Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,569 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)The polls are a-fire for Joe right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,409 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(12,992 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(101,698 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)B, B, B and B - LOL
H & W, oh my.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gabeana
(3,166 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Although this one is a national poll. Being placed third in New Hampshire will worry him more.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)a true Dem as our candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)at this point.... Plus Bernie and others have produced a pro Progressive agenda and put it out there for better or worse. I honestly still don't know where Joe Biden is on many Progressive issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)I will never follow any "purity test" for democrats this time around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)will clean his clock, there is no need for purity tests, whatever that means, it is all about when we vote for an agenda that is the mandate to implement that agenda if we have a nominee that will not pursue, Healthcare as a right, ending our dependence on fossil fuels, clean renewable energy, fixing the wealth inequality, and providing real social justice in this country than what is the point ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Wed May 1, 2019, 02:47 AM - Edit history (1)
primary indicating he could have beaten trump in the GE he would have won. Oh, I wish I had a Dollar for every time I've heard that...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)because it was true. Bernie would have trounced tRUMP and still will if we are smart enough to make him the Democratic candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Got it
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Look I will grant you that Biden's name recognition is getting him a leg up, but he is a gaffe machine and the numbers will realign soon enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,172 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
karynnj
(59,474 posts)It is almost the opposite. Very rich parents buying admission by bribes in addition to having the money to pay legitimate expenses. Most of the free college proposals are limited to instate at state schools.
This actually happened in some cities or states in the past. In NYC, CUNY was once free or relatively inexpensive. Some of its colleges were very highly rated and it served as a path to the middle and even upper class for many bright, but not wealthy, students. In CA, there was an enviable free or near free university system until Reagan.
But, it was not just liberal coastal states. In the late 1960s, the tuition for an instate student at IU Bloomington was $195 a YEAR for as many credit hours as you chose to take ... And I didn't even pay that because I had a Hoosier scholarship that was designed to be the full tuition at IU for the 4 years I was there.
Now, even more than then, college is needed. Just as there is available free public school for K through 12, it is in our country's interest to have public college available to qualified students whose families can not afford it. ( I would think it fair if their were a sliding scale so families would pay as their income or assets increase.) By qualified, schools could define the level of competence needed to have a reasonable chance to succeed. For those who fail that, it might be beneficial to support remedial education outside college.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,409 posts)And those jobs pay a good salary with benefits. This myth of needing college to be successful is what makes it so damn expensive. University systems raise tuition and other costs almost at will and its ridiculous. its a massive rip off. Not to mention graduating many people with degrees that wont get them into anyones front door.
The most successful people i know never graduated college. And all of them are worth over a million.
https://www.marketplace.org/2018/02/07/business/no-degree-required-more-tech-employers-looking-skills-rather-diploma
https://hechingerreport.org/high-paying-jobs-go-begging-while-high-school-grads-line-up-for-bachelors-degrees/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aggiesal
(8,863 posts)For those who fail that, it might be beneficial to support remedial education outside college.
In California prior to Reagan (as you mentioned), it was free college to any state run school.
This included all UC schools, Cal-State schools and ALL JC's.
You were not guaranteed to get into the top UC or Cal-State schools, but if you got in
your tuition was free. Room & Board + books were not included, but tuition was still considered
the majority of the costs.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
karynnj
(59,474 posts)No one should have the right to get into the top schools. It would be great if all states had those long ago CA choices.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aggiesal
(8,863 posts)University of California system was created in 1868 with the decree that admission and tuition shall be free to all residents of the state, and the California State and community-college systems followed suit.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It might be a part of it.
Edited to add:
Biden talking about workers and unions:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/111710379
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)what happened to Senator Sanders?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)While I supported Sanders in the 2016 primaries, I feel that he did not learn what he needed to learn from the experience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Were you surprised?
My support for Sanders is based on his economic analyses, but I have previously stated that his seeming blindness to the foundational nature of racism in the US, and how racism drives economic inequality, is a big problem for many voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Same stuff over n over, old n busted, Joe is the new hotness!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,222 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,409 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)higher than the three closest candidates combined.
Considering the numbers, that's mind boggling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,605 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,189 posts)but I didn't expect it to be so large. For me, it indicates a strong interest in having a solid, experienced, dedicated person as the nominee. I'm sure the percentages will change during the campaign, but this is solid evidence that Democrats like Joe Biden for the job.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)And Biden trounces her in the same category.
Another caveat is that being the frontrunner makes him a big target for the orange goon. There will also be attack ads paid for by the usual suspects (Americans For Plutocracy, etc.).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Liz would say no. Theres bad blood between them and Warren would feel shed more productive in the Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)animosity between them. Yikes. My bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,773 posts)Yes, I know that basically a pairing is determined by the #1 and #2 vote-getters at the convention, but sometimes it is nice to conceive pairings for the best combination rather than #1/#2 for various purposes, perhaps one being attracting the most voters in the General to trounce the Minority President. And yes, Warren might take it all -- so many good candidates I have to wait before settling on who to support first.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)since Biden has been vp before.
On edit: see other reply.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
red dog 1
(27,647 posts)A Biden-Warren ticket would have a better chance of success than a Warren-Biden ticket.
Also, I don't think Biden would even want to be a Veep candidate again.
How about a Biden-Harris ticket?...(Kamala would destroy Pence in the VP debates)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)But Biden/Warren wouldn't hurt my feeling at all.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,556 posts)If my math is correct.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
red dog 1
(27,647 posts)Which, if true, leaves even fewer than 11 percent undecided.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,235 posts)He would be a disaster on so many levels, and the sooner he's out the better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Paladin
(28,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Beto has moved up, too. Pete's up there.
But Biden has pulled far ahead of the pack in this poll.
Let's see how this holds up after the debates start.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,206 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)The lower Bernie drops in the polls the more confident I become about the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lucca18
(1,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Come on Dems, learn from Joe, the public wants someone to smash tRump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
red dog 1
(27,647 posts)K&R
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
riversedge
(69,707 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Biden has been talking about free, 4-year public college; this from Forbes
Democrat: Joe Biden: Free College
Biden has called for four free years of public college tuition in 2015, when announcing that he wasnt going to run in the 2016 campaign. Hes still talking about it, with a fairly detailed proposal he made in a speech last year. He thinks it would cost about $6 billion a year, and would increase the number of college students to 9 million. (I assume this means adding 9 million more a year, since there are already about 20 million students enrolled in higher education at any one time.) Hed pay for that through the tax code by eliminating something called the stepped-up basis loophole, which right now lets heirs evade capital gains taxes on inherited assets. I havent looked at his math, but for the moment lets take his word for it that this would produce enough cash.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(152,963 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Srkdqltr
(6,125 posts)We have a very very long time to go. Things will change. Don't do a victory dance yet. Next year at this time all will be different.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)can do is go day and day and hope we nominate the Democratic Candidate who will beat the Psycho.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden