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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:16 AM Jul 2015

Why the ongoing Sanders movement will not turn out like OFA

The Obama years have definitely been a mixed bag, but to me one of the biggest disappointments was the complete dissolution of Organizing for America. Hundreds of thousands of potential activists just melted back into the woodwork.

The local group did some work advocating for ACA, but I stopped when I told them I would only doorbell and phonebank to campaign for it as a step on the way to state single payer (ACA still has that provision). They said I couldn't do that, so I quit going.

I went back in 2010 in response to an invitation to work on electing Democrats to Congress. The first meeting featured a young woman who gave a slide show including the famous "bikini graph" demonstrating job recovery. I had a bad feeling about that, and pointed out that in 2008 Obama campaigned on values, and that my neighbors didn't care about charts and graphs--they cared about how their economic lives were going. Which was then and still is shitty for way too many.

She also advised campaigning on ACA, which I thought was pointless, since the people benefiting right away were so small in number. Certainly it was a major boon to people with serious illnesses who had lifetime caps removed and to people under 26 whose parents actually had insurance policies where they could be included, but most people would continue to see nothing until the exchanges were established and Medicaid expanded.

I felt that OFA was asking me to campaign on pie in the sky, and didn't go back. Being on Social Security, I put much more time into fighting the Catfood Commission's chained CPI than I did in campaigning for Democrats.The state OFA organization essentially dissolved after that.

With Sanders, win or lose, this time it is going to be different. The people involved have a far clearer notion of what we are up against, and are resolved to keep on fighting no matter what. I really can't see any of them being diverted by weak tea proposals.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
1. I too sense something's different this time around. There's just something about Bernie. He's not gonna quit fighting; neither are we.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:13 AM
Jul 2015
 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
7. Let's face it Obama had a thin resume
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jul 2015

After 8 years of Bush people were taken in...they so WANTED to believe the rhetoric.

Sanders has an entire history to back up what he says - it's his ethos.

People may not like what I'm saying - but I think O'Malley's resume is also too thin. Yes he has nice sounding words but after Obama I just don't trust politicians unless they have a very strong track record. I don't think O'Malley did Baltimore any favors as governor or as Mayor. It's so easy for politicians to come along and craft a game plan for their political platform....say the right things, go to the right events, hire a few aids who will craft some programs and make up some fancy speeches. It's all in the science of public relations...

I just have this feeling and have seen the evidence (which is there) about Sanders that he is NOT a 'pr job'.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
8. I certainly think MO'M is qualified, it's just that Bernie embodies everything I like in a candidate. To say he's the real deal is an understatement.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:17 PM
Jul 2015

Go Bernie Go!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. There does seem to be something afoot
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:35 AM
Jul 2015

There's one dark horse that has the fans watching closely from the stands, excited about the race. As for the favorite? meh.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
5. Yeah, when OFA basically dissolved, I thought, "How dumb!"
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

It took me a while to realize that it was allowed to die because it wasn't wanted. (Yeah, I can be a bit slow sometimes.)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. it's not about Sanders, it's about what problems he points out for everyone to remember
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

and what he'll push for

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
9. It's sounds cliche, but Bernie really does say what he means and mean what he says - unlike so many politicians today. Go Bernie!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jul 2015
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