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onecaliberal

(32,813 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:46 PM Apr 2016

Joe Conasen and David Cay Johnson are smearing Bernie about the taxes.

The both attacked Thom Hartmann after he asked David Cay to correct a misstatement at best. Her people are vernomous and will lie about anything they can pull from their collective ass.

Edit: David cay blocked Thom on Twitter so no one could find out his article was a lie.

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Joe Conasen and David Cay Johnson are smearing Bernie about the taxes. (Original Post) onecaliberal Apr 2016 OP
swiftboating. grasswire Apr 2016 #1
joe sucks SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #2
Interesting since Bernie's recent salary income is 200K (not Mitt!), HC 228 Mill appalachiablue Apr 2016 #3
Its a decent income but not a really large one. Baobab Apr 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Baobab Apr 2016 #13
Such a non-issue. Ridiculous. jillan Apr 2016 #4
I read some of the Twitter feed. I have to say, I was completely shocked onecaliberal Apr 2016 #6
Sad. This is the best they (HRC Camp) have got. dchill Apr 2016 #5
I let this go in one ear and out the other Duckfan Apr 2016 #7
That will be a great day. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #8
Johnston here -- this post is nonsense davidcay Apr 2016 #9
P.S.to earlier post on falsehoods davidcay Apr 2016 #10
You did block him, he said you did. I encourage everyone to read what you wrote. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #11

appalachiablue

(41,116 posts)
3. Interesting since Bernie's recent salary income is 200K (not Mitt!), HC 228 Mill
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

according to info. on Thom's show. Another worthless & irrelevant attempt to smear. Disappointed in David Cay Johnston.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
12. Its a decent income but not a really large one.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

if he did not live in Vermont, it likely would be hard to live well on that income in a major urban area, considering that they also need a condo in Washington for Bernie and Jane to live in when he's there. that would be a huge drain on their finances. So all in all, nobody is getting rich here off of Bernie's income.

Honestly, its just outrageous that Hillary Clinton doesnt see that these speaking fees are seen as bribes by so many of us. How could they not be?

Response to appalachiablue (Reply #3)

onecaliberal

(32,813 posts)
6. I read some of the Twitter feed. I have to say, I was completely shocked
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

I reminded me of the things they said about Romney. Just, wow.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
7. I let this go in one ear and out the other
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

Though it pisses me off in a way that these people who support her apparently lack common sense, it drives me to work harder. Spring break ended for students here and I will pick up where I left off registering students to vote.

Or you can think of it this way. There are several million others who are as pissed as you and me are. They are also working hard to change this status quo BS and move to something different for a better future. Then these status quo freaks will be gone. That is a day we can all look forward to.

davidcay

(22 posts)
9. Johnston here -- this post is nonsense
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:49 AM
Apr 2016

First, I did not block anyone -- and I never have. That is a fabrication by onecaliberal.

Second, there is no error in my piece. However if anyone here can show one it will be corrected promptly and forthrightly. My email is davidcayjohnston@me.com. BTW, onecaliberal managed to mangle two names, suggesting a lack of care about facts. Its Conason and Johnston.

Third, nobody tells me what to write. I tell editors what I have and they take or pass.

Fourth, I don't support or oppose any candidate, but I do hold them to their own standards and to uniform standards, as this column shows and so does every clip from my nearly 50 years of work.

Funny how one here seems to have noticed my 2-page spread in the Sunday New York Daily News which establishes what nonsense is in this thread. That piece shows that most Republicans support Bernie's economic policies, they just don't know it. http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/david-cay-johnston-agree-bernie-sanders-article-1.2521997

So, onecaliberal don't ever again make stuff up -- and forthrightly correct your falsehood, please.

To those who responded -- without making any independent check of the facts or evidently even reading my column -- don't mimic Donald Trump by assuming what is posted on the Internet is true.

I don't know what Hartman said on the air, but I do know he did NOT invite me on as his guest and so whatever he said was one-sided. Again, if anyone can show an actual error in my column it will be corrected.

The issues here are carefully explained in my column include Bernie not walking his talk on transparency. That is what journalists are supposed to do -- hold politicians accountable.

My column is here: http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-hasnt-bernie-sanders-released-his-tax-returns/

Bernie was around in 1973-75 so he knows the reasons this matters. Bernie knew he would be asked for his tax returns and he was starting at least last June (NPR and WashPost); his top spokesman sent me a false statement and since then has ignored my repeated inquiries, always a troubling indicator of future conduct. Bernie saying he released his 2014 return when he did not should trouble everyone. So should his failure to issue complete returns since at least 2007 and his excuse for not doing so. Just substitute for Sanders the name of a candidate you don't like and then ponder these matters.

Bernie knows that a Form 1040 is no more a tax return than the Preamble is our Constitution, as my column notes. If there is nothing there was has Bernie been hiding the full tax return despite many requests?

This goes to his judgment. It also puts him in the same territory as Cruz, Kasich and others and helps the future Dick Cheneys, Mitt Romneys and Trump's who want to wield power but also want to hide their tax returns. This is about good governance and shows, yet again, that I hold politicians to uniform standards regardless of party or anything else.

Of course if you would like to increase the risk of another felon as vice president and an un-indicted tax criminal conspirator in the Oval Office (whose tax guy plead guilty) then such issues of sound governance and accountability to the people don't matter.

davidcay

(22 posts)
10. P.S.to earlier post on falsehoods
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:33 AM
Apr 2016

I have now seen that Hartman did indeed falsely accuse me. I never blocked him anywhere. I don't even know how to do that.

My full reply to Thom's video commentary is at http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-hasnt-bernie-sanders-released-his-tax-returns/

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