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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Hot off the press! New Quinnipiac Poll! (Original Post) Kahuna7 Apr 2019 OP
i heard that this morning...wow!!!! samnsara Apr 2019 #1
Wow, is right! peggysue2 Apr 2019 #6
Saw another one this morning; 58% say they wont vote for trump. Thats trouble for him!! oldsoftie Apr 2019 #2
i saw that too. WOOHOO!!! onetexan Apr 2019 #28
Butti, Beto, Bernie... that sort of gave me a chuckle. We do love our nicknames. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #3
"Butti" alone - double take . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #8
Nice to see Warren climbing up donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #4
Agreed. She deserves to be considered top-tier. n/t Laelth Apr 2019 #17
Agree I really like her message gabeana Apr 2019 #37
Sanders is really losing steam. He should be way ahead, just on name recognition lunamagica Apr 2019 #5
Its the second 3rd place for Sanders in 24 hours crazytown Apr 2019 #9
We want DownriverDem Apr 2019 #29
I don't put a lot of stock in polls humbled_opinion Apr 2019 #49
Don't care about "progressive agenda" right now, I just want to beat the pants of Trump. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #55
Any of our potential nominees humbled_opinion May 2019 #66
Funny, because Sanders supporters keep saying that based on polls taken at this point the last lunamagica May 2019 #62
I think you heard that humbled_opinion May 2019 #65
So, polls were right then, but we shouldn't pay attention at how polls have Sanders imploding now lunamagica May 2019 #67
IMPLODING ? humbled_opinion May 2019 #68
K&R Tarheel_Dem Apr 2019 #7
I wonder if the college admissions scandal hurt the whole free college thing JI7 Apr 2019 #10
Why would it? karynnj Apr 2019 #22
No, college is NOT needed more than ever. Companies are hurting for skilled technical workers. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #38
Your last sentence ... aggiesal Apr 2019 #40
Thanks! I did not know the CA details karynnj Apr 2019 #44
Reagan decided to get rid of this benefit ... aggiesal Apr 2019 #53
Name recognition? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #11
If it's name recognition crazytown Apr 2019 #12
It works both ways. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #13
Wow.. thanks, guillaumeb. Cha Apr 2019 #59
You are welcome Cha. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #61
Bernie's message is old and stale, he's tanking in all the polls Baclava Apr 2019 #18
Feel the BURN!! calguy Apr 2019 #20
Joe is hot, indeed! Love him! Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #21
lol nt NYMinute Apr 2019 #23
Maybe DEMOCRATIC name recognition. nt oldsoftie Apr 2019 #39
In a field of 20 candidates Biden is higher by THREE TIMES the closest candidate, and.... George II Apr 2019 #14
Hopefully mr. Sanders will get out sooner Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #15
Wow! I knew there would be a bump after Biden announced, MineralMan Apr 2019 #16
Warren in second place Gothmog Apr 2019 #19
Incredible! Warren beats all 3 non-white candidates with non-white voters. CaptYossarian Apr 2019 #48
Biden/Warren, maybe? nt Ilsa Apr 2019 #24
I believe if Joe asked her crazytown Apr 2019 #26
Oh, wow. I didn't realize there was Ilsa Apr 2019 #32
I think Warren/Biden would be much better. Always put the woman at back of bus in mixed pairings? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #30
I just figured it's a step forward for both of them, Ilsa Apr 2019 #31
In this case, I don't think so. red dog 1 Apr 2019 #45
I still vote Biden/Beto. Laelth Apr 2019 #57
Only 11% undecided. honest.abe Apr 2019 #25
I think about 10 of the 20 candidates in the poll got less than 1 percent red dog 1 Apr 2019 #46
Honestly, I sleep so much better with each point Sanders drops. Bleacher Creature Apr 2019 #27
+1000. (nt) Paladin Apr 2019 #35
I'm so darn giddy today I can barely stand myself. nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #50
Yes indeed. honest.abe Apr 2019 #56
Hallelujah! Cha Apr 2019 #60
Whoa. Well, hello there Mr Leader and fast track Warren! Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #33
butti? lol Kurt V. Apr 2019 #34
Warren! mcar Apr 2019 #36
CRASH AND BERN! Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #41
I love this! lucca18 Apr 2019 #42
Wow, who would have thought taking it directly to tRump would be worth a 10 point bump? rufus dog Apr 2019 #43
U.S. voters support a Wealth Tax - I think that's a good thing red dog 1 Apr 2019 #47
crap. why would Democrats oppose free college?? riversedge Apr 2019 #51
Not sure where Nate Silver came up with that peggysue2 Apr 2019 #54
because people want affordable stuff, not free stuff? Skittles May 2019 #63
Folks Srkdqltr Apr 2019 #52
We know that.. all we Cha Apr 2019 #58
woo hoo! ucrdem May 2019 #64
 

samnsara

(17,569 posts)
1. i heard that this morning...wow!!!!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
6. Wow, is right!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:26 PM
Apr 2019

The polls are a-fire for Joe right now.

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oldsoftie

(12,409 posts)
2. Saw another one this morning; 58% say they wont vote for trump. Thats trouble for him!!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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onetexan

(12,992 posts)
28. i saw that too. WOOHOO!!!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:38 PM
Apr 2019
Please Joe restore this country back to normal!!
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hlthe2b

(101,698 posts)
3. Butti, Beto, Bernie... that sort of gave me a chuckle. We do love our nicknames.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. "Butti" alone - double take . . .
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:38 PM
Apr 2019

B, B, B and B - LOL

H & W, oh my.

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donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
4. Nice to see Warren climbing up
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019
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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
17. Agreed. She deserves to be considered top-tier. n/t
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:09 PM
Apr 2019

-Laelth

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gabeana

(3,166 posts)
37. Agree I really like her message
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
5. Sanders is really losing steam. He should be way ahead, just on name recognition
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:25 PM
Apr 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. Its the second 3rd place for Sanders in 24 hours
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:45 PM
Apr 2019

Although this one is a national poll. Being placed third in New Hampshire will worry him more.

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DownriverDem

(6,205 posts)
29. We want
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:42 PM
Apr 2019

a true Dem as our candidate.

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humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
49. I don't put a lot of stock in polls
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019

at this point.... Plus Bernie and others have produced a pro Progressive agenda and put it out there for better or worse. I honestly still don't know where Joe Biden is on many Progressive issues.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
55. Don't care about "progressive agenda" right now, I just want to beat the pants of Trump.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019

I will never follow any "purity test" for democrats this time around.

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humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
66. Any of our potential nominees
Wed May 1, 2019, 03:58 PM
May 2019

will clean his clock, there is no need for purity tests, whatever that means, it is all about when we vote for an agenda that is the mandate to implement that agenda if we have a nominee that will not pursue, Healthcare as a right, ending our dependence on fossil fuels, clean renewable energy, fixing the wealth inequality, and providing real social justice in this country than what is the point ?

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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
62. Funny, because Sanders supporters keep saying that based on polls taken at this point the last
Wed May 1, 2019, 12:39 AM
May 2019

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primary indicating he could have beaten trump in the GE he would have won. Oh, I wish I had a Dollar for every time I've heard that...

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humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
65. I think you heard that
Wed May 1, 2019, 03:53 PM
May 2019

because it was true. Bernie would have trounced tRUMP and still will if we are smart enough to make him the Democratic candidate.

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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
67. So, polls were right then, but we shouldn't pay attention at how polls have Sanders imploding now
Wed May 1, 2019, 04:13 PM
May 2019

Got it

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humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
68. IMPLODING ?
Thu May 2, 2019, 07:22 PM
May 2019

Look I will grant you that Biden's name recognition is getting him a leg up, but he is a gaffe machine and the numbers will realign soon enough.

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JI7

(89,172 posts)
10. I wonder if the college admissions scandal hurt the whole free college thing
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:55 PM
Apr 2019
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karynnj

(59,474 posts)
22. Why would it?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:20 PM
Apr 2019

It is almost the opposite. Very rich parents buying admission by bribes in addition to having the money to pay legitimate expenses. Most of the free college proposals are limited to instate at state schools.

This actually happened in some cities or states in the past. In NYC, CUNY was once free or relatively inexpensive. Some of its colleges were very highly rated and it served as a path to the middle and even upper class for many bright, but not wealthy, students. In CA, there was an enviable free or near free university system until Reagan.

But, it was not just liberal coastal states. In the late 1960s, the tuition for an instate student at IU Bloomington was $195 a YEAR for as many credit hours as you chose to take ... And I didn't even pay that because I had a Hoosier scholarship that was designed to be the full tuition at IU for the 4 years I was there.

Now, even more than then, college is needed. Just as there is available free public school for K through 12, it is in our country's interest to have public college available to qualified students whose families can not afford it. ( I would think it fair if their were a sliding scale so families would pay as their income or assets increase.) By qualified, schools could define the level of competence needed to have a reasonable chance to succeed. For those who fail that, it might be beneficial to support remedial education outside college.

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oldsoftie

(12,409 posts)
38. No, college is NOT needed more than ever. Companies are hurting for skilled technical workers.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019

And those jobs pay a good salary with benefits. This myth of needing college to be successful is what makes it so damn expensive. University systems raise tuition and other costs almost at will and its ridiculous. its a massive rip off. Not to mention graduating many people with degrees that wont get them into anyones front door.
The most successful people i know never graduated college. And all of them are worth over a million.

https://www.marketplace.org/2018/02/07/business/no-degree-required-more-tech-employers-looking-skills-rather-diploma

https://hechingerreport.org/high-paying-jobs-go-begging-while-high-school-grads-line-up-for-bachelors-degrees/

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aggiesal

(8,863 posts)
40. Your last sentence ...
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:45 PM
Apr 2019
For those who fail that, it might be beneficial to support remedial education outside college.

In California prior to Reagan (as you mentioned), it was free college to any state run school.
This included all UC schools, Cal-State schools and ALL JC's.
You were not guaranteed to get into the top UC or Cal-State schools, but if you got in
your tuition was free. Room & Board + books were not included, but tuition was still considered
the majority of the costs.
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karynnj

(59,474 posts)
44. Thanks! I did not know the CA details
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:02 PM
Apr 2019

No one should have the right to get into the top schools. It would be great if all states had those long ago CA choices.

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aggiesal

(8,863 posts)
53. Reagan decided to get rid of this benefit ...
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:59 PM
Apr 2019

University of California system was created in 1868 with the decree that “admission and tuition shall be free to all residents of the state,” and the California State and community-college systems followed suit.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Name recognition?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:56 PM
Apr 2019

It might be a part of it.

Edited to add:
Biden talking about workers and unions:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/111710379

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. If it's name recognition
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:58 PM
Apr 2019

what happened to Senator Sanders?

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
13. It works both ways.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:02 PM
Apr 2019

While I supported Sanders in the 2016 primaries, I feel that he did not learn what he needed to learn from the experience.

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Cha

(295,899 posts)
59. Wow.. thanks, guillaumeb.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
61. You are welcome Cha.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:42 PM
Apr 2019

Were you surprised?

My support for Sanders is based on his economic analyses, but I have previously stated that his seeming blindness to the foundational nature of racism in the US, and how racism drives economic inequality, is a big problem for many voters.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
18. Bernie's message is old and stale, he's tanking in all the polls
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:11 PM
Apr 2019

Same stuff over n over, old n busted, Joe is the new hotness!

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
21. Joe is hot, indeed! Love him!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019
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oldsoftie

(12,409 posts)
39. Maybe DEMOCRATIC name recognition. nt
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. In a field of 20 candidates Biden is higher by THREE TIMES the closest candidate, and....
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:03 PM
Apr 2019

higher than the three closest candidates combined.

Considering the numbers, that's mind boggling.

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Thekaspervote

(32,605 posts)
15. Hopefully mr. Sanders will get out sooner
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019
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MineralMan

(146,189 posts)
16. Wow! I knew there would be a bump after Biden announced,
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:06 PM
Apr 2019

but I didn't expect it to be so large. For me, it indicates a strong interest in having a solid, experienced, dedicated person as the nominee. I'm sure the percentages will change during the campaign, but this is solid evidence that Democrats like Joe Biden for the job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
48. Incredible! Warren beats all 3 non-white candidates with non-white voters.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:14 PM
Apr 2019

And Biden trounces her in the same category.


Another caveat is that being the frontrunner makes him a big target for the orange goon. There will also be attack ads paid for by the usual suspects (Americans For Plutocracy, etc.).

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Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
24. Biden/Warren, maybe? nt
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
26. I believe if Joe asked her
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:32 PM
Apr 2019

Liz would say no. There’s bad blood between them and Warren would feel she’d more productive in the Senate.

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Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
32. Oh, wow. I didn't realize there was
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:50 PM
Apr 2019

animosity between them. Yikes. My bad.

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Bernardo de La Paz

(48,773 posts)
30. I think Warren/Biden would be much better. Always put the woman at back of bus in mixed pairings?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

Yes, I know that basically a pairing is determined by the #1 and #2 vote-getters at the convention, but sometimes it is nice to conceive pairings for the best combination rather than #1/#2 for various purposes, perhaps one being attracting the most voters in the General to trounce the Minority President. And yes, Warren might take it all -- so many good candidates I have to wait before settling on who to support first.

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Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
31. I just figured it's a step forward for both of them,
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

since Biden has been vp before.

On edit: see other reply.

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red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
45. In this case, I don't think so.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:05 PM
Apr 2019

A Biden-Warren ticket would have a better chance of success than a Warren-Biden ticket.

Also, I don't think Biden would even want to be a Veep candidate again.

How about a Biden-Harris ticket?...(Kamala would destroy Pence in the VP debates)

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
57. I still vote Biden/Beto.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:26 PM
Apr 2019

But Biden/Warren wouldn't hurt my feeling at all.

-Laelth

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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
25. Only 11% undecided.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Apr 2019

If my math is correct.

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red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
46. I think about 10 of the 20 candidates in the poll got less than 1 percent
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:10 PM
Apr 2019

Which, if true, leaves even fewer than 11 percent undecided.

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Bleacher Creature

(11,235 posts)
27. Honestly, I sleep so much better with each point Sanders drops.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:37 PM
Apr 2019

He would be a disaster on so many levels, and the sooner he's out the better.

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
50. I'm so darn giddy today I can barely stand myself. nt
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:17 PM
Apr 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. Whoa. Well, hello there Mr Leader and fast track Warren!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019

Beto has moved up, too. Pete's up there.

But Biden has pulled far ahead of the pack in this poll.

Let's see how this holds up after the debates start.

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Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
41. CRASH AND BERN!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:49 PM
Apr 2019

The lower Bernie drops in the polls the more confident I become about the general election.

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rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
43. Wow, who would have thought taking it directly to tRump would be worth a 10 point bump?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:00 PM
Apr 2019

Come on Dems, learn from Joe, the public wants someone to smash tRump

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red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
47. U.S. voters support a Wealth Tax - I think that's a good thing
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:13 PM
Apr 2019

K&R

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riversedge

(69,707 posts)
51. crap. why would Democrats oppose free college??
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:19 PM
Apr 2019
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peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
54. Not sure where Nate Silver came up with that
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:24 PM
Apr 2019

Biden has been talking about free, 4-year public college; this from Forbes

Democrat: Joe Biden: Free College

Biden has called for four free years of public college tuition in 2015, when announcing that he wasn’t going to run in the 2016 campaign. He’s still talking about it, with a fairly detailed proposal he made in a speech last year. He thinks it would cost about $6 billion a year, and would increase the number of college students to 9 million. (I assume this means adding 9 million more a year, since there are already about 20 million students enrolled in higher education at any one time.) He’d pay for that through the tax code by eliminating something called the “stepped-up basis loophole,” which right now lets heirs evade capital gains taxes on inherited assets. I haven’t looked at his math, but for the moment let’s take his word for it that this would produce enough cash.

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Skittles

(152,963 posts)
63. because people want affordable stuff, not free stuff?
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:35 AM
May 2019
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Srkdqltr

(6,125 posts)
52. Folks
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:24 PM
Apr 2019

We have a very very long time to go. Things will change. Don't do a victory dance yet. Next year at this time all will be different.

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Cha

(295,899 posts)
58. We know that.. all we
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:29 PM
Apr 2019

can do is go day and day and hope we nominate the Democratic Candidate who will beat the Psycho.

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