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rug

(82,333 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 07:33 AM Jun 2013

How Greek Philosophy Influenced Both Christian and Jewish Theology

A Common Link Between Christianity and Kabbalah



Powers of 10: For Jewish and Hellenistic philosophers, 10 is a very spiritual number.

By Philologos
Published June 02, 2013, issue of June 07, 2013.

My fellow columnist at the Forward, the estimable J.J. Goldberg, has written a blog post about my May 19 column, “Could the Holy Ghost be Jewish?” In his blog, he respectfully takes exception to my statement that “neither biblical nor rabbinic Judaism has anything like the Christian Trinity in its thinking about God,” and goes on to say:

“Actually, rabbinic Judaism has something very much like the Trinity in its thinking about God. It’s called the Sefirot, the Kabbalah’s 10 Emanations or Manifestations of God’s presence. And no, it wasn’t a Jewish concept that found its way into Christianity. On the contrary, it’s a Christian idea that found its way into the heart of normative Judaism.”

With equal respect, I beg to differ, starting with the assertion that Kabbalah represents “the heart of normative Judaism.” Despite Kabbalah’s enormous impact on Judaism, various rabbinical circles always opposed granting it normative status, which it never unequivocally attained and which it was denied in modern times more than ever.

This is perhaps a quibble. More to the point is the fact that both Kabbalah and Christian theology were greatly influenced, though not always in the same ways, by another body of thought that Goldberg fails to mention: The Hellenistic philosophical schools of the early centuries of the Common Era, and particularly, the two related currents of neo-Platonism and neo-Pythagoreanism.

http://forward.com/articles/177588/how-greek-philosophy-influenced-both-christian-and/

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How Greek Philosophy Influenced Both Christian and Jewish Theology (Original Post) rug Jun 2013 OP
I've been meaning to read this, sorry for the late reply ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #1
Good question but I don't know. rug Jun 2013 #2
Oh lord I'm seeing speculation in everything from ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #3
Lol, that's why I kept a comic book in my math book in high school. rug Jun 2013 #4
Heh ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #5
The influence of the Kabbalah on Christianity is negligible Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2013 #6

ismnotwasm

(41,999 posts)
1. I've been meaning to read this, sorry for the late reply
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013

Is there any evidence that this is how we developed a base 10 mathematical system?

(I know I can google, but I like hearing from smart people)

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. Good question but I don't know.
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jun 2013

If you find anything please post it. I did a quick search but didn't find anything.

ismnotwasm

(41,999 posts)
3. Oh lord I'm seeing speculation in everything from
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jun 2013

Origins in China, Babylonians, Ancient Romans because that's what they used and they conquered everybody, to the fact we have 10 fingers and ten toes.

This is WAY worse when I couldn't figure out why a negative times a negative equals a positive.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
6. The influence of the Kabbalah on Christianity is negligible
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:11 AM
Jul 2013

However, the influence of Greek philosophy on Christian theology is vast. Augustine of Hippo's thought, for example, was thoroughly grounded in neo-Platonism. Thomas Aquinas cites Aristotle more than any other writer. (The Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation comes straight out of Aristotle's Physics.)

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