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Shermann

(7,458 posts)
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 12:31 PM Oct 2023

Doctor Sleep (spoilers)

I'm continuing my October series of movie reviews of non-recent horror movies which everybody has either already seen or has no interest in seeing.

Doctor Sleep threads the needle of being a sequel to both the book and the movie which have little in common with one another. In that regard, it does quite well. Stephen King movies often feature B-list actors and suffer for it. Ewan McGregor, however, is an A-lister and excellent as Danny Torrance (this is set decades after the events in the Overlook Hotel).

Danny and his mother appear in flashbacks set during the Overlook Hotel timeframe that are really well done.

The pen-pal scenes and the buildup are very Stephen King-like. This aspect was lacking in the original film, although it was a phenomenal example of Kubrick's imagination. The "shine vampires" feature some differences from the novel. They aren't quite as inhuman and don't live as long. They also don't really seem to have much in the way of superpowers, so it is questionable why anybody would want to join the Knot. That said, Rose the Hat is excellent.

The film ends at the Overlook Hotel, now run down. There is a dramatic scene between Danny and his father's spirit in the Gold Room. His father now identifies as Delbert Grady the bartender, mixing up three identities in a nod to the original. I was full of anticipation waiting for him to break character back to Jack, similarly to how Delbert Grady did. There was so much suspense. Would Jack take an interest in his wife and son's lives? Would he be remorseful? Would he try to help him in his situation? Would he be in need of help himself being trapped in the Overlook? Would there be redemption? Would he remain insane?

Unfortunately, all we got was him being kind of a dick trying to sabotage Danny's sobriety as the scene quickly ends. What a wasted opportunity. Oh well.

There are flashbacks from the original movie using the original footage. Why not reshoot all those scenes?

So, the ghouls from the original film made a big cameo and saved the day. There was some retconning going on as they exhibited some shine vampire steam-sucking behavior, which doesn't really make sense. But that's ok because everything gets wrapped up in a big bow.

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Doctor Sleep (spoilers) (Original Post) Shermann Oct 2023 OP
"Doctor Sleep" the book is so much better than the movie Docreed2003 Oct 2023 #1
I should add I did read the book when it came out Shermann Oct 2023 #2
Loved the book, Bayard Oct 2023 #3
Now you've piqued my interest in reading Dr. Sleep FakeNoose Nov 2023 #4

Docreed2003

(16,887 posts)
1. "Doctor Sleep" the book is so much better than the movie
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 12:46 PM
Oct 2023

I have to approach the movie adaptation much like I approach "The Shinning" as being a totally separate work. I also didn't like the way the movie drastically changes the ending with Danny

Shermann

(7,458 posts)
2. I should add I did read the book when it came out
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 12:56 PM
Oct 2023

These Stephen King screen adaptations are a mixed bag, this is about as good as it gets. Many are based on novellas, as so much has to be pared down from a full novel.

I just can't get over the Gold Room scene disappointment, but I don't recall how it transpired in the book to be honest.

The Lloyd scene in the original was so iconic and significant. You are seeing the moment where Jack snaps in a way that can't be achieved in a book. This is not that.

Bayard

(22,184 posts)
3. Loved the book,
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 01:04 PM
Oct 2023

And liked the movie. The, "shine vampires" were an interesting twist, especially Rose.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
4. Now you've piqued my interest in reading Dr. Sleep
Fri Nov 3, 2023, 08:44 PM
Nov 2023

I fell out of love with Stephen King several years ago for reasons I won't get into, but lately I've started reading him again. I can remember being transported by "The Shining" over 30 years ago when I first read it. Then the movie was sort of a disappointment, and King's books after that tended to get butchered by movie directors. Then I dropped King altogether probably in the late 1990's.

So I'm really behind and I'll probably never catch up, BUT the Dr. Sleep story interests me. It continues "The Shining" story and takes grown-up Danny in a new direction with the Overlook as a great setting. I'll be sure to avoid the movie of Dr. Sleep until after I've read the book however.

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