Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHere we go. On Face the Nation this morning,
the panel discussed Netroots Nation, Sanders, O'Malley and Hillary and why saying "All lives matter" (which Bernie did not say) is not okay. As host Dickerson was winding up to go to break, John Heilemann interrupted him, saying, "Wait. This is very important. This is why Sanders will not be the nominee and Hillary will. Sander does not have the support of minorites and immigrants and Hillary does." This is from memory and a few words might be off, but not the thrust.
John Heilemann, on of the authors of Game Change, which discussed the 2008 primary, among other things, found it necessary to interrupt the host at the last second to make sure he said Hillary was going to be the nominee? Is this reporting the news or trying to make the news be as you wish it to be? Is it at least fair journalistic dommentary? No. It could not have been lighter in analysis or a more obvious, even rude, attempt to make sure the last word of the segment was that Hillary was going to be the Democratic Presidential nominee, the same thing people like him have been telling us for three years.
In a fair campaign, six months out is too early to make that kind of flat out prediction in good faith, let alone over three years. It's not journalism. It's not even crystal ball reading. It's a concerted attempt to direct the outcome of the primary.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Put that out often enough and people will believe it. And worse, they'll say, why bother even trying?
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)We all knew this would happen and it's beginning. All Bernie has is us, with our massive social media to help him get the word out. No one in the beltway establishment WANTS Bernie as president because he'll shake things up for the capitalist overlords.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)As scared as they are of Hillary, they are terrified of a Sanders presidency.
This is the best part of Bernie's candidacy...as long as he's in the race, Hillary must stay left. If Sanders makes it to the end of primary season, and he will, Hillary must run left in the general election.
We win whether Sanders wins or not.
Thank you, Bernie!
Eta...I would gladly march behind either Hillary or Bernie as the Democratic candidate!
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.
Then Bernie will win
tech3149
(4,452 posts)I don't think for a minute that he didn't consider being sidelined and dismissed not just by the media but the party infrastructure and the pundit class.
The decision to run within the party structure was the only one in the political environment even considering the apparent risks.
Remember how long he talked about considering a run?
All that time wasn't just spent thinking and reflecting. That was the time he was trying to find out if we were really willing to put it on the line for someone who shared and supported our interests.
This isn't about him but we damned sure better make sure he is the tip of the spear.
Support for Sanders should be nothing more than the beginning of a movement.
We should all recognize the forces we will have to overcome. The money, media, and lazy thinking public are truly formidable problems to deal with, but we can do it!
Bypass the media, become the media. If you hang out here at DU you've probably got million stories you could tell your neighbors about how they are being screwed and dis-informed by corporate media. Don't just sell it, share it!
Print up flyers, a newsletter, print news link business cards and get them out there. Put them anywhere you can because you never know who is on the edge of giving the system a kick in the ass.
I have to lead an isolated life but one of my contributions is to rebroadcast informative radio shows on a small FM transmitter. It might only cover a mile or so but it puts the voice out there.
Support the revolution any way you can but at this point, we have no choice.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Find it interesting that more people do not see how the M$M is orchestrating all and every News Talk and Round Table discussion on the Cable or Networks. The only one who seems to challenge these Washington Insiders is,Bernie Sanders. Typical Ambush Journalism,notice how it works,thirty seconds to cut and it produces twenty four hours of tape rewinds to beat some one over the head with. The public seems to only have the attention span of a Gnat.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)with Mark Thompson. He is relentless, and he tries to come off as neutral. Even Thompson buys into it most of the time.
merrily
(45,251 posts)A pervasive pattern is no accident.
Ever see the Daily Show air a video mashup of about ten different talking heads, talking about the same thing and using identical words? No accident.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)Better to be kept poor, ignorant and docile while those who know 'better than us' make policies that continue taking what we have and giving it to the top 1/10 of 1%.
But we KNOW, and once you know, you can never go back.
Bernie's in it, and with our help he can win it.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Money doesn't just flow to candidates and campaigns, but that same money then flows from candidates and campaigns as well.
I was reading somewhere about AIPAC's intensified lobbying against the recent nuclear deal between p5+1/Iran, and one thing I noticed because I'd been wondering about the subject in general is that AIPAC was putting out millions of dollars directly to "journalists" to do research and put out a story. The wink-wink about it, of course, is that along with the money comes the "research" materials and story-line. That's money going to hundreds of journalists - editorial writers, TV pundits, and so on. The people informing us about what's what on "the most trusted newscast in America" etc. I'd always suspected that kind of thing to be going on, in fact driving most of the MSM messaging on all topics, but it isn't something I wanted to speculate on openly because I'd rather not be accused of "CT" and "tinfoil" etc. -- but there in this story it was written as being common fact.
So likewise in primary and GE campaigns, no doubt. After all, where else would all those $billions (wow, think about it - the temptation is enormous!) go? Some to TV/radio/newspaper/blog ads, of course. But a lot also directly to "journalists" and "pundits" and "experts", to do exactly what you've described. No doubt all of them are driving flash cars, living in luxury condos, filling their RRSP's, on an absolute flood of money. Well, it used to be a flood of money, now it's a tsunami.
With that much money flooding the MSM *and* internet, I don't trust much, and it's hard for me to imagine that there isn't a flood of money also being pumped into Dem/liberal online sites of all kinds (including Kos, this site, and others esp. where large money is already a factor). So my ears are perked to anomalies,
Funny I should read your post right after I posted Reply 9.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128029882#post9
I didn't know about the billions, but I do know that federal agencies and others send out videotaped "news" segments to broadcast outlets who then air it without disclosing the source. That came out during the Bush administration. Then, during the Obama administration, Congress passes a law saying the federal government has authority to propagandize Americans. Geez, what have they been doing all along? And what more did they want to do that they thought required a new law?
Sent a shiver, it did. Instead, the law should have required news outlets to state when they or their own network did not prepare a new story they are presenting.
Speaking of CT and tinfoil, do you notice whom those accusations benefit? Yet, from history, we know that it's as plain as the nose on anyone's face that you can't assume you've been told everything, nor can you take everything you've been told at face value.
merrily
(45,251 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)All your vote are belong to Hillary.
merrily
(45,251 posts)You made me LOL at a post for the first time today I was certainly due!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to @#$%in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
merrily
(45,251 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)2 yys u r,
2 yys u b
I c u r
2 yys 4 me.
(written to my sister by her classmate, upon their elementary school graduation)
TBF
(32,114 posts)that is why we have to do this ourselves. Promote, promote, promote.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't have a lot of hope about promoting on DU. But IRL and in other places online, yes.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)"Chuckie T"...couldn't wait to show Bernie being confronted by "BLM" at the Netroots Nation Campaign Forum.
BUT...Bernie talked on and on expressing why he was running and "Chuckie's" Producer never got a chance to show that clip. It was obvious "Chuckie T" didn't know how to deal with a Politician who Speaks the Truth and is not Distracted by the idiocy of any of the MSM's "Hosts" who want to ensnare and trap any Dem Guests.
Bernie did GREAT. I'm sure that didn't go unnoticed by the "Meet the Press Audience" and their Repub Followers.
DON'T MESS WITH BERNIE! He knows "THE GAME" better than the rest of the MSM...TOADIES for CORPORATE INTERESTS.
It was a Fantastic Watch!
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)It was outstanding.
merrily
(45,251 posts)OUTSTANDING
PatrickforO
(14,600 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)darling. They are in denial
merrily
(45,251 posts)When it comes to her vs. Republicans, maybe not.
You have to remember too, that a tactic of both Clintons has been to say again and again that Republicans and/or the media are being unfair to them.
So, when a new story comes out, the reaction/talking point from their admirers is, oh, there goes that unfairness again.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)neoliberalism, and a strong dose of selectivity and delay when it comes to social issues
she clearly can't be, you see, because they don't want her to be: airtight logic
the more Americans see how the deck is always being stacked, the less they'll like it, and the less they can be made to forget or go attention-blind to it, to just get ACCUSTOMED to it
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merrily
(45,251 posts)False advertising on TV about a toothpaste does violate the law though. After all, we do have our priorities!
I agree with your commentary about the TV paradigm.
azmom
(5,208 posts)But it will be tweeted.
Go Bernie Go
TBF
(32,114 posts)to Twitter even if they don't tweet often. And that is who you need to affect change.
azmom
(5,208 posts)With the revolution.
Latinos for Bernie!
TBF
(32,114 posts)Here in Texas many Latinos I've met want Hillary At least they did in 2008 when we were campaigning - I was a co-precinct chair. Hillary won our area and ultimately Texas. But maybe it will be different this time.
Of course in Texas my goal is just to see folks registered to vote at this point. Demographics are still holding us down but we're getting closer as the dinosaurs age.
merrily
(45,251 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Solidarity
merrily
(45,251 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Meaning of the word is the following: unity or agreement of feeling or action, especially among individuals with a common interest; mutual support within a group.
I stand in solidarity with Bernie and all those that are being hurt by a rigged system. A rigged system that is failing to address the needs of ordinary Americans. We must stand together and demand change. Real change.
Latinos for Bernie
merrily
(45,251 posts)I stand in solidarity with Bernie and all those that are being hurt by a rigged system.
Most of us are being hurt to one degree or another by a rigged system, but some much more than others.
I cannot say I am among the most hurt, but I can say that I am in solidarity.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)you know ...that tv video of him ...gets real good around 18 minutes in. LMAO
merrily
(45,251 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It isn't. I am boycotting NBC anyway. They suck.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Same talking points, all of them.