO, no one in this group, other than Warren possibly to some extent, has given me an indication that they would be great as a general election campaigner. I think I'm most disappointed in Beto so far.

[wyldwolf]

175. So far Warren is the smartest in the room. De Blasio shows passion. Castro strongest on immigration

Can we get a Beto-Castro debate on immigration?

[Celerity]

180. those 3 are winning in my book, Klobuchar a close 4th

[Baitball Blogger]

178. I don't like the way some of the men are talking over each other.

Moderators are letting it go on too long.

[nolabear]

183. We posted that at the same time.

[Arkansas Granny]

225. They all know the rules and I assume they agreed to abide by them.

When they all talk over each other they just waste time and you can't hear what they're saying.

[nolabear]

179. The men are shouting one another down and the women are left out.

I hope Warren jumps back in more.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

189. This is a total shit show. Who would LIKE any of these people?

Except maybe the calmer people not interrupting

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

195. Me. I love all of them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

340. That just seems so unnatural to love all of them.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

344. By way of further explanation, I think they are all competent, smart and sincere.

Any of them would be a vast improvement over Trump. I do have my favorites and there are some I like a little less, but I'm proud of our lineup.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

354. In a normal world that would be plenty good enough

Like someone said on MSNBC in the background...they were surprised they didn't tie their thoughts as opposed to trump more. Yes, tell us what you believe but make a distinction against trump. It's like they all with a couple of exceptions, forgot who they are really running against in the end. People want to see trump go down !!!

[nolabear]

200. I don't know. I'm surprisingly positive about them.

They’re scrapping but the things they’re saying have merit. And they’re not getting personal.

[spooky3]

203. Ditto nt

[elleng]

204. MERIT!

[elleng]

201. Difficult format.

I would like EACH of them.

[barbtries]

308. i like them all.

feeling pretty good about 2020 as long as we GOTV massively.

[pangaia]

182. The look on Warren's face as those 3 or 4 guys on either side of her were yelling at each other..

bravo Liz..

[Hekate]

205. She will persist

[LeftInTX]

188. It's not a crime to cross the border..it's a civil thing..it's also about customs

[aaaaaa5a]

198. So far it's Warren's night.

Castro and Booker doing well too.

Beto is struggling.

Jmho

[Funtatlaguy]

206. I agree. DeBlasio fourth.

[emmaverybo]

210. I agree. Struggle, discomfort is written all over him. He looks like the kid in the room. I am

surprised he’s not better prepared and confident. Not a good medium for him.

[tishaLA]

214. That's my read, too

Whixh means Chris Matthews will say the exact opposite

[pangaia]

202. What a difference between this multi-candidate debate

and the repuks in 2016.

[drray23]

217. Indeed. Instead of throwing juvenile insults at each other

They are basing their answers on cogent arguments.

[pangaia]

222. I wasn't going to watch just because.....

But, it's interesting. Not so much to me for their answers, but how each handles her/him self,

[nolabear]

207. Can I just say how good it is to hear normal people?

I like some better than others but they’re SANE.

[elleng]

211. YES!

[emmaverybo]

216. Amy wonderful line. Shouldn't conduct foreign policy at 1 a.m. in his bathrobe. Wish she could

have pointed that one up, but she had to squeeze it in.

[aaaaaa5a]

224. +1

Given the format and number of people it has been surprisingly informative.


Nobody talking about the size of their _____! Big difference.

[sop]

325. Complete sentences that make sense

[madaboutharry]

212. I think Sen. Klobuchar is showing

that she would be a great president.

Calm, respectful, smart.

[Hekate]

215. Anyone else think Beto is not answering his questions? Too much air?

[drray23]

220. Indeed. As I posted earlier I think he is more at ease

In small gatherings and town halls. He does not seem to be able to handle the debate format with other sharp opponents.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

262. He seemed shocked when Castro and Blasio started

Interrupting. Like "wtf"

Castro and deblasio are totally out for me now

[hlthe2b]

221. I like Beto, but his inexperience is hurting him in this setting

[emmaverybo]

246. Stage fright jumps him into scripted, prepared comments. Needs to take a second to breathe, focus,

do a filler like nod thoughtfully, little internal mantra, and answer the question. I will say it again, Beto needs speech coach. Not just for delivery, but relaxation, and strategies.

[barbtries]

219. Well I like many of the responses I am hearing.

I love Elizabeth Warren. The standout so far for me is Julian Castro. If not this time, I'm thinking he should be president one day.
deBlasio's response to income equality was stellar. Inslee is representing. Beto seems to be a target and perhaps a victim of his own past statements, and Klobuchar, who I find incredibly personable and appealing, a bit of a hawk still referring to human beings as illegal.

Also I don't know who the woman moderator is. But did she really say do you have a plan to allow people entering illegally into the country. Thanks to Julian Castro I know now how republicans have abused the law to do that. I cried watching the segment about the father and daughter who drowned.

right now my computer froze and i am not hearing anything. blargh

[madaboutharry]

226. Bloomberg?

I think you mean Mayor de Blasio.

Bloomberg isn’t running for president.

[elleng]

230. LOL! Seen one New Yawka, seen 'em all!

[barbtries]

261. oh shit lol

i got them confused. i did mean de Blasio and will edit my post. thank you!!

[tblue37]

342. Savannah Guthrie. nt

[barbtries]

349. thank you.

now i know her name. don't know who she is though. i tend to not know these things except for the main MSNBC lineup and a few on CNN

[MoonchildCA]

223. Poll bumps go to...

... Castro, Booker, Warren, in that order.

I had to get that in writing so I can check myself and prove to my husband how smart I am.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

228. Castro and Booker not coming off as likable. F

[MoonchildCA]

239. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

273. You too! It's two prong: likeability + intelligence

You can't win without both

[pangaia]

229. It's a break and some idiot moron is screeching and blathering

about trumps approval percentages, blah

It just shows at a STARK difference between intelligent people DEMOCRATS talkijng about somehtihg and the total bullshit that passes for news, comentary..


thank god he just finisged

ooopps now an ad for LESTER HOLT !
YAAAAAY!!!

[oldsoftie]

231. I cant stand it when candidates wont answer a direct question as asked.

Savannah Guthrie asked Beto point blank, would you approve a 70% tax rate, yes or no.
He never answered. Just went into the standard politician mode of repeating a point HE wanted to make.
As much as i dislike DeBlasio, he was the first to actually say what Dems SHOULD be for, instead of blathering.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

249. Stupid question but you are right,,, a candidate should be prepared

With a way to answer an obvious question.

[NCDem47]

240. So let me get this straight...

Trump can get away with saying his “plan” is to hire great people to figure out policy details, but D’s Are bombarded with providing minutiae to show their grasp of a subject.

[ConstanceCee]

241. Several Thoughts

It's great they are not attacking each other and are sticking to the issues. I also think Klobucher is calmly doing well. The men need to tone it down a bit.

[Jersey Devil]

244. Klochubar doing very well, but needs more air time

I hope they direct more questions to her. Her answers so far, though abbreviated, were very good.

[emmaverybo]

250. Agree. Women have to get a way to signal men to back off. Humor, a hand in the air. just custom and

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testosterone. Need to get yer strategies. She is not getting the time. I like her demeanor and clarity.

[aaaaaa5a]

251. She is excellent.

Unfortunately she can’t win the nomination.

[hlthe2b]

253. Frankly, I think she'd make a wonderful Senate Majority Leader...

[aaaaaa5a]

248. Warren's first bad moment.

She couldn’t answer the question. Very surprising.

[LAS14]

368. Which question? (I'm not reading this in real time, obviously). nt

[Takket]

254. Todd just called gun buybacks "confiscation."

Thankfully Klobushar shut that bullshit down. FUCK TODD

[Jersey Devil]

267. Todd's questions suck

.

[emmaverybo]

255. Good one getting that in on the gun licensing, Booker.

[nolabear]

260. That was good.

[aaaaaa5a]

257. Booker nailed it! Good moment.

[emmaverybo]

263. Thursday candidates have an advantage having seen tonight's performance. They get to see how

rivals are answering and how the format works so they can better work it.

[aaaaaa5a]

264. Poor John Delaney.

I forgot he was up there.

Tim Ryan too.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

278. Tim Ryan! These debates really only help the leaders

[tblue37]

307. Delaney is doing surprisingly well with the few questions he is getting. nt

[Takket]

265. my plan for dealing with mcconnell.......

put him on his shell and refuse to flip him back over until he works with Democrats.

[tblue37]

268. They make no effort to give all the candidates approximately equal time. nt

[BlueStater]

272. Glad I didn't watch then.

I had a feeling they would pull horseshit like this. The fact that Inslee has hardly been mentioned at all in these threads, either positively or negatively, is telling.

[tblue37]

310. Inslee has actually done pretty well with his questions, but he isn't getting that many. nt

[BlueStater]

320. InsLEE.

But, yeah, that's what I thought. Sounds like he's getting screwed. He can't introduce himself to the American people if he's barely given any time. Why they decided to give Bill De Blasio so much time is beyond. Such a random decision on their part.

[tblue37]

329. I KNOW that--but apparently autocorrect does not. I am deaf, so I was trying to read

closed captioning on the debate at the same time, so I didn't catch the autocorrect damage when I posted.

I think "Inside" for "Inslee" is pretty obviously an autocorrect glitch.

[BlueStater]

334. Sorry. I thought you genuinely got his name wrong.

I've seen about three posts confusing him with Bill De Blasio tonight, so I don't feel like it's completely unreasonable for me to have thought that.

[Hekate]

373. I understand -- hate autocorrect and have had to turn it off.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

281. This debate is horrible

[tblue37]

301. They give too many questions to Beto--especially Chuck Todd does tgat. nt

[mtngirl47]

270. I'm a political junkie and this format is annoying to me...

I want to change the channel...I imagine most Americans already did change the channel.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

283. Yes they did turn channel. It's horribly nerve wracking

And it's just a bunch of people trying to speak too quickly

[drray23]

275. Its rapidly spiraling out of control.nt.

[emmaverybo]

276. Ryan hit nail on head. Chuck is obstructive in cutting off before time up so they are forced to try

to spit out essential while he makes his cu5 off noises. Use a damn timer bell. Why does he get the lion’s share of questioning? What are the rest there for?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

279. Love Tim Ryan. Don't get why he's so low

[hlthe2b]

282. He has good positions; I think many remember his attempts to push out Pelosi, though

[Laura PourMeADrink]

295. That's looking pretty smart now

[emmaverybo]

286. He nailed a major problem here. Dems need to take what he said seriously.

[essadaw]

285. Beto had good gun and climate answers

He’s getting more in the groove of the debate. He’s not as combative as most of the others. But most of the others are coming across as a- holes. I’ d rather have Beto’s performance than some of the others

[Laura PourMeADrink]

289. He is dignified and has tons if heart. He's not a yelling a-hole

[Skittles]

352. agreed

[Laura PourMeADrink]

287. Deblasio is acting like an a-hole digging at Beto every turn

[BadgerMom]

294. DeBlasio comes across as an angry older white man.

We’ve seen this movie.

[MustLoveBeagles]

312. Yeah

You'd think Beto had kicked his dog or something.

[True Dough]

288. I hope someone is clocking each cadidate's talking time

Would be very interesting to see afterwards how many minutes each person got.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

290. Seems like Booker got most time

[True Dough]

292. De Blasio can't be too far behind

Delaney (not that I'm a big fan) has had precious little time. Inslee too.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

298. I know and deblasio had like zero %. Loudmouth

[Laura PourMeADrink]

364. Hey ! Took me a while to find this - just to brag :) - CNN had a time poll - and Booker

did have most. LOL. Surprised Beto had second most.

[True Dough]

366. de Blasio was second last in minutes on the microphone!

That surprised me. Seemed like he got more than his share of talking time. I guess his aggression made him stand out. That and, to his credit, he did make a few strong statements.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

371. i agree. I just had a flash - how did they measure the time. Like if someone was just

yelling out in the background - maybe they wouldn't have counted that time? Bet it was comical - the people actually creating this poll.

[SunSeeker]

291. I am surprised to say DeBlasio and Booker did well tonight.

I was a bit disappointed in Warren, in her failure to answer questions squarely. Was hoping for more passion and bravery from her. By the end of the evening she seemed to disappear from the stage. Unfortunately, these formats favor the bold, those willing to interrupt and interject, like DeBlasio did. Women are taught to wait their turn. That did not serve Warren well tonight.

[drray23]

297. Ryan completely screwed up his answer about withdrawing from afghanistan.

He ended up repeating the stupid RW meme that the Taliban attacked us on 911.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

302. Impeachment now !!!!love you Beto!!!!

[essadaw]

306. Yes Beto is doing great now

He is one of the few giving thoughtful answers instead of trying to out scream the others

[Laura PourMeADrink]

309. Once he got over the shock of Castro and deblasio coming after him

[essadaw]

319. I think Beto may have done the best w/less political viewers

Most everyone else came across as raging jerks. Beto was thoughtful and respectful and likeable. I think everyone gloating about him getting shouted over and attacked may be surprised at how people newly seeing the candidates are reacting

[Boomer]

361. Or not

My opinion of Beto went down during the debates. I thought he did poorly.

[colsohlibgal]

304. Nice Skirmish!

Tulsi and Ryan Going At it.

Thought she did give a reasonable reason for some of her past positions.

[tblue37]

327. I am not a fan of hers, but I thought she did well tonight. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

311. Out 4 me Tulsi,Delaney,Castro,Booker&deblasio

[LAS14]

369. Why Castro and Booker? nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

370. Just did not like their style - their rude interruptions. Although both may be smart -

they seriously lack likeability - imho. People will say likeability is unimportant. I disagree 100%. You have to have smarts, likeability, passion and savvy. If you put that test to each of them - you can almost see how it correlates to current poll ratings.

[mtnsnake]

313. I think Delaney is a clown

I can't believe he's up there with the rest of the candidates. Kind of embarrassing.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

315. His voice is like a cartoon character

[bdamomma]

316. I think they

are all doing well for the time they are getting. All have answered well. Some tense moments but good. Town Halls are better. But Ryan and Inslee are good too.

Women are doing good. Tulsi told Ryan off.

[Ztolkins]

321. Tulsi gabbard just leveled Tim Ryan tonight.

I knew nothing about her before tonight but I really liked her

[hlthe2b]

322. Honestly, she was the most poised on the stage tonight...

And (before someone brings it up), NO, I have not been a Tulsi fan. Still she had a very good night.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

323. Just because he thinks differently is no reason to be rude and interrupt

[emmaverybo]

326. Did not give me a good impression of her. She enjoyed his getting mixed up too much.

[Ztolkins]

328. I didn't think that's what she was doing

But fair enough.

I just thought that her response to him saying the US needs to be engaged was devastating.. I'm actually surprised that wasn't bigger moment on the internet.

[herding cats]

333. Please, read up on her and Assad first.

I'm not attempting to naysay, I swear. Just make sure you understand her stances.

[Ztolkins]

335. They just mentioned it on MSNBC

They said she met with him to see what was possible there as it's an important region in the world.

But I suspect I will learn more about her.

[herding cats]

338. Make your own informed choices.

Just read up first and learn. I won't lie, I'm not a fan but I want you to come to your own conclusion before I expound.

[Ztolkins]

358. Okay, I have read.

You got to explain this one. Is your only gripe that she met with Assad?

[hlthe2b]

336. Yup... That's why I can credit her with a good performance, yet maintain my strong skepticism.

(not to mention her frequent defense of Putin and derision of Obama)

[herding cats]

339. Oh, yeah. Her defense of Putin and Assad in tandem sets extremely sour in my belly.

While I admit this, and am more than willing to mention it, I'd like everyone to have a chance to see for themselves first.

[Cousin Dupree]

330. I was very surprised by how well Tulsi G did. She owned Tim Ryan. Her facial expressions

toward him were priceless.

[mtnsnake]

351. Yup, I was pleasantly surprised by her, too.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

346. They have to let us know who they are but they should

Have tried to tie it more in contrast to trump. No one did both

[Turin_C3PO]

356. Agree, I was hoping Trump

and his criminal regime would be denounced more forcefully by the candidates.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

357. Jeez at least a bunch of zingers. He's like a treasure trove.

[LeftInTX]

353. I think Julian did surprisingly well...his responses were to the point....

[Laura PourMeADrink]

355. Except he attacked and interrupted Beto. Bad form.

[Clash City Rocker]

362. General opinion seems to be that Castro, Warren and Booker were the winners

And O’Rourke and Gabbard didn’t do well. I’m reading differing opinions on DeBlasio’s and Klobuchar’s performances. The others didn’t really stand out.