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Related: About this forumPete Buttigieg responds: 'If we don't solve this problem it will sink America'
Well, what I hope African-Americans watching this is that our city is facing it, not running away from it, Buttigieg said. This isnt theoretical for us. This isnt something being debated in Washington. Its our problem as it is a problem in so many places. And we are on the front lines of it and were doing everything we know how and figuring out things we never thought of before to manage it.
This problem has to get solved in my lifetime. I dont know of a person or a city that has solved it, but I know that if we do not solve it in my lifetime, it will sink America, Buttigieg said. And if nothing else, I hope people know that I am motivated, not out of some theoretical concern or some political imperative, but as somebody whose city is hurting. Seeing people Ive known for years anguished, frustrated, upset, angry, angry at the city, angry at me, and Im angry, too. And if nothing else, I hope people can see what it is like for a city to face up to the demons that racism has unleashed on the ability of any city, and certainly any police department to function.
Buttigieg, who prides himself on being level-headed and calm, appeared agitated during the town hall and after. One member of the press remarked on it, saying that he seemed upset. Of course Im upset, a man died! Buttigieg said.
Its my city and I have a relationship with everybody in this city who looks to the city to keep them safe, he went on. And when somebody loses their life because of a civilian or because of an officer and its happening all over the country, but its happening here. Then I feel like its my job to face it.
Im sick of these things being talked about in political terms, in theoretical terms like its a show, Buttigieg said. Its peoples lives. And the good news is, if you can call it good news, theres more propulsion, more momentum to deal with this than ever. So if there hasnt been the will to take on the kind of steps, we need to figure out the kind of steps that should have happened by now.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/if-we-dont-solve-this-problem-it-will-sink-america-emotional-pete-buttigieg-responds-after-tense-town-hall/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)I'd like to see any Senator running for the Presidency doing any better.
Talk about experience--Pete has it, and he's getting more as he traverses this baptism by fire.
I'm so proud of him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrank
(11,085 posts)Its a pleasure to listen to him process information and offer suggestions for his way forward.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)and that history was not good. An effective police department that was well run would have had his ass out of uniform before he hurt or killed someone, yet the cop was a command officer, a Sargent, how did that happen?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrank
(11,085 posts)I trust that Pete Buttigieg has listened and learned and will do his best to take the necessary steps toward an effective correction. If I thought for a minute he wouldnt try his hardest to correct this problem, Id never consider voting for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The problems in the police department did not develop overnight. The city has paid out money on police abuse judgements, clearly Buttigieg would have had to sign off on those, should those payments been a red flag that sonething was wrong in the police department?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrank
(11,085 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)* How many citizens have been killed by law enforcement in each of the last 50 years - you need a trend line.
* How many of those involve a deadly weapon on the person being apprehended.
* What is the breakout by race, gender, sexual orientation, age and other demographics of those being killed by law enforcement.
* What is the political affiliation of the police chief in each city. Are we making proper hiring decisions.
* Add your own.
Examine the training of the officers. Why do so many officers not stop firing their weapon until they have emptied the magazine. Are we hiring the right people into law enforcement; do they have the proper temperament for police work. Why is it so hard to weed out bad cops.
Only after you have captured the right data can plans be developed to fix the problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)to mayors who have to, if theyre serious about their towns, solve difficult problems on the ground in real time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
freindship 7
(10 posts)I saw the peoples anger and they have every right to be I like Mayor Pete and I think he is one of the brightest candidates that we have however before he continues to run he should solve this problem.
his response is lip service and someone has to make this right Trump and every other right wing figure will use this against him not to mention the other candidates its just low hanging fruit that will cry out to be picked.
All police officers should use body cams and they should always be active when interacting with a suspect or the public.
His African American public are demanding justice and He should give it to them and this problem was ongoing before he ran and he had no business pursuing the presidency when he has not yet satisfactorily addressed this issue.
I wish him luck but the grenade has gone off and it will stain his campaign unless he gives a better answer and render justice and a policy that will put this issue to rest I wish him luck America needs a leader but this man has to step up and either take one for team U.S.A or find a remedy that will knock this out of the park
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)thorough investigation, and he can fire yet another police chief. He has listened, been present to the protestors, and I have no doubt will oversee an honest investigation.
Something is rotten in the department. He can not fix it overnight.
One thing that should be happening is strong recruitment of black police officers and for black police brass.
I am guessing, however, that the positions are not appealing to folks all over the country.
As to officer positions, for heavens sake. Be the change you want to see.
It would be very tough to work in a department with racists, but there is thatget thee to community college, take the courses in the justice programs, do your stint in campus police, and apply to the academy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)He could have exercised leadership by getting rid of the bad cops - like Aaron Knepper - and diversifying the police force, which is currently 95% white.
The Board of Public Safety and the police chief are under his control.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)are young non-whites applying?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,138 posts)You want and need your police department to reflect the community that they serve, said Operations Division Chief Jeff Rynearson. But that hasnt been the case in South Bend, where roughly 63 percent of the population is white, 26 percent African American and 14 percent Hispanic. Recruiting minorities to serve has always been difficult. Qualified candidates can find more lucrative careers in other areas of law enforcement such as the FBI or CIA. Minorities also have traditionally not had the connection with local police, leaving many potential candidates feeling like outsiders. But South Bend is trying to change that by better guiding potential recruits through the entire process.
Making applications available online has increased the total pool of applicants. Unfortunately, those applicants often dont follow through, especially when it comes to taking the physical test, the first part of becoming an officer. The department now offers a practice physical test about three weeks prior to the official test so applicants can hone their physical skills before the real test comes around. The department has made improvements to the application process, and that will still be a focus in the coming year, which is encouraging.
Theres also a role for the community to play if it wants a police department more reflective of the community. People must encourage young men and women to consider law enforcement as a career. And the police department can help itself by making sure its officers live up to the responsibility of their role in the community, especially when their actions are under a microscope now more than ever. Yes, the department must continue reaching out to find new ways to connect with minorities using every available tool. But the entire community has a stake in this issue. A police department that more closely represents the racial and gender makeup of a community stands a better chance of building trust between officers and the public they serve.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
femmedem
(8,197 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)
And although the Board of Public Safety is made up of people he's appointed, I don't think it is fair to say that after he's appointed them, they are under his control. Three members of the Board of Public Safety are black, with another of five-seat board currently vacant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden